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07:40.26 | morsing | Beer |
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07:48.26 | morsing | nixofort1ne! |
08:12.20 | morsing | bilarh: Where's wethrin? |
08:21.29 | bilarh | he said he couldn't take people asking where he was anymore, so he's gone off to be a monk |
08:25.33 | morsing | :( |
08:25.44 | morsing | MoZes: mozrat? |
08:44.36 | Mohan | morning |
08:44.45 | morsing | Mohan! |
08:45.11 | Mohan | morsing! |
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09:04.48 | morsing | blight! |
09:08.30 | MoZes | mozrat ? |
09:09.24 | morsing | MoZes: Where's mozrat? |
09:09.28 | morsing | ~seen mozrat |
09:09.31 | ibot | mozrat <n=sm@194.203.40.135> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 97d 22h 28m 51s ago, saying: ''allo'. |
09:09.46 | morsing | ibot mozrat |
09:09.47 | ibot | from memory, mozrat is a geek, or pissed, or not morsing ALIVE!!!, or not a CNAME for morsing, or so pissed he can't update his factiod, or and we won!!!!!!, or not even Australian, or a piker, or morsing, or completelylylyl pissed |
09:10.15 | Ch0Hag | A piker? |
09:10.20 | bilarh | ~seen goibhniu |
09:10.21 | ibot | goibhniu <n=cillian@marx.jamkit.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 587d 20h 55m 27s ago, saying: 'beer on saturday though'. |
09:10.31 | bilarh | 587 days, christ has it been that long :S |
09:10.43 | MoZes | isn't mozrat |
09:10.57 | Ch0Hag | That's a long evening down the pub. |
09:11.03 | bilarh | indeed |
09:11.04 | Ch0Hag | His SO will be pissed. |
09:11.15 | Ch0Hag | Pissed off. He's the pissed one. |
09:13.17 | morsing | Ch0Hag: http://nzguide.newzealand.co.nz/kiwispeak/index.php?todo=list_records&order_by=Saying&FirstLetter=P |
09:15.29 | Ch0Hag | Oh. I thought it was a typo of pikey. |
09:15.42 | Ch0Hag | But then I suppose NZ slang is natural to everyone here. |
09:20.01 | Ch0Hag | How much should it cost to hire a chainsaw? |
09:21.19 | morsing | Ch0Hag: One arm |
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09:28.52 | morsing | Blapto! |
09:28.56 | Blapto | morsing! |
09:34.28 | cpufreak | bilarh: http://www.flickr.com/photos/itwasntandy/sets/72157622498587621/ |
09:34.35 | cpufreak | had some fun with some friends last night |
09:34.41 | cpufreak | morsing: you might appreciate the photos too |
09:35.02 | bilarh | sweet lambo :D |
09:35.18 | bilarh | and the gt3 rs aitn bad either |
09:35.28 | cpufreak | it sounded like god farting, it was savage |
09:35.49 | morsing | :) |
09:35.56 | morsing | Is it yours? |
09:36.01 | cpufreak | the AMG 63 Black's sounded like the devil gargling |
09:36.07 | cpufreak | no mine is the Black M3 in the pics |
09:36.08 | Blapto | Are there any volvos? |
09:36.12 | cpufreak | no volvos |
09:36.15 | Ch0Hag | Gargling with nails? |
09:36.19 | Blapto | morsing: won't be interested. |
09:36.23 | cpufreak | just mercedes, porsche, bmw and lamboghini |
09:36.31 | cpufreak | Blapto: morsing likes (some) bmws. |
09:36.36 | Blapto | Really? |
09:36.38 | bilarh | is it just my monitor, or do some of the photos look underexposed? |
09:36.44 | bilarh | nice composition, though |
09:37.04 | Blapto | They're al maybe 1/3rd stop under |
09:37.07 | cpufreak | I generally intentionally under expose shots by half a stop or so |
09:37.09 | Ch0Hag | Or maybe that's just Thor. |
09:37.15 | bilarh | this will have to be my favourite: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2683/4027595703_1c7297c679.jpg |
09:37.24 | cpufreak | and didn't bother correcting them when I got home last night, just whacked some online |
09:37.27 | cpufreak | and went to bed |
09:37.38 | cpufreak | yeh the speedster was surprising |
09:37.41 | Blapto | cpufreak: I've added you as a contact |
09:37.43 | cpufreak | kept up with the other cars really well |
09:38.00 | bilarh | i'm all bmw'd up now as well |
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10:08.34 | morsing | sabinef72! |
10:19.54 | cpufreak | bilarh: really? |
10:19.55 | cpufreak | cool |
10:19.56 | cpufreak | well done |
