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| 00:34.56 | Armand|Laptop | Hey DiscordianUK.. |
| 00:35.18 | DiscordianUK | Hiya |
| 00:39.00 | Armand|Laptop | Just finished a rather late dinner. :) |
| 00:39.20 | DiscordianUK | i'd say very late |
| 00:40.19 | Armand|Laptop | lol |
| 00:40.43 | Armand|Laptop | The missus is on late shifts, she's working 3 to 11:30.. >_< |
| 00:46.12 | Armand|Laptop | It was very nice though.. We did bolognese with pasta. :) |
| 00:47.05 | DiscordianUK | Mmm |
| 01:15.58 | Armand|Laptop | gnite all. |
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| 07:22.54 | hali | morning |
| 07:23.27 | Nafallo | morning hali |
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| 08:56.30 | morsing | agk! |
| 08:56.30 | morsing | Any experts on modules and modules.conf around? |
| 08:56.35 | morsing | "To make sure that the kernel module mptctl will be loaded at each startup of the server : |
| 08:56.35 | morsing | echo "alias char-major-10-220 mptctl" >> /etc/modprobe.conf |
| 08:56.35 | morsing | " |
| 08:56.36 | morsing | How come it won't load that module on boot? |
| 08:58.41 | Leeds | because that sets up a load-on-demand from a device node |
| 08:58.54 | morsing | Leeds: How come it doesn't work? |
| 08:59.11 | Leeds | the first time anything accesses the character node with major 10, minor 220, it'll get loaded |
| 09:00.55 | morsing | Leeds: I have a script that runs mpt-status, which fails because the module isn't loaded. Isn't that accessing the device? |
| 09:01.06 | Leeds | no idea |
| 09:01.21 | morsing | :-/ |
| 09:25.36 | wethrin | morsing: Try looking at /etc/modules |
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| 09:25.45 | wethrin | At least on Debian: |
| 09:25.47 | morsing | gregj! |
| 09:25.52 | morsing | wethrin: Doesn't exist |
| 09:25.56 | wethrin | # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time. |
| 09:25.56 | wethrin | # |
| 09:25.56 | wethrin | # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded |
| 09:25.56 | wethrin | # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with "#" are ignored. |
| 09:25.56 | wethrin | # Parameters can be specified after the module name. |
| 09:26.30 | gregj | ! |
| 09:26.53 | wethrin | hi gregj |
| 09:27.09 | gregj | wethrin: :) |
| 09:27.13 | wethrin | You could try creating it, see what happens |
| 09:41.16 | morsing | 10:40 * ket hates anything linux becuase it always spells doom, migraines, and broken shit written by petulant brats living in mom's basement |
| 09:41.51 | bilarh | :D |
| 10:12.12 | Alex | it's true |
| 10:12.16 | Alex | damn freetards |
| 10:33.40 | z00dax | humm interestingly iomart are now involved with rapidswitch |
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| 10:36.15 | cpufreak | well they bought them |
| 10:36.24 | cpufreak | about 6 months ago |
| 10:37.51 | z00dax | yeah, I missed that at the time. |
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| 11:12.14 | z00dax | is the rs232-rs232 rj45'd cable that Sun ship for their LOM's a straight through or a cross (null modem) cable ? |
| 11:12.30 | wethrin | I think it's a special pinout |
| 11:12.59 | z00dax | I've taken the cable from 2 Netra's which seem able to use this just fine, and added a couple of rj45-> db9's and put them on PC's - zaro data passing syndrome :/ |
| 11:13.13 | wethrin | Ahh. A PC != terminal |
| 11:13.31 | wethrin | or possibly the rj45 -> de9 isn't quite right inside |
| 11:13.44 | z00dax | that might explain it. Although the same cable seems to work from Netra to a cisco 3500 |
| 11:13.47 | wethrin | your best thing - find a multimeter, and see which pin's connected to where |
| 11:13.59 | wethrin | You may need a null-modem to connect it to a PC |
| 11:15.02 | z00dax | I've got a machine being very unreliable. and i know the nmi watchdog is helping reboot it and saving me and DC staff walks over to reboot it, so trying to see if i can get the machine next to it be a minicom serial console |
