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07:36.20morsingsabinef72!
07:38.48j0nrmorning gllug
07:39.00Armandmorsing j0nr!
07:39.26j0nr:|
07:39.37Armandlol
07:39.40Armandsorry.. :P
07:39.48Armandit's too early.
07:40.01Armand* morning j0nr! ^_^
07:40.12j0nrheh, morning Armand
07:40.30Armanddoesn't like being woken up at 6am.. ¬_¬
07:40.57Armand*YAWN* brb..
07:43.01morsingj0nr!
07:43.11j0nrgets up at 6am every day
07:43.18j0nrmorsing!
07:44.35Armandhates mornings..
07:49.54morsingMorning++
07:49.57morsingMornings++
07:50.37morsingj0nr: What did you have for breakfast?
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08:01.45morsingArmand!
08:01.56ArmandMeow
08:06.16morsingArmand: Where's my SIM card?
08:06.23ArmandUp your bum?
08:06.45morsing(sigh*
08:06.57Armand^_^
08:07.15Armand"Ask a stupid question.... "
08:12.01Leedswww.sarojin.com
08:13.28ArmandNice..
08:14.15Leedsmy boss is a (private) shareholder... gets a number of free nights per year... hasn't used them this year... is passing a few on to me...
08:14.16Leeds:D
08:14.29LeedsIOW, 4 nights there on the house
08:14.53ArmandO_O
08:14.55Armandhttp://www.sofitel.com/gb/hotel-6214-sofitel-london-heathrow/index.shtml
08:15.01ArmandThat's where my missus works. :)
08:18.45Leedswhen my firefox has reloaded all its tabs after the daily crash, I'll have a look
08:18.51Armandlol
08:18.56Armandthat sucks.
08:19.47Leedsdoesn't happen at home - except when the gf is uploading photos to facebook, but we're using an external upload tool now - but happens most days at work
08:20.26Armandstrange
08:20.51ArmandI'm getting used to my PC being shit.. it locks up occasionally.
08:21.30Leedsthe office PC has been up for months... the home one gets turned off nightly
08:22.58Leedsanyway, looks like a nice enough place, for an airport hotel - but I'd prefer a Thai beach :)
08:23.15ArmandYeah. :D
08:24.20LeedsI was a bit surprised - pleasantly, of course - when he offered it last week... he'd mentioned the place before, but said he couldn't get freebies or discounts
08:25.01Leedsand when I started trying to book a three-day weekend, to fit in with my gf's work, he told me to take longer and have her come meet me - when your boss tells you to take a longer long weekend on him, it's a good idea to accept :)
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08:25.38ArmandO_O
08:27.22morsingzeroXten!
08:28.08zeroXtenheh
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08:32.31Armand¬_¬
08:58.53morsingArmand: Where's bilarh?
08:59.08halimorning
08:59.55morsinghali!
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09:00.43morsingChoHag!
09:00.59morsingAnyone here know about buy-to-let mortgages?
09:01.17cpufreakin which context?
09:01.54morsingcpufreak: Buying to let
09:02.05morsingNo, actually, letting out my existing house
09:02.09cpufreakah.
09:02.12cpufreakif you already own it
09:02.13cpufreakits different
09:02.15morsingOk
09:02.22morsingThat's what I thought
09:02.33morsingSo I don't need to convert?
09:02.37cpufreakbuy-to-let mortages is when some cunt buys a place with the explicit purpose of renting it out
09:02.45morsingOk
09:02.59morsingDoes it matter how long I want to rent it out for?
09:03.11cpufreakif you want to rent out a place which you bought previously, just phone up the mortgage provider and ifnorm them of the change of use, they'll send out some forms, and put the price up by 10% or so, and then its all kosher
09:03.15cpufreakat least thats how it was for me.
09:03.23morsingOk
09:03.28cpufreakno need to change the actual mortgage, just an addendum
09:03.32morsingOk
09:03.36morsingWankers :)
09:03.52morsing%10...
