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| 09:39.25 | Mohan | morning |
| 09:42.48 | bilarh | no |
| 09:43.52 | hali | Good Morning |
| 09:44.54 | Blapto | Certainly not. |
| 09:46.27 | hali | very much so |
| 09:46.41 | hali | im having a nice coffee and am installing very soothing nagios plugins |
| 09:47.30 | Blapto | We're ditching nagios for nimbus here. |
| 09:47.39 | Blapto | I'll miss nagio |
| 09:47.41 | Blapto | nagios |
| 09:49.27 | Mohan | that looks like a windows based monitoring solution ? |
| 09:50.09 | Blapto | It'll monitor practically anything. |
| 09:50.15 | Blapto | As long as there's probe software |
| 09:58.11 | bilarh | blapto: does it come with one of these: http://www.southparkclub.com/pix/season1/Cartman%20Gets%20an%20Anal%20Probe/1.jpg |
| 09:58.30 | Blapto | Much bigger than that |
| 09:58.37 | bilarh | ace :D |
| 10:14.55 | hali | Blapto: any idea how much nimbus costs? |
| 10:20.24 | Blapto | hali: no idea, sorry |
| 10:23.56 | ChoHag | "The root password must be at least 6 characters long" |
| 10:24.07 | ChoHag | Bollocks it must. |
| 10:25.08 | Blapto | Try again with the same password, it'll normally stop pestering you after 1 nag. |
| 10:27.28 | ChoHag | Meh. I just set it to aoeuid. |
| 10:27.40 | ChoHag | I can change it to 'none' like I want when the system is installed. |
| 10:41.07 | cpufreak | 9what are you installing? |
| 10:44.49 | ChoHag | centos |
| 10:45.43 | cpufreak | no, what system are you installing? if its anything other than a desktop it should be using cobbler, and thus a standard build, and standard password |
| 10:46.27 | ChoHag | Oh. A vm to play with. |
| 10:46.35 | ChoHag | Locally. |
| 10:51.40 | ChoHag | antiphase/cpufreak: What server can I use to print from Linux? |
| 10:52.55 | antiphase | You can do it from your desk |
| 10:53.00 | antiphase | There's a printer caled IT1 behind you |
| 10:53.16 | cpufreak | talk to skywalker, the print server, via windows print wah |
| 10:53.36 | cpufreak | ISBW is a better B&W printer, over by the watercooler |
| 10:53.40 | ChoHag | No IPP? That's a lot easier. |
| 10:53.50 | cpufreak | no, and that was intentional |
| 10:53.54 | cpufreak | as 95% of staff run windows |
| 10:54.04 | cpufreak | and it enables access to the colour printers to be restricted. |
| 10:54.13 | cpufreak | based on your windows login |
| 10:54.15 | ChoHag | They're not mutually exclusive... |
| 10:59.32 | cpufreak | enabling IPP would enable people to print to the colour printers, without restriction. |
| 10:59.43 | cpufreak | so yes in a way they are mutually exclusive. |
| 10:59.55 | cpufreak | there's more to how things work than technical reasons sometimes. |
| 11:00.04 | ChoHag | IPP can be authenticated can't it? |
| 11:00.31 | cpufreak | why double the amount of work for a small percentage of users who can just use windows based printer protocols anyway |
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| 11:23.58 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: because autodescovery of ipp printers via cups is awesomely easy |
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| 11:24.44 | ChoHag | Probably isn't for windows admins. |
| 11:25.27 | AndyMillar | who cares about windows admins? :-p |
| 11:26.59 | ChoHag | They've given me my laptop at last. |
| 11:27.29 | ChoHag | It's amazing how good Microsoft are at sucking up the resources of modern computers and helping us relive the 80s experience. |
| 11:30.25 | AndyMillar | idd :) |
| 11:33.43 | cpufreak | er? microsoft actually make the best enterprise products out there |
| 11:34.12 | cpufreak | people whinge about outlook and exchange, but compare it to open source tosh like zimbra its brilliant, and works really well across an enterprise. |
| 11:34.14 | Mohan | if its a default logrotate only on sunday morning 4.30 it rotates the logs. |
| 11:34.21 | Mohan | oops wrong channel |
| 11:34.57 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: microsoft make a lot of crap software |
| 11:35.21 | AndyMillar | *however* Exchange is the best collaboration (read: mail, contacts, calendar) software out there by a mile |
| 11:35.43 | bilarh | i like outlook + exchange |
| 11:35.50 | bilarh | i don't understand why everyone seems to have a problem with it |
| 11:35.53 | AndyMillar | Windows (XP|Vista|7) is dire |
| 11:36.01 | bilarh | and i like vista too :) |