| 11:16.04 | wethrin | I've always tended to make serial cables when I needed them |
| 11:17.30 | z00dax | yes, good plan. I'm just concerned that's going to be a bit of a time sink. let me email the guys at coreix and see if they have one hanging around that they dont mind sharing for few days |
| 11:17.47 | z00dax | if not, then i guess thats plan-B, get the bits, make one. drive it in. |
| 11:17.51 | z00dax | guess i could post it to them as well. |
| 11:18.05 | z00dax | pencils in trip to maplin on the way back home |
| 11:18.54 | bilarh | can't you just *buy* one? why do you have to make one? |
| 11:19.08 | bilarh | seems like an awful lot of time spending to save 10-15 quid |
| 11:20.31 | z00dax | could do - but this is way more fun! |
| 11:21.11 | z00dax | actually, i was thinking of getting a usb hub, and a bunch of serial-> usb cables, and just consoling all the machines there from 1 place. |
| 11:22.04 | bilarh | warning for the usb-serial adaptors |
| 11:22.15 | z00dax | ( I have one that works ) |
| 11:22.24 | bilarh | in my experience, most of them suck, unless you spend quite a bit of money |
| 11:23.36 | wethrin | bilarh: It's not that easy to get hold of an RJ45 to DE9 serial cable |
| 11:23.37 | z00dax | I have one that says : |
| 11:23.39 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.39 | z00dax | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:23.56 | wethrin | by the time you've found one, got it delivered, etc., you're actually better off spending half an hour with a soldering iron and a crimp tool |
| 11:24.06 | z00dax | that one seems to work, however I bought it in the US. and will prolly get a bunch more when I am there next. not too expensive, $5/each |
| 11:24.16 | bilarh | z00dax: not a bad deal :) |
| 11:24.32 | bilarh | i got my 8.99 cable from maplins to work, eventually |
| 11:24.46 | bilarh | but only after spending hours looking for drivers, because the supplied ones obviously didn't fit |
| 11:24.52 | bilarh | s/fit/work |
| 11:24.56 | z00dax | drivers ? wtf ? |
| 11:25.01 | z00dax | usb_serial fw! |
| 11:25.12 | bilarh | this one needed drivers |
| 11:25.14 | z00dax | or usbserial |
| 11:25.16 | bilarh | at least on vista and xp :) |
| 11:25.16 | z00dax | humm |
| 11:25.26 | boudiccas | http://xkcd.com/627/ |
| 11:25.45 | z00dax | ark3116 <-- included in linux kernel mainline for a long long time ( is the one being used here ) |
| 11:26.13 | bilarh | boudiccas: :D |
| 11:26.23 | bilarh | z00dax: yes, i needed mine for some data logging software that only works on windows |
| 11:26.46 | z00dax | ls /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/; <-- should tell you whats in there for you - the problem part is finding something that actually matches that list. |
| 11:26.59 | z00dax | bilarh: people still use windows ? |
| 11:27.03 | z00dax | :) |
| 11:27.45 | bilarh | yes, in the Real World (tm) ;) |
| 11:27.50 | bilarh | no but yes but |
| 11:28.00 | bilarh | anyway, it was a painful experience on Windows |
| 11:28.20 | bilarh | never tried one in linux, but maybe the driver support is actually better in linux nowadays for that kind of hardware |
| 11:28.29 | z00dax | looking at the list of usb/serial .ko's - there seem to be quite a few for the gps / tracker devices... |
| 11:30.52 | z00dax | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LOM_port -> rollover cable, seems to suggest its a null modem cable already |
| 11:31.12 | z00dax | given that it works now, i think its a safe assumption that the problem is either db9 adapters or one of the machines has a busted rs232 port. |
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| 12:15.21 | morsing | Armand|Laptop! |
| 12:15.32 | Armand|Laptop | morsing! |
| 12:25.01 | hali | are the new six core amd's any good? |
