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| 01:17.30 | AndyMillar | gambling companies 1, bankers 0 |
| 01:17.56 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: man of epic proportions tried to start some form of fight as I left, his gf stopped it \o/ |
| 01:19.18 | DiscordianUK | Sounds like a good night |
| 01:20.51 | AndyMillar | DiscordianUK: i'm 6'5 and 125kg |
| 01:20.55 | AndyMillar | this guy dwarfd me |
| 01:21.04 | DiscordianUK | hehehe |
| 01:21.43 | AndyMillar | but yes, it was fairly entertaining |
| 01:22.02 | DiscordianUK | I'm sure |
| 01:23.54 | AndyMillar | we also showed some banking friends of mine (well, a friend and his colleague) that bankers can't take their alcohol :-p |
| 01:25.05 | AndyMillar | so all in all, it was a successful night :) |
| 01:25.52 | DiscordianUK | thought as the song goes Saturday night was the night for fighting |
| 01:27.20 | AndyMillar | DiscordianUK: i'm too old for that ;p |
| 01:28.44 | DiscordianUK | is too old for most things |
| 01:29.03 | DiscordianUK | and I never was a fighter |
| 01:29.23 | AndyMillar | is from fighting heritige though :p |
| 01:29.50 | DiscordianUK | heh |
| 01:29.52 | AndyMillar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jem_Mace |
| 01:30.42 | DiscordianUK | oh right |
| 01:31.06 | AndyMillar | the father of modern boxing I'll have you know ;) |
| 01:31.41 | DiscordianUK | I'll take your word for it |
| 01:31.55 | AndyMillar | i think, now, I shall go obtain sleep :) |
| 01:32.20 | DiscordianUK | Good night |
| 01:32.25 | AndyMillar | nn :) |
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| 11:15.53 | ext4_doubt | on a FRESH ubuntu 9.10 install would there be a problem if i format / /usr /var as ext4 but have /home as ext3? i mean, has anyone here done that and did not suffer any performance problems or stability issues?? |
| 11:16.55 | AndyMillar | ext4_doubt: that should be fine :) |
| 11:17.11 | ext4_doubt | have YOU done it? |
| 11:17.58 | AndyMillar | no, I actually run my /home as ext3 ontop of lvm ontop of luks/dm_crypt instead :) |
| 11:18.17 | AndyMillar | if you partition yiou |
| 11:18.39 | AndyMillar | if you partition your disk properly, you'll have no trouble at all (and no problem) with / being ext4 and /home being ext3 |
| 11:23.18 | cpufreak | I made it to the tyre fitters |
| 11:23.21 | cpufreak | car has new boots now |
| 11:23.23 | AndyMillar | \o/ |
| 11:23.31 | AndyMillar | how're you feeling? |
| 11:23.36 | cpufreak | awesome.. wet roads, new tyres = no traction |
| 11:23.46 | cpufreak | alright now, felt ropey as fuck at 8:30 when my alarm went off. |
| 11:24.16 | AndyMillar | how much tyre did you kill on the roads on the way home then? ;) |
| 11:24.56 | cpufreak | not much, as no friction |
| 11:25.21 | cpufreak | just would spin comicly with no effort |
| 11:25.26 | AndyMillar | lol |
| 11:25.29 | AndyMillar | awesome |
| 11:26.40 | AndyMillar | I feel strangely ok... my suit looks in bad health though :p |
| 11:27.23 | AndyMillar | it might, actually, be machine washable though <3 |
| 11:33.01 | AndyMillar | crap, have to be out of here in 10 mins :( |
| 11:33.16 | cpufreak | why? |
| 11:34.14 | AndyMillar | sushi with a colleague, then buy white face paint, then dress up as something vampirish again for $house_party |
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| 13:49.36 | PcSett | Greetings - forgive my BIG smile, remembering how to get here was quite a feat for me. :) |
| 13:49.47 | AndyMillar | :-) |
| 13:49.50 | DiscordianUK | Good afternoon |
| 13:51.35 | PcSett | Hi again and thank you. I'll sit, wait and watch for words I understand - I'm patient! ;-) |
| 13:52.04 | DiscordianUK | Lol |
| 13:52.32 | DiscordianUK | Well it's still mostly linux here |
| 13:54.41 | PcSett | Now THAT I understand. As I am and have been for some years now - about Suze 10 time? I'm running Debian Lenny on 64bit right now. |
| 13:54.57 | DiscordianUK | is running Fedora 11 |
| 13:56.11 | PcSett | I installed that distro last week and it was wonderful. I'd have kept it if I could have figured out how to get rid of the omnipresent US dictionary! |
