IRC log for #gllug on 20091110

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01:59.32DiscordianUKwb
01:59.48Armandtorcs killed my session. >_<
02:03.48Armandmeh, gonna go to bed.
02:03.50Armandgnite
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08:13.58AndyMillarmornin
08:22.22ChoHagMorning.
08:29.37Copemoin
08:33.07ChoHagI have spam telling me to stop contacting spammers.
08:46.10AndyMillarlol
09:01.23halimorning
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09:24.29mindbendrmorning
09:24.44DiscordianUKning
10:07.47ChoHagfvwm and xrandr don't want to get along :(
10:08.17DiscordianUKdare I ask which distro?
10:08.24ChoHagDebian.
10:08.37DiscordianUKah
10:08.41ChoHagI think it's confused.
10:08.53DiscordianUKIsn't it always
10:09.06ChoHagWhat ever's on screen $this+1 appears on the right viewport.
10:09.52DiscordianUKI'm not convinced fvwm has pukka support for more than one screen
10:10.11antiphaseThat's because people couldn't afford two CRT monitors in 1993
10:10.16ChoHagIt doesn't.
10:10.27ChoHagYeah and fvwm devs think it's still 1993.
10:10.36ChoHagUnfortunately all other WMs suck a lot more.
10:10.41DiscordianUKwhy not use say Gnome?
10:10.51ChoHagHahahahaha
10:11.02antiphaseChicks that were born when fvwm came out are legal now
10:11.08ChoHagWait were you serious?
10:11.19DiscordianUKyes I'm very serious
10:11.32ChoHagWell, no.
10:11.53ChoHagDespite a 1993-era WM I like my computer to feel as though it's less than 15 years old.
10:14.49wethrinafterstep / windowmaker
10:14.52wethrinYou know it makes sense :)
10:14.53antiphaseevilwm
10:15.07ChoHagantiphase: That's the first alternative I saw.
10:15.37wethrinAnyway, surely it's more that people who *could* afford two CRT monitors in 1993 weren't going to be using Linux
10:15.48DiscordianUKlikes CDE shame they're dropping it in Solaris 10
10:16.00LeedsCDfuckingE
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10:30.39mindbendrwhat's wrong with gnome?
10:31.18DiscordianUKnothing
10:56.27AndyMillarit's cold being sat out in your garden
11:01.28ChoHagWell don't do that then.
11:12.41wethrinGnome's problem is that it's designed by people who think brown and grey makes a nice colour scheme
11:15.19ChoHagWhen it should of course be black and green.
11:15.42zeroXtenmeh, my gnome is black and green :)
11:16.24ChoHagBut you didn't design gnome.
11:19.23zeroXtenthat is true
11:23.11mindbendrwethrin: that argument does make MS awesome
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11:23.53wethrinWell, excuse them for hiring UI designers :-P
11:31.33ChoHagYeah it's amazing what you get out of people when you pay them.
11:43.23wethrinI know
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11:46.48antiphaseBlack and green is for n00bs who are hardly old enough to remember monochrome screens before the environmentalists got in there with their trivalent chromium bans
12:05.12ChoHag"The lack of any backdoor has been a concern to the UK Home Office,[16] which tried entering into talks with Microsoft to get one introduced, though was unsuccessful in having one added."
12:05.17ChoHagGood.
12:05.19ChoHagBastards.
12:05.33wethrinwhat what, Microsoft doing something right? SHURELY NOT!!!
12:05.39wethrinbuggers off to do real work
12:05.48ChoHagI guess we overtook the US in the "land of the 'free'" stakes.
12:05.52ChoHagMeh. It's lunchtime.
12:19.47antiphaseo/` Whoever told you that is your enemy o/`
12:20.29ChoHagantiphase: Do you have any spare headphones?
12:20.37ChoHagAnd music.
12:21.31antiphaseNot here I don't
12:21.45antiphaseThere's a shopping centre up the street
12:21.47antiphaseHTH :P
12:21.54ChoHagYeah maybe.
12:22.01ChoHagIf I'm going to buy some though I want good ones.
12:23.36ChoHagI'm trying to decide if there's a reason not to nuke this laptop's windows partition and fill it full of MP3s.
12:23.44ChoHagI can't think of any.
12:25.22DiscordianUKSounds like a win unless it violates corporate policy
12:25.34ChoHagI'm not sure what corporate policy is.
12:25.49ChoHagAnd besides there's a citrix server I have access to.
12:25.51ChoHagTwo, actually.
12:26.11DiscordianUKand of course if you have a PRS licence for the site
12:26.24antiphaseHa ha
12:26.46ChoHagYeah I have one of them...
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12:27.13DiscordianUKExcellent
12:29.15dick_turpinWhat no morsing?
12:29.36ChoHagNo no no. All wrong.
12:29.57ChoHagYou're supposed to pick a random person and say "Where's morsing?"
12:32.01dick_turpinKin el another 'fail' for dick_turpin
12:34.15dick_turpinIs there a form? syntax? to make pwgen produce 128 bit passwords? If I just issue pwgen I get 64 bit ones
12:36.01ChoHagman pwgen?
12:38.29dick_turpinpwgen -h gives some help typing pwgen 128 produces way too long passwords
12:39.16dick_turpinbilarh: You heifer you must know the answer Mr Degree boy
12:45.06ChoHagHow can he know anything if he's got a degree?
12:45.12ChoHagHo wasted all his time learning.
12:51.23dick_turpinTrue however I learnt something from the TV this morning, my poor spelling is no longer an embarrassment to me or a hindrance in any carear furtherment I might consider, if Gordon Brown can hold down his job with his spelling why should I be worried?
12:51.44dick_turpincareer
12:52.04ChoHagExcept that by all appearences, he can't.
12:52.21dick_turpinExactly
13:02.26dick_turpinAnd the answer is.... pwgen 16
13:13.12dick_turpinbilarh: Euww stop sending me pictures of your bit-on-the-side http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=6287
13:13.23dick_turpinsfw
13:16.01bilarhdick_turpin: omg
13:19.46dick_turpinI love that website I want a "People of ASDA"
13:21.53ChoHagWhat's the etiquette when you've sent somebody an email asking things you need to know in order to work, and they don't reply?
13:23.23dick_turpinBaseball bat and a can of petrol seems to work well for me
13:24.10rhoweSend them another email asking if your first one was received, or call them and ask
13:26.46dick_turpinBetter still you should have added a 'received receipt' and a 'read receipt' then you would have know (Hopefully) that they got it and read it. Also you could have stamped it as High Priority
13:27.29rhowedick_turpin: Don't forget making the subject line all caps with lots of exclamation marks
13:28.10DiscordianUKand add OMG !! LOL!!
13:37.46AndyMillarChoHag: how long ago did you send it?
13:38.07ChoHagNot long actually.
13:38.14ChoHagIt feels long because I'm tired.
13:55.17dick_turpinrhowe: I have a customer who sends emails in size 42 Green font when he wants an urgent response
14:52.15AndyMillarawesome
15:06.57rhowedick_turpin: Have you told him you use mutt? :)
15:07.44dick_turpinrhowe: Na, it just makes me ignore them even more
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17:20.29rhowesickipedia comedy night in shoreditch tonight, 8pm at old blue last in shoreditch
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