| 12:25.36 | z00dax | havent used one yet |
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| 12:25.49 | hali | i've ordered one but dell keeps slipping the delivery date |
| 12:25.51 | z00dax | for the quad cores, most roles seem to be intel > AMD at the moment. |
| 12:25.56 | hali | yes |
| 12:26.12 | Armand|Laptop | intel is pwning AMD all out atm.. ?? |
| 12:26.21 | hali | i'll try to get time to do a comparsion to the new 5500 xeon |
| 12:26.25 | hali | Armand|Laptop: more or less |
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| 12:28.00 | z00dax | the i9's should be around by the end of this year, so AMD better start shipping soon |
| 12:28.24 | hali | yes |
| 12:28.25 | z00dax | have also heard some really good things about the power7 |
| 12:28.25 | Armand|Laptop | I'd be happy to get a decent Core2 atm. :P |
| 12:28.42 | hali | power6-7 has got great potential, it's just to expensive atm |
| 12:29.03 | z00dax | Armand|Laptop: you should be able to get a fairly economical q6600 these days, or a amd64x2 if you are so inclined. |
| 12:29.13 | cpufreak | intel wont have nehalem ex out til next year |
| 12:29.16 | hali | ibm should push out some cheapish 2U boxes with power procs for the linux market |
| 12:29.26 | cpufreak | so for 4/8 socket machines, AMD still has the market |
| 12:30.23 | z00dax | hali: i thikn they tried that with the openpower 720 / 710 series - didnt go too well iirc, never seen one of those in the wild |
| 12:30.35 | hali | neither have i |
| 12:30.58 | cpufreak | http://badger.ing.me.uk/32way.png |
| 12:31.03 | z00dax | http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/openpower/720/index.html |
| 12:31.24 | Armand|Laptop | cpufreak: Show off... ¬_¬ |
| 12:31.38 | hali | pseries is a bit to complex for companies just to go out and buy, with hmc and all that stuff |
| 12:31.42 | hali | cpufreak: dl785? |
| 12:31.47 | cpufreak | r |
| 12:31.56 | cpufreak | we're getting some 6core ones shortly |
| 12:32.11 | cpufreak | the downside with these fucking dl785s and x4600s etc |
| 12:32.21 | cpufreak | is that if you want the memory to run at full speed |
| 12:32.24 | cpufreak | you can't fill them with memory |
| 12:32.31 | cpufreak | which limits you to 128gig |
| 12:32.39 | Armand|Laptop | ONLY 128GB?? O_O |
| 12:32.40 | Armand|Laptop | :P |
| 12:32.50 | hali | well, with 32 cores you'd want a lot more than 128gigs |
| 12:33.01 | hali | 128gig of ram costs nothing these days |
| 12:33.05 | cpufreak | the bxoes will take 512gig I think |
| 12:33.35 | cpufreak | so we're having to buy different specs depending on purpose |
| 12:33.39 | cpufreak | which is annoying |
| 12:33.52 | cpufreak | as otherwise we'd just get them all with 512gig |
| 12:34.16 | hali | main use is oracle? |
| 12:34.44 | cpufreak | for these yeh |
| 12:35.49 | Armand|Laptop | z00dax: I worked out about £200 to upgrade mobo/cpu/ram.. but that's on the standard HSF. |
| 12:36.42 | cpufreak | but its quite interesting replacing a 48 way sparc box with potentially a 48 way opteron box |
| 12:37.23 | cpufreak | as each cpu is twice as fast in terms of clock speed, and about 10 times as fast in terms of actually doing stuff. |
| 12:37.44 | hali | i thought you ditch most sparc iron already? |
| 12:38.08 | hali | i'm reluctantly installing a bunch of sun t-series machines for a j2ee farm... it's pretty dog slow so far |
| 12:39.01 | z00dax | its been a while since i did much poking with oracle, are they still sticking with their per socket licensing ? |
| 12:39.09 | hali | no |
| 12:39.11 | z00dax | or are they looking at cores as well |
| 12:39.27 | cpufreak | hali: there's deciding to ditch, and ditching. |
| 12:39.40 | hali | standard edition is per socket, ee is per core-multiplier (so depends on what type of core, x86 is 0.5 cpu per core) |