| 13:56.36 | DiscordianUK | heh |
| 13:58.19 | DiscordianUK | I have old PCs so still 32 bit |
| 13:59.52 | PcSett | i'm happy to relate that I return a little of my debt to the creators of Linux, etc, by utilising the ancient skills of the reading room for non-English speakers in Europe. A bit. but it helps, I understand. My reactions are slow (I'm 75) so I've just read that last bit. My kit was 32-bit when bought, but I learned from Debian Fora that Lennie 64 bit would run - and it did! |
| 14:01.41 | DiscordianUK | My desktop box does 64 bit but not the laptop |
| 14:02.41 | PcSett | My stroke-knackered hand debars the use of a lap-top (I'm happy to say). |
| 14:03.33 | DiscordianUK | My feet are knackered through diabetic necropathy but I do find the laptop useful |
| 14:04.36 | DiscordianUK | It never leaves the house though |
| 14:05.14 | PcSett | Now that sounds like a good description of windoze - but as my legs aren't up to much either I probably share a frustration with you in not being able to attend GLLUG meets. |
| 14:05.46 | DiscordianUK | Not been to one in around 5 years |
| 14:06.32 | PcSett | Excuse me a moment - my SWMBO has just entered my office - with tea. Must stop for a while! |
| 14:06.42 | DiscordianUK | Sure |
| 14:17.23 | PcSett | Hi again - cuppa to hand, nice crisp apple too. Now, about the ability to speak to one and other across the old Smoke. i'm thinking how useful this is, especially in promoting the use of Linux, etc. :) |
| 14:18.31 | DiscordianUK | Or even further |
| 14:19.28 | PcSett | Well yeah - as a lifelong trade unionist and activist, I agree!;-) |
| 14:19.37 | DiscordianUK | has just had a bowl of soup |
| 14:20.38 | DiscordianUK | I had a long history as a trade unionist/socialist activist |
| 14:21.36 | PcSett | OK - what game - mine was print? |
| 14:21.56 | DiscordianUK | Local government, IT |
| 14:22.58 | DiscordianUK | I remdember hot metal print though |
| 14:23.41 | PcSett | Yup, useful guys/guyesses on may an occasion - especially in '72. Blimey, that's a while ago! And I've just read your last line - I've got a 30 point Gill Bold N atop my tower. |
| 14:24.06 | DiscordianUK | Heh |
| 14:25.13 | PcSett | My dream is to visit the old composing room set up in Ironbridge and set type by hand in the OLD WAY. |
| 14:25.14 | DiscordianUK | I nearly got into print IT at somewhere that was going from hot metal to a system hosted on a PDP-11 |
| 14:25.37 | DiscordianUK | But I did local government instead |
| 14:26.50 | DiscordianUK | I remember going round the hot metal shops |
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| 14:27.56 | PcSett | This is going to bore some of these younkers out of their heads, but I can recall going for an interview when I worked for a hot metal printers in Worcester to e brand-new film-setters in Caerphilly. A great leap - but still quite few years until I was handling output from digitised processes. |
| 14:28.35 | DiscordianUK | This was circa 78-79 |
| 14:30.16 | PcSett | Yeah - I ended up in the reading room - Head Reader, me. VERY proud of it too. Utter, absolute boss of all I surveyed. Quite useful when you're FoC too! |
| 14:30.32 | DiscordianUK | Lol |
| 14:31.05 | DiscordianUK | Tiring work that |
| 14:31.13 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: have you uploaded antiphase's confession? :-) |
| 14:31.50 | DiscordianUK | confession? |
| 14:32.17 | antiphase | Ha ha |
| 14:33.57 | AndyMillar | DiscordianUK: antiphase left early and made a rather revealing confession |
| 14:36.27 | DiscordianUK | Oh |
| 14:36.41 | PcSett | More, more! |
| 14:40.19 | PcSett | Ah well - I'd better go. I have much appreciated these contacts today and will attempt to remake them another day. Be well, take care, byee |
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| 15:01.16 | AndyMillar | dear god "daytime" tv sucks |
| 15:04.42 | DiscordianUK | Yep |
| 15:04.55 | DiscordianUK | I only get BBc1-Ch4 |
| 15:05.37 | AndyMillar | me too :) |