10:21.46 | bilarh | cpufreak: well, when i say bmw'd up, i of course mean my hybrid gearbox has finally made it's way over to me :D |
10:25.09 | morsing | Beer |
10:27.34 | Ch0Hag | Two sparc classics. Two screens. No keyboards. |
10:28.01 | DiscordianUK | sun4c heh |
10:28.36 | bilarh | serial console :) |
10:29.15 | bilarh | do they have 9-pin serial connectors or the mini din's? |
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10:38.43 | ChoHag | Heh. I guess I'm the only person using Enta. |
10:39.30 | ChoHag | Now, what can I do with a noisy sparc classic (its hard drive is noisy, anyway)? |
10:39.39 | ChoHag | I'd considered an X terminal but I've no keyboard. |
10:39.45 | bilarh | weigh it in for scrap? |
10:40.09 | Blapto | Ballast? |
10:40.17 | morsing | nixofort1ne! |
10:40.19 | morsing | Ch0Hag! |
10:40.27 | bilarh | apart from maybe netbooting it just for laughs and giggles, very little |
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10:43.00 | morsing | Ch0Hag! |
10:43.07 | ChoHag | Happy days. |
10:43.24 | ChoHag | I told openwrt not to build a load of stuff which it's decided to build anyway. |
10:43.30 | ChoHag | Kind of annoying. |
10:43.56 | morsing | I told Dave to get me some beer but he didn't do it. Also annoying... |
10:43.59 | morsing | !! |
10:45.13 | ChoHag | It wouldn't be so bad but the things I told it not to compile are the things that take a long time to compile. |
11:02.01 | hali | doing the 2010 budget, boring as hell |
11:02.12 | hali | playing it safe.. hmm... netapp/cisco sprinkle of hp |
11:02.27 | Blapto | Don't you mean IBM? |
11:04.14 | hali | not in the market for mainframes |
11:04.46 | Blapto | They do normal servers too... Just thinking if you're playing it safe you may as well do it as stereotypically as possible. |
11:04.51 | hali | everything else ibm has on offer is fairly unsafe these days unless you get full ibm services on it |
11:05.16 | Blapto | Wasn't being entirely serious. We've moved from IBM to Sun here over the last 2-3 years. |
11:05.57 | Blapto | Sun do have a nasty habit of changing specs within the same product line. |
11:06.22 | Blapto | X4100 and then X4100 M2 have different network interfaces, which stuffed some of our kickstarts. |
11:06.49 | hali | didn't m2 have some really shit chips on the second two ports? like realtek |
11:07.01 | bilarh | nvidia iirc |
11:07.02 | hali | i haven't used much x64 kit from sun |
11:07.05 | hali | nvidia yes |
11:07.14 | Blapto | Yes. |
11:07.17 | Blapto | We just disable them now. |
11:07.29 | Blapto | Part of the racking procedure for them. |
11:07.41 | hali | but the sparc kit is pretty boring these days, m-range is "fun" but not very cost effective |
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12:11.31 | morsing | celesteh! |
13:08.12 | celesteh | morsing! |
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13:11.48 | morsing | Armand|Lappy! |
13:13.24 | Armand|Lappy | Hiya. :) |
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13:55.10 | morsing | Leeds! |
13:56.45 | Armand|Lappy | Derby! |
13:56.49 | morsing | Rugby |
13:56.53 | morsing | ! |
13:57.11 | Armand|Lappy | Nottingham! |
13:57.49 | boudiccas | Norwich! |
13:57.57 | morsing | Beer! |
13:58.05 | boudiccas | Spitfire! |
13:59.12 | Blapto | Mmmm, spitfire |
13:59.13 | Armand|Lappy | Lancaster! |
13:59.32 | Blapto | Bombardier! |
14:00.37 | Armand|Lappy | Windows Updates!! |
14:00.40 | Armand|Lappy | Sorry.. |
14:00.42 | Armand|Lappy | >_< |
14:01.03 | Blapto | apt-get dist-upgrade |
14:01.43 | DiscordianUK | Mmmm Hoegaarden! |
14:03.32 | blight | Hmm Schnieder Wiesse! |
14:14.29 | ChoHag | Oh great. Now openwrt won't boot. |
14:16.04 | antiphase | Just go and buy a proper router and stop being a hippy |
14:16.33 | Armand|Lappy | updates Windows XP.. and now CS:S won't work. >_< |
14:16.39 | Armand|Lappy | wankers. |
14:16.49 | morsing | What's the number for british gas installations? |
14:16.54 | Blapto | 18 |
14:17.19 | antiphase | 118 118 and ask for brain implants |
14:21.21 | ChoHag | morsing: It prabably begins 0091 |
14:29.38 | kjs | any vmware pro's about? |
