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00:29.51lampuseryo dis
00:30.03lampuserhave you seen BBC stunt on hot spos
00:30.07lampuser*spots
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01:06.02AndyMillarlampuser: which one?
01:06.41lampuserhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/watchdog/2009/10/wifi_hot_spots_not_secure.html
01:07.00AndyMillarah, yes
01:07.35AndyMillar"use https(tm)"
01:08.18AndyMillari saw that on tv the other day
01:08.50lampuseryah...
01:09.05lampuserwhy does BBC make this like too big
01:09.17AndyMillarbecause most people are idiots
01:11.05lampuserThat script kiddie is ironic
01:14.34z00daxpats his openvpn setup
01:14.56DiscordianUKOpenVPN is very easy to get going
01:14.58AndyMillarrunning everything over https and ssh ftw
01:17.36lampuserIs that commerical product
01:17.38lampuseror free
01:19.52z00daxopenvpn is free.
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01:20.10z00daxalso, ssh -D works as a fairly well done tunnel as well
01:20.36AndyMillarall depends on if your (vpn) endpoint is secure
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08:18.10DiscordianMorning
08:37.19Mohanmorning all
09:25.22bilarhi saw one of these today: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Z1
09:25.24bilarhlooks sweet :D
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09:57.59ChoHagAah ruby.
09:58.24ChoHag'in `method_missing': Cannot find Name for name (NameError)'
09:58.36ChoHagWell mostly chef, but ruby's not totally innocent.
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10:28.41DiscordianUKMorn
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11:22.45AndyMillarmornin
11:23.40DiscordianUKMorn
12:04.00CopeLeeds: ping
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12:13.45ChoHagSuccess!
12:19.59dick_turpinbilarh: Afternoon young man
12:33.35bilarhdick_turpin: get lost, grand dad
12:34.42dick_turpinbilarh: Charming, see try and be civil and that's what you get
12:34.57bilarhflicks dick_turpin the bird
12:35.19bilarhdick_turpin: how's the weekend?
12:35.32bilarhdid you get lots of little annoying brats ring on your door bell begging?
12:36.40dick_turpinNow that's a funny story
12:36.59dick_turpinA few years ago I made the mistake of giving money
12:37.28dick_turpinOf course they was busing the little Chav bastards in from all over the UK
12:37.36bilarhhehe :)
12:38.15dick_turpinSo I had to pick the misses up from work, I live in a cul-de-sac
12:38.39dick_turpinAs we came to turn into our RD I saw some shits on the corner
12:39.04dick_turpinAs I drove up to my house I could see them legging up the RD
12:39.48dick_turpinThey missed out all the houses we tried to get out the motor quick and into the house
12:40.23dick_turpinBut up they came out of breath "Trick or treat baldy"
12:40.39bilarhhehe :D
12:40.42dick_turpinI told them to piss off
12:40.47bilarhthat's funny :D
12:42.36dick_turpinbilarh: So any one come home to find their misses in bed with the Bexely Heath rugby club at the weekend?
12:43.04bilarhumm.... no? :)
12:44.17dick_turpinPity I was hoping to give a repeat performance of Friday, not feeling too well at the minute so I see no reason why anyone else should be feeling good
12:46.56AndyMillardick_turpin: is that a womens rugby club?
12:48.37bilarhhehe :)
12:51.44dick_turpinAndyMillar: Its a thought
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12:59.00LeedsCope: pong?
13:13.10CopeLeeds: wanted to pick your brains on a bit of python
13:13.33Leedssure, try me
13:16.09Leedsincidentally, anyone ever come across http://www.onemanstarwars.com - been at Edinburgh once or twice, by the sound of things
13:17.15Copeso I have a series of tasks to carry out, which are currently ant scripts - some http gets, some rsyncs, some remote exec tasks, various bits and bobs
13:18.16Copejust wanted to brainstorm design - whether i should create a Manager class, and do teh tasks in a object oriented way, or just a series of steps
13:18.21Copethe former seems nicer to me
13:19.32Leedsdepends on how generic you need it to be, I suppose
13:22.11Leedsif it's just a series of steps, it might as well be a shell script...
13:24.41Copewell there are a large number of machines it needs to run against
13:24.51Copewith slightly different parameters
13:28.34dick_turpinbilarh: Just seen a picture of you and your 'bit on the side' http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=6040
13:29.06bilarhi'm not clicking that link at work
13:29.17dick_turpinIts safe
13:29.30dick_turpinyour reputation is not
13:29.51wethrinhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXLN8hmXUdM # SFW if you wear headphones
13:33.01dick_turpinwethrin: No story's yet :-(
13:33.29wethrinboo
13:34.06dick_turpinwethrin: Did you read the "Trick or Treat" one earlier?
13:34.51dick_turpin(12:40:02)
13:34.54wethrinmmmm
13:34.58wethrinchavs--
13:35.03dick_turpinyep
13:35.21wethrinEvilDave has some cheap lager to give to trick-or-treaters
13:35.36dick_turpinhahaha
13:39.50Leedshttp://ofaurax.free.fr/blog/index.php5/2009-10-31-00h31-0100.xml - believable?