09:04.03morsingThat's an extra £8/mth
09:04.21cpufreakyour mortage is 80quid/month?
09:04.29morsing86
09:04.33LeedsI never got around to telling my bank...
09:04.53antiphaseYour insurance provider might like to know as well
09:04.54cpufreak86/month? why not just pay it off then
09:04.57morsingLeeds: Read the message you get when you log in to #gllug carefully ;)
09:05.05antiphasein case some bugger burns it down and they refuse to pay up
09:05.06morsingcpufreak: ?! Pay what off?
09:05.14cpufreakthe mortgage
09:05.16Leedsantiphase: I've got landlord's insurance
09:05.16cpufreakif its only 86/month
09:05.24morsingcpufreak: I don't have £151000
09:05.35antiphaseIt is a 100 year mortgage?
09:05.37Leedsinterest-only?
09:05.42bilarhseriously, you should tell them
09:05.45morsing-> cawfy run
09:05.53bilarhnot telling them is probably insurance fraud
09:06.11cpufreakoh, if its interest only maybe.
09:06.15Leedsyeah, I probably should
09:06.30cpufreakisn't that just a sure fire way to negative equity though?
09:06.47cpufreakmortgage is 850/month or so
09:07.06antiphaseIt's a surefire way to end up not owning a house after 25 years if you don't have other investments
09:07.10Leedsaren't interest-only mortgages normally combined with something else to pay-off the principle at some point in the future?
09:07.13bilarhinterest only is for mugs IMO... I bet most people who have an IO mortgage don't save anything up to pay of the principal
09:07.18Leedsmy mortgage is down to 475 or so now
09:07.43cpufreakmy goal is to pay mine off by the time I'm 30
09:07.47cpufreakassuming I'm in the same place
09:07.51cpufreakneed to save :(
09:07.57LeedsI missed that by 3 years already :(
09:08.04bilarhyou must be almost 30 arleady surely :)
09:08.26Leedsalmost in a negative way?
09:08.39bilarhno i meant he can't have that much time left
09:08.51Leedsoh, him not me...
09:08.56cpufreakbilarh: 2.5 years to go.
09:08.56bilarhyes :)
09:09.17bilarhi've got 3 months to go
09:09.18cpufreakthat said, I'm looking forward to owning this http://www.corvette.co.uk/pages.php?section=cars&itemID=160&source=home
09:09.27cpufreakwhich may leed to some delay
09:09.38bilarhvery nice indeed
09:10.13bilarhnot knowing anything about american cars at all, but isn't it going to feel wooly and horrible after the csl?
09:10.18bilarhor do they actually handle well nowadays?
09:10.21cpufreakif I get the money for the CSL this week I'll be putting down a 50% deposit on Saturday
09:10.32cpufreakthe Corvette z06 is very unamerican in handling and feel
09:10.40cpufreakasides from being quite wide
09:10.42bilarhaha, nice
09:11.00antiphaseYou can always sleep in it if you haven't got a flat
09:11.07cpufreakit'll lap the 'ring about 10 seconds quicker than the CSL, with the vette on road tyres, the csl on cup tyres.
09:11.21bilarhbloody hell, they've got it quite right then eh
09:11.30cpufreakthat and it has 500bhp
09:11.56bilarhsupercharged csl? :)
09:11.56cpufreakantiphase: true; but provided people keep gambling I should be alright
09:12.06cpufreaknah, done with the csl now
09:12.12cpufreakneed a different type of car
09:12.14Leedscpufreak: where do you work?
09:12.26cpufreakfor the world's leading betting exchange
09:13.20LeedsI assume you're just techie?
09:13.33cpufreakI manage the performance services team
09:13.45Leedsokay, but not on the business/commercial side?
09:13.58cpufreakno, am in the technology department
09:14.10cpufreakwhy?