| 11:36.14 | AndyMillar | Office doesn't use sensible standards and is bloated and crashes (well, so does open office :p) |
| 11:36.52 | AndyMillar | in general I do dislike M$ crap, but Exchange is fantastic |
| 11:36.55 | cpufreak | Windows 7 is brilliant. |
| 11:37.01 | cpufreak | its really fast and memory efficient |
| 11:37.03 | AndyMillar | so much so that I've even bought it |
| 11:38.11 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: so's freebsd and Ubuntu though |
| 11:38.11 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: my other complaint about Zimbra is that it's actually more expensive to run than Exchange |
| 11:38.11 | AndyMillar | especially as licensing costs are *higher* and the hardware requirements are *higher* |
| 11:38.38 | AndyMillar | grmbls about atp liking zimbra |
| 11:39.03 | antiphase | Adenosine tri-phosphate ? |
| 11:39.35 | antiphase | Outlook is fucking dreadfully broken and appalling for mail, but overall there's no competition |
| 11:40.42 | AndyMillar | antiphase: Andy Phillips |
| 11:40.57 | AndyMillar | (there is only one atp) |
| 11:41.39 | ChoHag | Is it its speed and memory efficiency that made me take about 5 minutes to boot and log in on this superfast new dell with crazy amounts of ram? |
| 11:42.09 | ChoHag | Also - do I really have to install something extra to get a bog standard start menu? |
| 11:45.30 | ChoHag | GAH! And it still makes bloody noises. |
| 11:56.23 | boudiccas | ChoHag, sounds like you have a love-hate relationship with your computer? you love it and it hates you :)))))) |
| 11:56.40 | ChoHag | No. I hate it back. |
| 11:56.46 | boudiccas | lol |
| 11:57.14 | boudiccas | what OS are you running on it? |
| 11:57.23 | ChoHag | The laptop has windows 7. |
| 11:57.32 | ChoHag | And it can keep it as far as I'm concerned. |
| 11:58.04 | boudiccas | another happy MS customer :) |
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| 13:32.55 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You're not gonna believe today's story |
| 13:33.06 | ChoHag | Did the cows come home? |
| 13:33.14 | boudiccas | go on tell us, pretty please |
| 13:33.52 | dick_turpin | "Hello I know its not strictly work related but I cant get on my daughters facebook page" |
| 13:34.12 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:34.22 | dick_turpin | Your telling me its not covered under maintenance, go on whats the name |
| 13:34.24 | boudiccas | <grins> |
| 13:34.54 | dick_turpin | 1 sec delivery Grrrrr |
| 13:35.18 | boudiccas | times up! please continue with your narrative |
| 13:35.21 | boudiccas | :) |
| 13:35.31 | dick_turpin | "The name is easychic" |
| 13:35.35 | dick_turpin | WTF? |
| 13:35.43 | bilarh | ! |
| 13:35.51 | dick_turpin | "Yes I know terrible isn't it?" |
| 13:36.07 | bilarh | sharpens his ears |
| 13:36.18 | dick_turpin | Hm I'll definitely help you now |
| 13:36.43 | dick_turpin | Are you sure its easychic? |
| 13:37.01 | dick_turpin | "Yes try easychick15" |
| 13:37.06 | dick_turpin | Nope |
| 13:37.21 | dick_turpin | "Well thats what she said it was" |
| 13:37.41 | dick_turpin | So about 3/5 an hour later the phone goes |
| 13:37.50 | dick_turpin | Hi there |
| 13:38.32 | dick_turpin | "Yes you have to type xxxxx@yahoo.co.uk then type easychick" |
| 13:39.10 | dick_turpin | Thats the user name and password you stupid bitch! |
| 13:39.25 | Blapto | You measure your hours in 12 minute long segments? |
| 13:39.46 | boudiccas | lol |
| 13:40.02 | dick_turpin | Blapto: Go away, you know what I meant :-) |
| 13:40.32 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Don't laugh these are the sorts of morons I have to deal with at lunch time |
| 13:41.23 | boudiccas | write them all down so that you can write a book of them, and make some money from your stories |
| 13:42.28 | boudiccas | thats what i'm going to do with all my nursing anecdotes |
| 13:46.55 | ChoHag | "... on a scale of 1.0 to 7.9" |
| 13:47.38 | ChoHag | Is that MS's bizarre understanding of base 8 perhaps? |
| 13:59.49 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I do have some of them problem is nobody will buy the book as they will not believe any of the story's |
| 14:46.21 | dick_turpin | bilarh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_R_JSiupzo sfw |
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| 19:25.32 | DiscordianUK | Well I'd been running Coherent before that and IX/386 |
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