14:30.12 | morsing | kjs! |
14:30.50 | kjs | yo |
14:31.54 | antiphase | pro's what? |
14:32.22 | morsing | was just about to say that but is too polite... |
14:35.05 | Armand|Lappy | \o/ Decent frame rate on Source! |
14:35.28 | hali | kjs: i use vs4 in production ... |
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14:39.11 | morsing | celesteh! |
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14:39.58 | Armand|Lappy | ?_! |
14:41.02 | kjs | @_ |
15:08.29 | ChoHag | Vodaphone just sent me spam telling me an offer was not available to me so they've not added it to my account. |
15:09.32 | Leeds | at least they let you know |
15:35.17 | Mohan | I did get a similar SMS earlier stating that the offer is only for Pay as you go customers. but its indeed a pay as you go sim. |
15:36.18 | Mohan | I wonder why they sent me though, btw the offer is free weekends. |
15:37.50 | antiphase | You sent Robin round? |
15:41.07 | Blapto | Perhaps pay as you go is a specific plan. |
15:42.54 | Mohan | I was just going through the previous vodafone messages which says free weekends been added to your account. and spend 2.50£ in weekdays to get free texts as well |
15:43.12 | Blapto | Perhaps they're retards. |
15:43.18 | wethrin | I got a message about something similar |
15:43.31 | Blapto | I have never received a text from vodafone on either of my phones, both on a business plan. |
15:43.32 | wethrin | And I thought "WTF? I'm on contract. It makes no difference to me" |
15:43.39 | Mohan | both the messages are contradicting. |
15:59.50 | Mohan | http://www.commandlineidiot.com/blog/2007/linux-users-are-all-crazy-fundamentalists/ |
16:00.27 | Blapto | Idiot should have just used slackware |
16:00.36 | wethrin | Heh |
16:00.49 | wethrin | slackware++ |
16:01.03 | Mohan | or lfs |
16:01.33 | Mohan | he is not happy with any of the available distros |
16:01.35 | Blapto | Heh... "(Debian) has probably the largest user base, which just means that when you have a question, there are 50 arrogant pricks to mock you for being an idiot instead of 6" |
16:01.53 | wethrin | Heh |
16:02.25 | AndyMillar | sounds right |
16:08.10 | Armand|Lappy | or distros, as the too-cool-for-school developers themselves refer to them. distro. rhymes with disco.) |
16:08.19 | Armand|Lappy | knob-jockey ? |
16:09.44 | antiphase | chutney ferret |
16:11.25 | Armand|Lappy | "Admitting that you use Ubunutu is the linux equivalent of putting a spoiler on your Hyundai the only people who think youre cool are other people with spoilers on their Hyundais." HAHAHAHHA |
16:11.29 | Armand|Lappy | \o/ |
16:11.48 | AndyMillar | he didn't mention freebsd :( |
16:12.31 | wethrin | BSD is for people who love Unix. Linux is for people who hate Windows. |
16:12.49 | AndyMillar | I'm going to have to try bsd on this laptop again |
16:13.38 | AndyMillar | but it has issues with my wireless :( |
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16:30.39 | ChoHag | "GNU/Linux is the best. Followed closely by other free software distros such as the BSDs and OpenSolaris, etc" |
16:30.54 | AndyMillar | rubbush, BSD > * ;) |
16:31.14 | ChoHag | Hey I didn't say it. |
16:31.42 | antiphase | BSD is old and crap |
16:31.53 | AndyMillar | antiphase is old and crap! |
16:33.42 | ChoHag | It always amuses me that zealots care so much. |
16:34.41 | ChoHag | "You should use X distribution" is translated in a person's head to "I will provide a lifetime of free support for you to use X". |
16:35.32 | Mohan | Isnt he right with this "Hint: want to start a flamewar in a linux chatroom? Just casually pop in and ask people which distro you should use" |
16:39.33 | AndyMillar | very much so :) |
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21:46.16 | londonmet050 | yo Dis |
21:46.20 | londonmet050 | what's up |
21:46.38 | DiscordianUK | I'm just looking for the Beta of F12 |
21:57.10 | londonmet050 | nice |
21:57.48 | DiscordianUK | Not on the UK mirrors yet |
22:07.32 | londonmet050 | So did you grab it |
22:07.43 | DiscordianUK | Not yet |
22:07.56 | DiscordianUK | It can go overnight |
