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| 09:03.26 | Ch0Hag | How can I test the charge in a 3V battery? |
| 09:03.54 | Ch0Hag | I have a battery tester but it does 1.5 and 9V, so I've no idea how to interpret the result. |
| 09:13.45 | wethrin | Multimeter |
| 09:16.17 | antiphase | You may be able to determine almost nothing without a load test as well, depending on the battery chemistry |
| 09:18.43 | Leeds | surely all you need is to test it at 1.5V and look for a 200% result? |
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| 09:40.22 | mindbendr | morning |
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| 10:24.48 | Ch0Hag | Wahey! The Scottish have learned how to use their printer. |
| 10:25.08 | Ch0Hag | Now I just need to wait for the postmen to bother getting around to delivering it. |
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| 11:13.43 | Ch0Hag | "an employment business may not supply a temporary worker to a hirer to replace an individual taking part in an official strike or any other official industrial dispute." |
| 11:13.48 | Ch0Hag | That's pretty fucking stupid. |
| 11:14.07 | Ch0Hag | "We're going to stop working for you and you're not allowed to do anything about it, even if you can." |
| 11:23.14 | cpufreak | its illegal to hire someone in the place of someone striking |
| 11:23.23 | cpufreak | but I think it should be illegal to strike |
| 11:24.13 | Ch0Hag | I know, and it's dumb. |
| 11:24.31 | Ch0Hag | It means that the customers (ie. us) are forced to suffer, not the company. |
| 11:26.47 | antiphase | Up the workers! |
| 11:27.41 | Ch0Hag | Only if 'the workers' is meant in the same way as 'yours'. |
| 11:27.57 | Ch0Hag | My dad's been a postman a few times and he's never striked. |
| 11:28.00 | Ch0Hag | (Struck?) |
| 11:28.02 | hali | if they dont like working for the post office, go elsewhere |
| 11:28.16 | antiphase | "gone on strike" is the usual way of saying it I think |
| 11:28.38 | antiphase | Sack the lot of them, and the Tube drivers as well |
| 11:28.52 | Ch0Hag | Also, we're in a supposedly capitalist economy, so the way should be cleared for TNT to compete as they want to do. |
| 11:28.55 | antiphase | Make sure they can never work for a public-funded company ever again |
| 11:29.39 | Ch0Hag | Then the whole country could collectively tell Royle Mail to fuck themselves. |
| 11:29.45 | antiphase | As they want to do would most likely fail to include them collecting from post boxes or delivering to rural areas |
| 11:30.16 | Ch0Hag | Well yeah it's hardly like they could replace the whole infrastructure overnight. |
| 11:30.55 | Ch0Hag | They should be given the opportunity to invest in doing so, though. |
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| 14:29.20 | morsing | eye69: Where's bilarh? |
| 14:31.54 | morsing | wethrin: Where's eye69? |
| 14:45.20 | AndyMillar | dunno :( |
| 14:45.40 | morsing | :( |
| 14:46.01 | morsing | AndyMillar: How do I see how much space is available in a Solaris rootvg? |
| 14:46.18 | AndyMillar | no idea, never had the (mis)fortune to use Solaris :( |
| 14:46.30 | morsing | Good for you, it's dreadful |
| 14:46.46 | AndyMillar | so I keep being told :-p |
| 14:46.50 | morsing | :) |
| 14:46.55 | AndyMillar | so i've never put much effort into finding out for myself |
| 14:50.34 | morsing | AndyMillar: What does "Fruity" mean? |
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| 14:50.45 | morsing | PcSett! |
| 14:51.39 | PcSett | Hi morsing!!! Great - I recall the name! |
| 14:51.45 | morsing | You do?! |
| 14:51.47 | morsing | :) |
| 14:54.07 | PcSett | Yeah - back in the days when i first tried to load/install my first Linux distro - Suzy 10 I think. You guys were absoiutely marvellous and very kind to an old fart (I'm even older now!). |
| 14:54.26 | morsing | :) |
| 14:54.28 | AndyMillar | that does tend to be what happens :-) |
| 14:54.35 | morsing | is old too |
| 14:55.32 | PcSett | My typing skills have NOT improved but yeah, that getting older bit. Yeah. Um. And NOT missing widoze. Yeah. |
| 14:56.16 | PcSett | It should be stated: morsing is younger than me! (I think ... ) :-P |
| 14:56.29 | morsing | You think? |
| 14:57.15 | Ch0Hag | Kind? |
| 14:57.27 | PcSett | My SWMBO has just brought me a cuppa. Service this end is fine - how's GLLUG? |
| 14:57.44 | AndyMillar | SWMBO? |
| 14:57.53 | morsing | Ch0Hag: Yeah, he clearly didn't pick up on the sarcasm |
| 14:58.01 | PcSett | Tell 'im someone ... |
| 14:58.06 | Ch0Hag | AndyMillar: Wife. |
| 14:58.07 | morsing | PcSett: gllug is dead |