14:03.18dick_turpinFook-in-ell One of our Engineers is sticking W7 on a machine for me, just went to see how things are going and he was mapping drives when I noticed C: was red and only had 2GB of free space "wtf is going on there then?" erm its a 40GB drive "Well that's no good is it?" erm do you want me to put a bigger drive in? "wtf do you think?" Jesus H I ask you.
14:15.55AndyMillarawesome
14:20.07ChoHagHow did he manage to use 38GB?
14:21.03dick_turpinChrist knows
14:22.13ChoHagThis W7 box I've been given has 17GB used.
14:22.52ChoHagHeh. C:/Windows is more than half of it - 9GB
14:24.13Leedswhere the fsck do you get a 40GB drive from?
14:24.29dick_turpinI've no idea what he's up to, giving me some cock and bull about cab files
14:26.43dick_turpinThank god he did not try and use the 4GB HDD I found earlier
14:27.01wethrinWell, the cab files might take up a couple of gig
14:27.15z00daxI doubt a 4gb hdd would work with any interface to be found on a modern day machine
14:27.36z00daxalthough, i do remember a 5Gb disk that i used with pata
14:27.52dick_turpinz00dax: Got loads of old Mboards, CPU's ect
14:28.20dick_turpinHave got 200 odd CDROM drives that nobody wants
14:28.25ChoHag4GB would be IDE or SCSI.
14:28.29dick_turpinAnd Floppy Drives
14:28.32ChoHagDo they not count as modern?
14:28.37wethrindick_turpin: USB floppy drives?
14:28.54wethrinIDE CD drives can be chucked. SCSI CD drives could be ebayed
14:28.59dick_turpinwethrin: Bwahahahaha (Answer your question?)
14:29.07wethrinYes.
14:29.09z00daxChoHag: yeah, i guess pata/ide are still around on some mobo's
14:29.20wethrinthat z00dax is just *so* modern :)
14:29.37z00daxyay
14:29.51dick_turpinz00dax: Snob ;-)
14:29.57wethrinRoight. What was I doing.....
14:30.02wethrinoh yes, procrastinating.
14:33.16AndyMillarany of you lot seen an ubuntu installer get stuck on "initializing cgroup subsys freezer"?
14:33.21AndyMillarduring the first kernel boot
14:34.11antiphaseAll drives with integral electronics are IDE
14:43.03ChoHagI'm happy to say I've not seen an Ubuntu installer in a while.
14:44.56dick_turpinThe doughnut has now managed to get 21GB free Sheesh!
14:47.15wethrinDeleted porn off there?
14:47.32dick_turpinwethrin: I bleedin hope not
14:47.44wethrinWell, you have backups, surely?
14:48.06dick_turpinwethrin: have you any idea how long it takes to get a Shetland pony up the stairs?
14:48.27wethrinDepends how wide the stairs are
14:48.57dick_turpinPlus I have my extensive collection of Brazen Ferrets
14:49.38ChoHagWhy do I always get covered in food when I eat?
14:50.27dick_turpinis very tempted to say something
14:51.59AndyMillarChoHag: yeah well, I need it to work :p
14:53.09ChoHagDoes it still work to install Debian stable and 'up'grade to ubuntu?
14:53.32ChoHagNot that it would necessarily help you, I'm just curious.
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15:16.16AndyMillarnever tried that
15:25.31ChoHaghttp://failblog.org/2008/11/24/welsh-fail/
15:34.10wethrinOld news
15:41.13ChoHagNearly a year in fact.
15:41.16ChoHagNo less funny for it.
16:23.46AndyMillarhmm, i appear to (personally) get 3.5k messages a month
16:23.49AndyMillarthis is worrying
16:24.24wethrinAre they mostly unimportant rubbish?
16:26.10ChoHagHow much email or other messages are not mostly unimportant rubbish?
16:26.53wethrinHardly any
16:32.54ChoHag"Please you are to follow the Below information to Validate YourMailbox And Increase Your Quota"
16:33.04wethrin<delete>
16:33.04ChoHagYeah sure...
16:35.23AndyMillarwethrin: no spam :p
16:36.04wethrinI didn't ask how much was spam :-)
16:36.16AndyMillara lot of it is logwatches and stuff :)
16:36.23wethrinSo unimportant rubbish
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17:49.46z00daxwethrin: I seem to have lost ACL's to the gllug website :)
17:50.09wethrinErm. I've not removed any!
17:50.24wethrinI don't remember my login details
17:50.46wethrinOh, but my browser does
17:51.28wethrinz00dax: Your username is "Karanbir Singh". Don't know your password, though
17:51.44z00daxah, that helps.
17:51.54z00daxwill add some info on -social meeting there later today.
17:52.04z00daxguess something moderately recent would be good.
17:52.07wethrinokies
18:18.34AndyMillarhmm, we've printed 2.84 trees since $company started
18:21.08wethrinThat's not very many
18:22.35AndyMillar~230k pages
18:25.15AndyMillar-> home
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