22:10.52 | londonmet050 | ok |
22:11.21 | DiscordianUK | I'm amazed min RAM for GUI's is still said to be 256Mb |
22:11.33 | DiscordianUK | It's really grim in 256Mb |
22:11.40 | londonmet050 | it is |
22:11.53 | londonmet050 | I got 2gb..still osx sometimes cry |
22:12.08 | DiscordianUK | Which is why I added 1Gb to my laptop this week |
22:12.12 | DiscordianUK | heh |
22:12.22 | londonmet050 | Dis: did you use transtive |
22:12.36 | londonmet050 | I am planning to run solaris for Sparc on VM |
22:12.46 | DiscordianUK | this was from mrmemory |
22:12.46 | Mohan | DiscordianUK: 256mb is fine for getting the gui working |
22:13.01 | londonmet050 | heard you can with the help of trastive |
22:13.04 | DiscordianUK | Yeah but it's slow in 256Mb |
22:13.08 | Mohan | but once you run a app which hogs little memory the whole system will start to cry then |
22:13.52 | DiscordianUK | I run CentOS, Solaris 09/06 and Windows in Vms |
22:14.04 | Mohan | infact you can install gui with 128mb itself :) |
22:14.29 | londonmet050 | i alyah |
22:14.35 | DiscordianUK | Not entirely recommended |
22:14.40 | londonmet050 | but wanna run SPARC |
22:14.44 | Mohan | It worked for me in rhel4, though it complains you should have more ram it would still start. |
22:15.16 | DiscordianUK | yeah but F12 is a bit more bloaty than RHEL4 or 5 |
22:15.27 | londonmet050 | I remember...my first laptop p3 with 128mb ram..runing mandrake 10 |
22:15.38 | DiscordianUK | qemu-sparc might run Solaris/Sparc |
22:15.49 | londonmet050 | emulator? |
22:16.15 | Mohan | DiscordianUK: I am looking for tips to improve performance with high traffic sites. |
22:16.47 | DiscordianUK | Yeah QEMU/KVM is the way forward redHat are persuing re virtualisation |
22:16.58 | DiscordianUK | qemu can do cpus other than x86 |
22:16.59 | Mohan | its a 2 node setup centos5.3/ mysql master-master cluster load balanced setup. |
22:17.58 | Mohan | if you are willing to share any tips, i would really appreciate it. |
22:18.02 | DiscordianUK | do you read data from the masters? |
22:18.28 | DiscordianUK | If so i'd suggest only doing reads from the slave MySQL servers |
22:18.38 | Mohan | its a master/master setup both performs read/write operation |
22:18.46 | DiscordianUK | Depending on how much updates there are |
22:18.54 | Mohan | one of the site runs wordpress |
22:19.13 | Mohan | most of the operations are read though. |
22:19.25 | DiscordianUK | As they are always are |
22:19.36 | DiscordianUK | Which is what LDAP is good for |
22:19.52 | Mohan | the issue is at time the concurrent request reaches >250 and load increases to go over 50++ |
22:20.36 | DiscordianUK | The answer then is slave servers even if they run on different ports on the existing machines |
22:20.44 | DiscordianUK | How many cpus do you have? |
22:21.43 | Mohan | its a dual xeon 2Ghz ,4GB ram machine |
22:21.50 | Mohan | 4 cores in total |
22:22.52 | DiscordianUK | Loadavg > number of cpus is bad |
22:23.50 | Mohan | load is normally under 3 or something like that |
22:24.05 | DiscordianUK | That's fine |
22:24.06 | Mohan | it only happens when there is heavy traffic, |
22:24.36 | DiscordianUK | Is your load balancing really balancing? |
22:24.37 | Mohan | whenever huge traffic hits the machine slows down |
22:24.59 | Mohan | no issues with the load balancer, it uses least busy first alg |
22:25.30 | Mohan | in both the nodes the requests reaches > 250 |
22:25.47 | z00dax | where is the load from ? |
22:25.59 | z00dax | are you running outof cpu or disk or what |
22:26.01 | Mohan | its from search engines, |
22:26.20 | Mohan | these servers promote some form of ad campaign |
22:26.44 | Mohan | so load comes from various sources and its not controllable |
22:26.46 | DiscordianUK | Hmmm I used to run the backend for MSN UK till they took it in house |
22:27.11 | Mohan | what im looking for is something like tips/tricks to optimize apache/mysql |
22:27.45 | DiscordianUK | Oracle ran that happily on a couple of E240s |
22:28.40 | DiscordianUK | RAID is good for situations where Reads greatly exceed writes |