| 14:58.17 | AndyMillar | Ch0Hag: ah :) |
| 14:58.37 | AndyMillar | morsing: it's not dead, there's still rants about Camalyn (sp?) |
| 14:59.07 | morsing | AndyMillar: Well, almost dead but certainly very rude (as Linux people are) |
| 14:59.10 | PcSett | 'Taint! Not according to reportage - and loadsa legal tangles. |
| 15:02.50 | PcSett | The last drinking buddy who could be relied upon to see me safely to a decent pub has succumbed to alcoholism - so my SWMBO won't let me out to attend any of your bunfights in central London pubs on my own. I'd love to arrive at such a one, claiming knowledge of either your grand kin or paternity! :-* |
| 15:03.05 | morsing | mozrat was here?!?! |
| 15:05.29 | PcSett | Oh blurry 'ell. I missed him. HE was the kindest of all, back some years ago. I shall watch out for his next appearance. :'( |
| 15:06.30 | PcSett | Look - it's been fun, but I gotta go - din-dins and stuff. Be well, you luvverly people. Cheers, Don :) |
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| 15:06.51 | AndyMillar | o_O |
| 15:07.00 | AndyMillar | morsing: there are nice people in here? how did that happen? |
| 15:17.00 | mindbendr | nice or weird? |
| 15:17.25 | AndyMillar | ending up in here, that tends to be both# |
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| 15:31.49 | Blapto | Blame wethrin |
| 15:32.01 | wethrin | No. |
| 15:32.03 | wethrin | You suck. |
| 15:32.09 | wethrin | I mean, your company sucks. |
| 15:32.24 | Blapto | OK |
| 15:32.30 | Blapto | We're also hiring two linux admins. |
| 15:32.33 | Blapto | To suck with us. |
| 15:32.38 | wethrin | What's the pay? |
| 15:32.47 | Blapto | Not sure I can discuss it over IRC |
| 15:32.56 | Blapto | (Not sure I know, to be honest) |
| 15:33.01 | Blapto | It's decent. |
| 15:33.02 | wethrin | Fair do. But it'd be in London. |
| 15:33.08 | Blapto | Yes, Leicester Square |
| 15:33.10 | wethrin | And I'd rather stay Oop Norf. |
| 15:33.16 | wethrin | for a few more years still |
| 15:33.19 | wethrin | frozen north++ |
| 15:33.22 | Blapto | OK |
| 15:33.37 | AndyMillar | ooh |
| 15:33.38 | Blapto | For what it's worth, TM get none of the face value of the ticket. |
| 15:33.47 | Blapto | And give some of the service charge to the promoter. |
| 15:34.06 | AndyMillar | hmm, Leicester Square would be interesting :p |
| 15:34.09 | Blapto | So they suck, but only because it's their job to suck, so that people still love the artist. |
| 15:34.14 | wethrin | It's quite annoying, though, when a venue advertises tickets at, say, £25. And you can't *get* tickets for £25 |
| 15:34.20 | Blapto | The artist gets some of the service charge as well. |
| 15:34.22 | wethrin | Because they all go through Ticketmaster, or somesuch |
| 15:34.41 | Blapto | Yes, that's the promoter's fault though. Just it's our role to be despised and take the flack. |
| 15:34.42 | wethrin | And if you listed the service charge right at the start, when you list the ticket price, that'd be nicer |
| 15:35.14 | AndyMillar | Blapto: what does "decent" mean? Is that decent compared to working in Tesco, or "decent" compared to a linux sysadmin in some financial institution? |
| 15:35.17 | Blapto | We want to do that, but promoter don't want us to. Only exception is artists managed by Front Line, because TM now owns Front Line. We did it for The Eagles' last tour and consumers loved it. |
| 15:35.32 | wethrin | Then the promoter is a cunt. |
| 15:35.53 | wethrin | It's fairly poor on the part of a person who's buying tickets for a group, too |
| 15:36.10 | wethrin | "Yeah, it'll be £30 a head." <some time passes> "Err, you have to give me £35 a head" |
| 15:36.13 | Blapto | Ah, yeah, doesn't help. I'm not saying I like it, only that that's how it is. |
| 15:36.33 | wethrin | I also disapprove of the fact that you charge for printing out your own tickets |
| 15:37.05 | wethrin | It's not like it costs you to store the data in your database! |
| 15:37.09 | AndyMillar | wethrin: it does! |
| 15:37.20 | Blapto | Yes, that's apparently justified by paying for the infrastructure to generate PDFs |
| 15:37.27 | Blapto | And it does cost to store data. |
| 15:37.45 | wethrin | You need better infrastructure, then :-P |
| 15:37.50 | Blapto | It's probably really justified by management deciding to make a profitable company |
| 15:37.52 | wethrin | or cheaper ones ;-) |
| 15:38.00 | Blapto | Which is really the aim of any public company. |
| 15:38.21 | wethrin | So my options would be to pay £1.50 to use my own printer, or to pay £1.50 to hope the Royal Mail aren't being lazy arses and actually deliver the tickets |
