IRC log for #gllug on 20091021

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00:36.28DiscordianUKre
00:38.27Armandre-re-rewind... ?
00:39.07DiscordianUKhehe
00:40.08ArmandWhen the crowd says "Fuck off, Craig David!"
00:40.18DiscordianUKheh
01:01.04londonmet050dis: zfs vs ufs
01:01.54DiscordianUKext4fs or btrfs
01:02.10londonmet050which one u will choose
01:02.13londonmet050ny why
01:03.01DiscordianUKI'll stick with ext3fs never lost any data to it in many years
01:03.18londonmet050zfs vs ufs?
01:03.26londonmet050from solaris point
01:06.56DiscordianUKzfs
01:13.35londonmet050why
01:13.43londonmet050Is it much reliable
01:14.02londonmet050please tell us anything from your exp.
01:14.09londonmet050that made you choose zfs
01:15.11DiscordianUKI haven't
01:15.27londonmet050what u havent
01:15.30londonmet050exp.
01:15.31londonmet050?
01:16.33DiscordianUKThere's no zfs for linux
01:17.16DiscordianUKother than fuse-zfs which is userspace
01:18.06londonmet050I am asking about zfs in solaris
01:18.08londonmet050not linux
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05:45.59DiscordianUKGood morning
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09:16.23Mohanmorning!
09:30.35bilarhwhy are security teams always full of mindless robots?
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11:48.14MohanThats because security people should always think different.
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12:03.10bilarhas in "module xxx in apache yyy has a vulnerability" "we're not loading that module" "change apache, or else"?
12:12.45dick_turpinbilarh: :-)
12:13.31bilarh:'(
12:14.29AndyMillarLOL
12:15.20BlaptoWho's that from?
12:15.54BlaptoMost scanning vendors will let you report false positives, we get those from Qualys every so often, I report it and they get resolved within a day or two.
12:17.49bilarhi'm not even allowed to know
12:18.07haliplus they don't understand anything about backporting
12:18.35haliapache httpd 2.2.3 OMG! old bad
12:18.42BlaptoTell your security guys to mark a false positive.
12:19.05haliwe use foundstone, they are generally ok actually
12:19.08bilarhblapto: no, you don't understand.... they don't listen to mere mortals like senior unix admins
12:19.30halifake the server token? :)
12:19.41AndyMillarbilarh: what do they want you to use instead of apache?
12:19.56bilarhthey want me to use the latest version
12:20.05dick_turpinbilarh: Senior? senior? talk about big'ing your part up :-P
12:20.12bilarhthis particular server is on 2.0.63 because that's the latest one our ldap authenticatino works with
12:20.43bilarhdick_turpin: i know, i know... but in my defence, that's what it says in my job title
12:21.47BlaptoHmm, latest versions is a good thing for a security bod.
12:21.50BlaptoBut if it works, it works
12:22.13dick_turpinIf it ain't broke don't fix it
12:24.15BlaptoIf it ain't broke, fix it till it is!
12:24.35AndyMillartbh, it sounds like your ldap aith is broken
12:25.06AndyMillarauth*
12:25.34bilarhwe're authenticating against some god awful external lotus notes database
12:25.43bilarhand with the new authnz_ldap it doesn't work anymore
13:21.38haliwoho, one kick against the man today, our proxy blocks certain wikipedia articles (considered rude)... Fellatio is blocked, but i just noticed the miss-spelling Felatio is not! yeah!
13:21.54halitake that evil HR dept!
13:23.32bilarhstick it to the man :D
13:27.42dick_turpinbilarh: And you know all about that wouldn't you
13:28.14bilarhtrust you to drag the conversation down to the gutter
13:28.32dick_turpinbilarh: Well it was where I met you
13:29.15dick_turpinbilarh: Pimping hard core senior services
13:29.17bilarhyes, when you were coming up from deeper waters
13:29.26bilarhwaters? :S
13:32.25dick_turpincan look at whatever he likes :-)
13:35.37Blaptoruns a socks proxy over ssh
13:40.12halii have and ssh socks proxy too
13:40.14halian*
13:40.15halibut stil
13:40.17halistill*
13:40.22haliit's good to stick it to the man
13:43.08BlaptoWell, I don't think I need it
13:43.10bilarhoccasionally, i like to stick it to the woman too, just for variance
13:43.10BlaptoNothing's blocked
13:43.30BlaptoBut I like to route my msn and irc out via it sometimes.
14:08.08AndyMillarI use bitlbee+irssi+screen for my msn :)
14:08.43AndyMillarno need for proxies then
14:09.11wethrinMe too!
14:09.43AndyMillartbh, i should set my work laptop's reverse dns to be the same as our security guy's :p
14:10.24AndyMillarsee how confused he gets
14:13.40bilarhbitlbee is the shit, actually
14:13.48bilarhseems all us nerds have the same set-up
14:14.00bilarhi've even managed to convert a windows user to putty + screen + bitlbee now :)
14:14.11DiscordianUKI use pidgin for MSN
14:14.26AndyMillarbilarh: s/nerds/clueful people/
14:14.58DiscordianUKwhy thank you
14:15.14bilarhandymillar: same thing :P
14:15.33DiscordianUKI just don't much care for irssi
14:15.50DiscordianUKif i use a CLI client I use epic
14:16.51bilarhthey're all much of muchness imo
14:17.22DiscordianUKI've been using ircII/epic since 1993
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14:25.44BlaptoI, err, use pidgin for everything.
14:25.47BlaptoAt least, at work.
14:26.12Blapto2 x MSN, 2 x Jabber, 2 x IRC, 1 x SIP, 1 x AIM
14:28.04AndyMillari have about 5 bash sessions under screen for all irc/msn :)
14:28.17ChoHag5?
14:28.32wethrin5!?
14:28.37wethrinI have one
14:28.37AndyMillarI run pidgin for work IM though - as that stays with work
14:28.44wethrinA second one for mutt
14:28.50AndyMillari like to keep a separate irssi for each irc network :)
14:28.58wethrinWhy?
14:29.05wethrin(actually, that's a genuine question)
14:29.25AndyMillarit's just an eaiser way of keeping them separate
14:29.40ChoHagMy certificate has finally arrived.
14:30.09BlaptoHow long have you been clean?
14:30.21ChoHagLong enough that it doesn't show up on here :)
14:33.18halione of the things  i like best with irssi is it's way to handle multiple ircnets
14:34.54bilarhyeah that's pretty neat
14:38.20AndyMillarit is, but I just like the separation
14:40.46bilarhahem, i'm not sure if you're allowed a personal preference different to that of the hive
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