22:29.12 | Mohan | These machines are indeed RAID 1 |
22:30.35 | DiscordianUK | and is it apache or MySQL that slows down the system |
22:31.31 | Mohan | z00dax: i misunderstood your question, apache generates the load |
22:31.57 | Mohan | its like initially apache builds the load and mysql follow it |
22:32.01 | z00dax | yes, but what in apache ? is it waiting for other things to get done ? |
22:32.23 | z00dax | httpd is quite a tuneable stack |
22:33.14 | Mohan | apache queries the db and display the data. |
22:33.54 | Mohan | what i am not sure is the recommended values to be set for mysql |
22:34.30 | DiscordianUK | Well you might want to analyse the queries that MySQL makes |
22:34.31 | Mohan | like the table_cache,buffer_size etc |
22:34.51 | DiscordianUK | And possibly tune the tables by adding or dropping indices |
22:35.21 | DiscordianUK | using the wrong indices can really slow SQL systems down |
22:37.29 | z00dax | are you sure its mysql that is taking up the time |
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22:39.10 | Mohan | z00dax: yeah, its because they store some kind of html query |
22:39.24 | Mohan | which in turn queries the db again |
22:39.37 | DiscordianUK | That sounds sub-optimal |
22:40.02 | Mohan | html cloud is the right term i guess |
22:40.06 | z00dax | right, its also past 4am here so will go sleep now |
22:40.19 | DiscordianUK | Night z00dax |
22:40.31 | Mohan | z00dax: gn |
22:40.42 | z00dax | Mohan: pm ? |
22:46.08 | DiscordianUK | reads the F12 Relnotes |
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23:06.22 | Mohan | Armand|Lappy! |
23:06.31 | Mohan | Armand|Lappy: not sleeping ? |
23:06.54 | Armand|Lappy | Just got back from South Kenton. |
23:07.44 | Mohan | party ? |
23:08.17 | Mohan | Infact i shouldnt be worried about these stuffs |
23:08.25 | Mohan | oops wrong window |
23:08.40 | Armand|Lappy | Nah. I got a PC case off someone. |
23:08.46 | Armand|Lappy | Nice one too. :) |
23:09.23 | Mohan | cool |
23:09.29 | Mohan | whats the config ? |
23:09.53 | Armand|Lappy | full tower atx |
23:10.24 | Mohan | just an empty tower ? |
23:11.49 | Armand|Lappy | yup.. with 2 removeable IDE mounts. |
23:12.43 | Mohan | cool |
23:17.06 | Armand|Lappy | http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=chieftec+dragon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=3kTeSruWAdWr4Qbg65AU&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=7&ved=0CC0QsAQwBg |
23:19.54 | Mohan | Armand|Lappy: looks kinda gaming tower. |
23:19.59 | Armand|Lappy | ^_^ |
23:20.02 | Mohan | but nice one :) |
23:20.08 | Mohan | are you a gamer ? |
23:20.11 | Armand|Lappy | It's a beast of a case. :D |
23:20.13 | Armand|Lappy | Hell yeah |
23:20.26 | Mohan | whats your fav game ? |
23:20.54 | Armand|Lappy | Counter-Strike Source or Medieval 2 |
23:21.48 | Mohan | Its been ages since i have played something like an addict. |
23:21.59 | Armand|Lappy | lol |
23:22.08 | Mohan | but in general i like first person shooting games, MOH, MaxPayne etc.. |
23:22.18 | Armand|Lappy | It's been ages since I played CS:S.. I had my first blast in over a month today. |
23:22.34 | Mohan | but never played any of those what you have mentioned. |
23:22.58 | Armand|Lappy | Max Payne was good.. but that's long gone now. |
23:23.13 | Mohan | I'm a big fan of GTA3++ series |
23:23.49 | Mohan | I've finished both I & II, but of course with limited cheats :D |
23:24.12 | Armand|Lappy | GTA3 = win. |
23:24.14 | Mohan | but those are really good old times. :) |
23:24.18 | Armand|Lappy | I love modded the cars. ;) |
23:24.22 | Armand|Lappy | modding.. |
23:24.38 | Mohan | is a game addict when he studied UG |
23:24.59 | Armand|Lappy | UG ? |
23:25.12 | Mohan | I like the hitnrun concept |
23:25.32 | Mohan | also if you stop a car in a corner with some gal inside it |
23:25.44 | Mohan | the car will start to shake and your life increases :)) |
23:25.52 | Mohan | UG= Under Graduate |
23:26.09 | Armand|Lappy | Ahh |
23:27.23 | Armand|Lappy | I'm gonna clean up this case then mod the fker. :D |
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