| 15:38.21 | Leeds | it's not a problem if there's an alternative |
| 15:38.37 | Blapto | It's not Royal Mail, I don't think, it's SMS. |
| 15:39.10 | Ch0Hag | They are. |
| 15:39.10 | Leeds | but when you get to the point where the venue won't sell you a ticket over-the-counter because you have to buy from their ticketing bastards |
| 15:39.10 | Ch0Hag | has inside knowledge. |
| 15:39.12 | Ch0Hag | Any regular mail going through London is choked up. |
| 15:39.20 | Ch0Hag | Special & recorded is fine. |
| 15:39.40 | Blapto | Most venues still run their own box offices. |
| 15:39.53 | Blapto | It generally goes through TM infrastructure, but I don't think there's a service charge attached. |
| 15:40.03 | Ch0Hag | I think the only thing worth using the post for now is bills, because nobody cares if they're late. |
| 15:40.04 | wethrin | Mh. Sadly, it'd cost me more to go in person to the Newcastle City Hall, than it would to pay Blapto |
| 15:43.07 | Blapto | Ticketing does suck, but it's not entirely ticketmaster's fault. |
| 15:43.26 | Leeds | just mainly their fault? |
| 15:43.31 | Blapto | No, partly. |
| 15:43.44 | Blapto | Mainly artist management and event promoters, I'd say. |
| 15:43.57 | wethrin | It's easiest to blame Blapto. Mostly because he's here :) |
| 15:44.12 | Blapto | Yes |
| 15:44.15 | Leeds | wethrin: we could arrange for him not to be here ;) |
| 15:44.21 | wethrin | hehe |
| 15:44.22 | Blapto | I can take it, I have thick skin. And your money. |
| 15:44.34 | wethrin | Leeds: Nah, it's better to mug him for a round or two at the pub |
| 15:45.08 | Blapto | I don't have that much of your money.# |
| 15:52.54 | hali | sfasfrapidswitch down again? |
| 15:52.58 | hali | rapidswitch* |
| 15:53.16 | AndyMillar | hali: do you really need to ask that? |
| 15:53.37 | hali | AndyMillar: im not discussing this with you :) |
| 15:54.08 | AndyMillar | *g* |
| 15:54.33 | Blapto | rapidstitch? |
| 15:55.15 | AndyMillar | Blapto: colo/dedi company based out in the blue square shack |
| 15:56.20 | Blapto | It was subtle wordplay, not a question. |
| 15:56.31 | AndyMillar | ah |
| 15:56.39 | AndyMillar | has irssi rather small this afternoon |
| 15:58.37 | AndyMillar | is sitting waiting for segfaults |
| 16:26.17 | Armand|Lappy | AndyMillar: Do you, by chance, go by the name 'SirMillar' on Netgamers IRC ? |
| 16:41.50 | Mohan | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIYcZercbcE |
| 16:42.18 | Mohan | bloody apprentice - really funny. |
| 16:42.54 | londonmet050 | when is beer again |
| 16:42.59 | londonmet050 | hey Mohan |
| 16:43.14 | boudiccas | every night is a beer night soemwhere and for some reason |
| 16:43.14 | Blapto | Beer is always |
| 16:43.27 | Blapto | But more specifically the 22nd? |
| 16:43.27 | boudiccas | *somewhere |
| 16:43.32 | londonmet050 | where about |
| 16:44.28 | Blapto | Looks like the Pembury Tavern |
| 16:44.32 | Blapto | But it also doesn't look final. |
| 16:46.03 | Armand|Lappy | I thought it was the 23rd ? |
| 16:46.12 | londonmet050 | is it weekend |
| 16:46.21 | Armand|Lappy | 23rd would be Friday.. |
| 16:47.19 | Blapto | It's Thursday |
| 16:47.30 | Blapto | cal |
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| 17:07.32 | Ch0Hag | Ah nice. A project called shat. |
| 17:08.56 | Blapto | Make a Dr Seuss demotivational poster for it. |
| 17:11.06 | Armand|Lappy | "shat in a hat" ?? O_O |
| 17:11.13 | Blapto | on a mat? |
| 17:11.18 | Armand|Lappy | it was fat! |
| 17:11.22 | Blapto | There's a lot you could do. Depends on the project really. |
| 17:11.25 | Blapto | And that's that. |
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| 19:05.55 | morsing | Beer |
| 19:07.43 | Armand|Lappy | Coffee! |
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| 19:08.37 | lampuser | nick londonmet050 |
| 19:16.37 | morsing | Blapto: Where's bilarh? |
| 19:34.22 | z00dax | check it |
| 19:38.11 | morsing | Beer |
| 20:06.56 | z00dax | morsing: more like bacardi black! |
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| 20:08.11 | wethrin | Foo |
| 20:09.05 | DiscordianUK | laughs at http://slashdot.org/story/09/10/19/162240/SCO-Terminates-Darl-McBride |
| 20:09.14 | DiscordianUK | Couldn't happen to a nicer chap |
| 20:11.41 | z00dax | almost sounds as if he's been assisinated or 'liquidated' |
| 20:11.55 | DiscordianUK | Doesn't it just |
| 20:12.48 | wethrin | I'll bet he got a golden handshake, though |
| 20:14.30 | Armand|Lappy | "Terminated" ... I wonder if Arnie did it? :P |
| 20:19.25 | MoZes | heh |
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