| 15:06.35 | DiscordianUK | Tis annoying back in London my USB Freeview got 50 odd channels |
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| 15:22.20 | AndyMillar | hmm, perhaps i should get freeview |
| 15:23.06 | DiscordianUK | It was handy up here signal is too poor |
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| 15:32.00 | cityOfLights | hi all, anyone alive here? |
| 15:33.04 | teatime| | cityOfLights: no, I terminal in from meatspace |
| 15:33.25 | cityOfLights | hmm |
| 15:33.55 | cityOfLights | ok, I am teaching kids programing. they will get a linux netbook |
| 15:34.27 | cityOfLights | how can I demonstrate their ability to change the OS as they can't do in a windows pc? |
| 15:36.02 | teatime| | cityOfLights: as in you want to teach them to install a different OS? |
| 15:36.57 | cityOfLights | teatime|: No, I need to present a good argument to use linux |
| 15:37.23 | cityOfLights | well I just wnat them to see they can do something COOL they can't do in windows |
| 15:37.33 | antiphase | Anything wrong with dual-boot? |
| 15:38.00 | cityOfLights | hi antiphase, so long since I was here... |
| 15:38.10 | teatime| | if you have to fool users with bling to get them into your way of thinking and onto your system, you are no worse than SCO or MS |
| 15:38.27 | cityOfLights | no no no |
| 15:38.31 | teatime| | or Apple |
| 15:39.11 | cityOfLights | when the kids signed up to this program they get 20 leassons and a netbook |
| 15:39.34 | cityOfLights | to make it affordable it was decided to install linux on the netbooks |
| 15:39.34 | teatime| | to do what on the netbooks? |
| 15:39.40 | teatime| | ah right |
| 15:39.41 | cityOfLights | as they will use kturtle |
| 15:40.01 | cityOfLights | to understand basic geometry and algorithems |
| 15:41.27 | cityOfLights | so obviusly the first thing kids ask when they see their brand new laptop is "why aint it running windows" |
| 15:41.42 | cityOfLights | and the argument of $$ doens stick with them |
| 15:41.47 | teatime| | and you say "because windows is for suckers and the elderly" |
| 15:42.35 | cityOfLights | NO this is a wrong approch |
| 15:43.16 | cityOfLights | I want them to understand that open source means they can take part in the software they run |
| 15:43.28 | cityOfLights | thus they will want to learn how to write code... |
| 15:45.26 | teatime| | I dunno. I would maybe say that it comes with the tools to write code |
| 15:46.36 | AndyMillar | cityOfLights: teach them kernel hacking ;) |
| 15:46.48 | cityOfLights | o come on andy |
| 15:47.11 | AndyMillar | hmm, how old kids? |
| 15:47.22 | cityOfLights | 11-10 |
| 15:47.39 | teatime| | I was messing around with an amiga A500+ when I was 11 |
| 15:47.49 | cityOfLights | me 2 |
| 15:47.50 | teatime| | your kids are getting younger? |
| 15:48.11 | cityOfLights | maybe multi desktops |
| 15:50.02 | AndyMillar | hmm, i wonder how hard it'd be to code a gnome widgit |
| 15:50.05 | AndyMillar | widget* |
| 15:52.19 | AndyMillar | as that'd be a very visual and rewarding experience |
| 16:02.08 | cityOfLights | right |
| 16:02.10 | cityOfLights | 10x |
| 16:05.48 | AndyMillar | mmh, quiche and berocca :) |
| 16:06.15 | DiscordianUK | heh |
| 16:13.35 | teatime| | ponders at /proc/cpu |
| 16:13.41 | teatime| | hmm I think the bios is fighting back |
| 16:13.58 | teatime| | cupinfo* |
| 16:38.16 | DiscordianUK | i didn't get my own computer till I was 35 |
| 16:38.28 | DiscordianUK | It was a PDP-8/L |
| 16:41.42 | cpufreak | isn't that only because they didn't exist before then? :P |
| 16:42.47 | DiscordianUK | computers existed before I was born but they lived in dinosaur pens |
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| 19:22.05 | AndyMillar | hmm, we left a minute early |
| 19:22.23 | DiscordianUK | ? |
| 19:22.32 | AndyMillar | train |
| 19:24.38 | AndyMillar | uses them a lot :( |
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| 19:33.47 | DiscordianUK | I used to as I don't drive |
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