| 12:39.58 | cpufreak | z00dax: cores are either 0.25, 0.5 or 0.75 the cost per cpu. dpeending on architecture. |
| 12:40.00 | hali | t1 is 0.25 and i think spac/power is 1x |
| 12:40.11 | hali | sparc* |
| 12:40.15 | hali | anyway, it's amess |
| 12:40.22 | hali | i hope they ditch it and just go per socket |
| 12:40.23 | cpufreak | hali: why are you using T seeries for j2ee? |
| 12:40.30 | cpufreak | its madness |
| 12:40.43 | hali | cpufreak: because a bean-counter figured that we can fit more of them in a rack based on power draw |
| 12:40.58 | z00dax | what about those, whatsitsname, box's that are jvm middleware thingy's |
| 12:40.59 | cpufreak | but they'll be so slow |
| 12:41.06 | hali | we have some of them too |
| 12:41.07 | hali | azuls |
| 12:41.11 | z00dax | thats it! |
| 12:41.35 | hali | we process gigabit sized datasets in a single'ish threaded weblogic j2ee app... it's pretty horrible on t-series |
| 12:47.09 | z00dax | humm.. i have recruiter on ass situation. |
| 12:47.26 | z00dax | aparently being of Indian origin and working in London implies that one is always looking for a job. |
| 12:47.54 | bilarh | what kind of job is he pimping? I might be interested |
| 12:48.38 | z00dax | OSX/Linux sysadmin in OldStreet for a startup'ish |
| 12:48.52 | z00dax | 'competitive' salary on offer. |
| 12:49.00 | bilarh | what does that even mean? :) |
| 12:51.13 | hali | z00dax: im sorry, but that's sort of my understanding of most indians i've worked with :) |
| 12:51.40 | hali | most indians i have worked with stay at each job for 6-12 months then change when someone offer them 1k more pa |
| 12:52.09 | hali | hm, except for one of our java devs, he's been here for 8 years or something |
| 12:52.36 | z00dax | actually, yea - quite a few people are like that. |
| 12:53.02 | bilarh | my colleague who was an indian had been here for 25 years |
| 12:53.10 | bilarh | as a unix admin :S |
| 12:53.36 | z00dax | wow. |
| 12:53.49 | bilarh | having said that, i think he might be second generation, or at least have come here when he was very young, because he had a british accent |
| 12:54.00 | z00dax | I was just about getting to know the alphabet about 25 years back |
| 12:54.10 | bilarh | yeah me too |
| 12:54.25 | bilarh | lots of people here have worked here longer than i've been alive |
| 12:54.30 | bilarh | including womb time :) |
| 12:54.33 | z00dax | has a brit accent too, only to be used in the USA |
| 12:55.10 | z00dax | although, given I've been here for 8+ years now, i think its fair I make more of an effort. |
| 12:55.22 | z00dax | most other places, I'd have been speaking the local language way back |
| 12:55.34 | bilarh | do you feel like you have a british accent, though |
| 12:55.53 | bilarh | i've been here for 8+ years also, and i've definitely got an accent still :) |
| 12:55.56 | bilarh | don't think i'll ever lose it |
| 12:56.08 | hali | fucking hell |
| 12:56.11 | hali | 8 years bilarh |
| 12:56.17 | bilarh | yeah it's insane isn't it |
| 12:56.18 | hali | im closing in on 6 |
| 12:56.29 | bilarh | 8 years, two months and 14 days :S |
| 12:56.32 | z00dax | speaking normally, no i dont think I have a Brit Accent at all. Although i say some words very differently |
| 12:56.36 | hali | i still remember driving around in the celica in motala :-) |
| 12:56.45 | bilarh | hali: happy days :D |
| 12:56.51 | hali | yes |
| 12:57.07 | hali | im accent is quite strong as well, noone thinks im swedish though |
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| 12:57.17 | hali | most people think im dutch or something |
| 12:57.19 | bilarh | people usually guess i'm dutch |
| 12:57.26 | bilarh | yes, it's very odd |
| 12:57.39 | bilarh | although, i suppose dutch sounds quite similar to swedish |
| 12:57.51 | bilarh | like the intonation and stuff |
| 12:58.04 | z00dax | 8 years, 3 months and.. 16 days! |
| 12:58.12 | bilarh | z00dax: you win :) |