09:14.21LeedsI work on a few sports prediction games, and the boss keeps talking about getting some 'real' odds from somewhere to integrate into our stuff
09:14.55cpufreakahh
09:14.58Leedsbrb
09:15.00cpufreakyou shoudl talk to  our business developmetn people
09:16.36bilarhoh yeah... my 402 times: 13.57/103.3 with a 60ft of 2.07
09:19.32Leedscpufreak: yeah, hence the questions
09:20.36morsingantiphase: Inflation
09:22.12Leedsyay, inflate away your debt - it works for the government!
09:22.57morsingLeeds: Inflation pays off 2/3 of your mortgage over 30 years
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09:24.36cpufreakLeeds: send me an email with what you want, and I'll pass it to someone who can help and will get in touch
09:25.12Leedsthanks - need to discuss it with the boss, who's already gone for the day, but I'll get back to you this week
09:25.18cpufreaksure
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10:37.03ChoHagAh crappy UI.
10:37.18ChoHag"Postcode (Please ensure you enter a space because our programmers are lazy)"
10:39.24wethrinBecause it's so hard to add or remove spaces
10:40.27ChoHagI wonder sometimes if these people ever actually use Google.
10:41.23wethrinsed -e "s/ //g" # Look ma, no spaces
10:44.35ChoHagExcept they clearly believe they have to add a space because that's what's in the database the post office sent them and then they'd have to do more work than merely add a part to the WHERE clause.
10:45.46wethrinIt's still not hard
10:46.38antiphaseIt's easier still to concatenate the two parts before putting them in the database
10:46.49antiphasesince you never need them separately
10:49.05ChoHagYeah they're just lazy programmers.
10:49.18ChoHagSecond interview today at 3.
10:50.10ChoHagw
10:50.29ChoHaguh s/^M/^H/
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12:36.13halihm
12:50.35wethrinnotes the Met are being corrupt again
12:50.56bilarhwethrin: what have they done now?
12:51.01wethrinhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8192964.stm
12:51.09wethrinPersonal spending on corporate credit cards
12:51.18bilarhoh right, that's old hat isn't it?
12:51.32wethrinMaybe the news is that they won't be prosecuted
12:51.41bilarhwtf
12:51.49bilarhjesus christ
12:51.50dick_turpinYeah silly sods didn't rent porn movies with the cards because as we all know thats OK
12:51.54bilarheven the police is rotten in england
12:52.45wethrinWell, let's not go into the whole beating an innocent man during the demonstrations business
12:52.48dick_turpinwethrin: They are not being prosecuted as there are too many of them we'd have no force left
12:53.02wethrinFrankly, with the way the Met seems to be - is that a bad thing?
12:53.41bilarhdick_turpin: it's only 1000 officers
12:53.45bilarhsurely there's more than that in london
12:54.02bilarhi mean they're on every f'in street corner and doughnut shop nowadays
12:54.30dick_turpinYou wanna live up here, the worst crime we get is nicking a chicken from Sainsbury's, basically its a village. Yet the cops tear round like it Miami Vice
12:55.18wethrinbilarh: Aren't they Community Support Officers, rather than real police?
12:55.34wethrindick_turpin: They're keeping an eye on *you*, aren't they?
12:56.16bilarhi like to think of them as brown shirts
12:56.23bilarhand the real ones as "black shirts"
12:56.51dick_turpinWe had a fair last weekend up the local park, there they was in riot gear and stab vests I felt really sorry for the guy weaving wicker baskets "Ello ello that looks like a lethal weapon to me sunny Jim"
12:57.25wethrindid they expect that much trouble at the fair?
12:57.26bilarhit's just insane
12:58.34dick_turpinIts a very big park but I'd say there was 200 people tops you should have seen them, putting out cones walking around in pairs it was pathetic
12:59.14wethrinoh dear
13:00.13dick_turpinIf I see any walking through the village I have to bite my tongue I want to scream "Who's nicked your car mate?"
13:01.11wethrinthey'd 'ave you for that!
13:01.15wethrinhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/8192569.stm
13:02.11bilarhthat is a pretty good photo :)
13:02.16wethrinso are the rest
13:03.10dick_turpinI cant find any rude ones :-(
13:03.27bilarhwethrin: indeed
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