| 12:58.38 | bilarh | on a side note, i really, really want to work in london again |
| 12:58.52 | Armand|Laptop | wants to WORK again.... |
| 12:58.57 | Armand|Laptop | don't care where. :P |
| 12:59.13 | bilarh | knows he sounds like a whining bitch :P |
| 12:59.55 | z00dax | how far out of london are you at the moment ? I thought you were just down the M4 a bit |
| 13:00.39 | z00dax | guess I dont mind London too much, since I live so far out of town. |
| 13:01.12 | hali | i live in zone 2 now, for the first time ver |
| 13:01.18 | hali | always been zone 1 |
| 13:01.24 | hali | im a bit scared of out of town :P |
| 13:02.02 | z00dax | I am just outside the zones, maybe a zone7 and a mile |
| 13:02.31 | hali | im sort of getting used to the idea of living further away, just to get more space.. enough to have a dog |
| 13:03.17 | hali | may move further next year |
| 13:03.43 | Mohan | Afer zone 6 its zone A -D i guess. |
| 13:04.40 | Armand|Laptop | I didn't think there were zones outside GL.. it's all private bus companies (non-TFL) after that.. ?! |
| 13:04.47 | Armand|Laptop | *and train, ofc.. |
| 13:05.15 | bilarh | i'm in crawley at the moment... workwise... living in bromley (south east london / kent borders) |
| 13:05.17 | z00dax | Mohan: there are upto zone9, but yes - where I live it seems to be zone6 only. |
| 13:05.36 | bilarh | z00dax: there's up to zone b - watford metropolitan line :) |
| 13:06.02 | z00dax | parts of bromley are nice. park langley like |
| 13:06.11 | bilarh | langley park :D |
| 13:06.17 | z00dax | yes that |
| 13:07.23 | bilarh | i live closer to bromley south than that |
| 13:07.31 | bilarh | but yes, langley park is lovely |
| 13:07.37 | Mohan | z00dax: Metropolitan tube/trams maps shows upto zone6 followed by Zone A-D |
| 13:07.44 | bilarh | i drove past some place called "petts wood" yesterday - that seemed seriously nice as well |
| 13:08.18 | z00dax | Mohan: humm ok, i was looking at a tfl map sometime back and saw the zones upto 9... perhaps thats was /is called zone a-d |
| 13:08.26 | z00dax | bilarh: its a fucking dive |
| 13:08.37 | bilarh | petts wood? |
| 13:08.37 | Armand|Laptop | bilarh: Lots of pets are buried there... |
| 13:08.43 | z00dax | yea |
| 13:08.50 | bilarh | armand: whatever ;-) |
| 13:08.54 | Armand|Laptop | :P |
| 13:09.01 | bilarh | z00dax: really? the place i drove through seemed OK |
| 13:09.02 | z00dax | you want to go further chislehurst way for the nice |
| 13:09.06 | bilarh | nice and quiet streets :) |
| 13:09.09 | bilarh | massive houses |
| 13:09.27 | z00dax | bilarh: its like inner streets of orpington, only in petts wood its the 60yr old men who'll stab ya |
| 13:09.44 | bilarh | are you joking me? |
| 13:09.54 | z00dax | ah yes, thats more chislehurst'ish than petts wood though right ? |
| 13:10.06 | bilarh | no, this was like the side roads off the high street |
| 13:10.15 | bilarh | hang on, i'll google map it |
| 13:10.28 | z00dax | no, I went out with a girl who stayed in Bickley ( this was 2002 - 2003 ) and we spent a lot of time in those areas... |
| 13:11.44 | z00dax | petts wood, st pauls cray, st marys cray... chelsfield ... |
| 13:11.51 | bilarh | st mary's cray sucks |
| 13:11.56 | bilarh | it's full of chavs |
| 13:12.00 | bilarh | we looked there as well :) |
| 13:12.25 | z00dax | the area out north-west from petts wood - towards chislehurt - that is *very* nice |
| 13:13.00 | bilarh | e.g. check out "nightingale road" in petts wood: http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&vps=5&jsv=172d&sll=51.38733,0.07139&sspn=0.009266,0.021415&g=Queensway,+Petts+Wood,+Orpington,+Kent+BR5,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&geocode=FZcXEAMdlRIBAA&split=0 |
| 13:13.15 | z00dax | perhaps its still postal area petts wood. I am talking more about the high street and southborough lane |
| 13:14.00 | bilarh | hmm, yes, i suppose southborough lane isn't too nice |
| 13:14.13 | bilarh | still better than a lot of other places around london, though :) |
| 13:14.30 | bilarh | this nightingale road is right off the high st |
| 13:14.44 | bilarh | hayes is super nice too, |
| 13:14.48 | bilarh | the bromley hayes, i mean |
| 13:14.56 | bilarh | wouldn't mind living there, but the prices are really steep |
| 13:15.21 | z00dax | yea, that place is good - lots and lots of london working high paid people in that area |
| 13:15.32 | z00dax | i guess the mostly easy commute to blame |
| 13:15.35 | bilarh | yep, unfortunately |
| 13:15.42 | z00dax | http://www.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=&g=Queensway,+Petts+Wood,+Orpington,+Kent+BR5,+United+Kingdom&ie=UTF8&geocode=FZcXEAMdlRIBAA&split=0&ll=51.403302,0.091023&spn=0.009437,0.015385&t=h&z=16 |
| 13:15.48 | z00dax | that area is quite nice as well |
| 13:16.08 | z00dax | its the west side of st pauls cray to about the north side of petts wood |
| 13:16.54 | bilarh | hmm maybe |
| 13:17.05 | bilarh | i've discounted all the "cray's" because st mary cray was so dire |
| 13:17.08 | z00dax | nice 6 - 8 bed houses out there :D |
| 13:17.17 | bilarh | yeah, for 5-600k :) |
| 13:17.22 | bilarh | i couldn't even afford the stamp duty :D |
| 13:18.03 | z00dax | we were at the station when someone got off at foots cray into the arms of 3 guys who then proceeded to beat him and stab him a few times. |
| 13:18.19 | bilarh | brilliant :S |
| 13:18.26 | z00dax | later turned out to be an off duty police guy, being hit since he locked up their 4 th brother |
| 13:18.34 | z00dax | 2005, iirc |
| 13:18.52 | bilarh | to be honest, i've never seen any trouble at all around london |
| 13:19.00 | bilarh | well, not any more than usual fist fights etc |
| 13:19.02 | z00dax | no, 2004. |
| 13:20.07 | z00dax | bilarh: mostly because having an iq level > 70 is required in the city |
| 13:20.21 | bilarh | hmm |
| 13:20.29 | bilarh | but i've lived in bromley for about 3.5 years now :) |
| 14:44.23 | z00dax | today, we are restoring data from raid0 |
| 14:44.40 | bilarh | raid0 ftw |
| 14:44.47 | bilarh | mind, we use it on all our cluster nodes |
| 14:44.53 | bilarh | but otherwise it quite sucks :) |
| 14:54.46 | wethrin | Use the right tool for the job! |
| 14:54.54 | wethrin | Sometimes RAID0 is the right tool |
| 14:56.07 | bilarh | indeed |
| 14:56.41 | bilarh | "when you only have raid-0, every problem looks like raid-0", or something |
| 14:57.10 | wethrin | It'd be good on, say, an HFS |
| 14:57.23 | wethrin | where if you lose the front-most disks, it really doesn't matter |
| 14:58.28 | bilarh | with the risk of sounding like an idiot - what's HFS? :) |
| 14:58.35 | bilarh | apart from the macintosh fs |
| 14:58.46 | wethrin | Hierarchical File System |
| 14:58.48 | wethrin | or File Store |
| 14:59.01 | wethrin | basically, storage gets faster and smaller towards the front |
| 14:59.03 | bilarh | that's exactly what the apple filesystem is called? |
| 14:59.14 | wethrin | And bigger and slower towards the back |
| 14:59.18 | wethrin | Think: cache |
| 14:59.19 | bilarh | oh |
| 14:59.37 | bilarh | we have something quite similar |
| 14:59.43 | bilarh | with tape at the back end |
| 14:59.48 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 14:59.54 | bilarh | which gets written to disk on demand |
| 14:59.57 | wethrin | apart from hard disk is so much cheaper than tape :) |
| 15:00.00 | wethrin | That's the bunny. |
| 15:00.24 | bilarh | all our field data lives on tapes, so it's quite convenient for us in that respect, though :) |
| 15:00.47 | bilarh | we'd have to go tape->disk first anyway |
| 15:01.01 | wethrin | aye |
| 15:01.19 | wethrin | so if your tapes go, you're fucked. |
| 15:01.25 | bilarh | yes |
| 15:01.27 | wethrin | If the faster storage goes, it's just annoying. |
| 15:01.53 | bilarh | we shoot the same area lots of times, so it's not generally a problem, but yes, when a tape goes, it creates a tiny gap in the data |
| 15:02.08 | bilarh | we still use 3590 :D |
| 15:02.18 | bilarh | although the HFS stuff doesn't use 3590 anymore |
| 15:03.05 | bilarh | anyway, time to run home |
| 15:03.06 | bilarh | l8rs |
| 15:03.11 | wethrin | later |
| 15:03.39 | bilarh | what is this non-el1+3 sp33k... i can't understand you :P |
| 15:03.49 | wethrin | heh |
| 15:12.46 | z00dax | I use raid000 as well |
| 15:13.16 | z00dax | with enough disks, the channels start getting a bit slow, so add another channel, and raid-0 the two channels :) |
| 15:13.37 | z00dax | but its a case of tool->job fit. |
| 15:14.23 | z00dax | loading 1.8 TiB/ of data, everyday, starting at 10am, to get some specific reports done by 4pm isnt trivial when working with nonexistant budgets |
| 15:14.40 | z00dax | be nice to just go out and buy a neteeza boz |
| 15:16.10 | hali | oracle exadata |
| 15:16.13 | hali | pretty cool |
| 15:17.45 | z00dax | dude |
| 15:17.50 | z00dax | thats like $100k/TiB |
| 15:18.47 | z00dax | are there many people apart from Reuters who'd still be paying that kinda money these days ? |
| 15:19.01 | wethrin | dumb companies |
| 15:19.09 | wethrin | that get taken in my glossy sales literature |
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| 15:34.17 | hali | im tempted to get one :) |
| 15:34.29 | hali | Wallmart has got like 10 of them |
| 15:49.08 | z00dax | those guys, and Amazon, have pretty much one of everything atleast. |
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| 16:49.04 | hali | greenplum looks interesting too |
| 17:42.22 | Nafallo | hmm |
| 17:42.36 | Nafallo | looks like Telehouse are having a bad day. |
| 17:43.22 | Nafallo | anyone in there? |
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| 19:08.14 | gregj | http://www.sadistic.pl/pics/612b98c7cbf4.jpg |
| 19:08.18 | gregj | nice fail |
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| 21:44.58 | londonmet050 | yo guys |
| 21:45.27 | DiscordianUK | evening |
| 21:45.35 | londonmet050 | hey Dis |
| 21:45.41 | londonmet050 | nice to see you here |
| 21:45.49 | londonmet050 | what are you up to |
| 21:53.19 | DiscordianUK | i'm just chilling before sleep |
| 21:54.25 | londonmet050 | good |
| 21:56.04 | DiscordianUK | yourself/ |
| 21:57.05 | londonmet050 | been to gym |
| 21:57.25 | londonmet050 | thinking why women are shallow |
| 21:57.41 | DiscordianUK | some are |
| 21:57.46 | DiscordianUK | many men are |
| 21:58.31 | londonmet050 | I think life is much better when you are single |
| 21:59.52 | londonmet050 | really hard to understand them.. more picky and magnets to A** H***s |
| 22:00.11 | z00dax | i disagree, quite strongly |
| 22:00.28 | z00dax | life is a hole, when single |
| 22:00.45 | DiscordianUK | Life sucks |
| 22:03.39 | londonmet050 | z00dax: really |
| 22:03.58 | z00dax | totally |
| 22:04.02 | londonmet050 | unless you meet someone that goes along with you |
| 22:04.11 | londonmet050 | Dis: life really sucks |
| 22:04.34 | z00dax | usually, people dont get into relationships unless things 'go along' |
| 22:05.11 | londonmet050 | true |
| 22:05.35 | londonmet050 | But women in London are more in to fun rather than relationships |
| 22:14.12 | z00dax | and you think relationships cant be fun ? |
| 22:15.26 | londonmet050 | not sure |
| 22:15.30 | DiscordianUK | they can be |
| 22:15.38 | z00dax | why get into one if its a pain |
| 22:15.40 | londonmet050 | I am already screwed once |
| 22:16.01 | z00dax | londonmet050: yes, freebsd is like that |
| 22:16.18 | londonmet050 | lol |
| 22:16.19 | londonmet050 | nice one |
| 22:41.44 | londonmet050 | night fellows |
| 22:42.04 | DiscordianUK | Good night |
| 22:42.10 | DiscordianUK | sleep well |
| 22:42.43 | londonmet050 | i will try to |
