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| 00:49.08 | lejocelyn | hi |
| 00:49.39 | lejocelyn | my G3 just died :'(, is there people good in electronics in GLLUG ? |
| 00:57.21 | wethrin | Depends what's died in it |
| 00:57.33 | lejocelyn | that's the question |
| 00:57.47 | lejocelyn | I think it's related to the alimentation |
| 00:57.50 | wethrin | Does it turn on? |
| 00:57.54 | lejocelyn | no |
| 00:58.03 | lejocelyn | I just changed the motherboard battery |
| 00:58.04 | wethrin | No sounds whatsoever? |
| 00:58.16 | lejocelyn | it worked once, not anymore |
| 00:58.20 | lejocelyn | no sounds at all |
| 00:58.31 | wethrin | Tried a different power cable? |
| 00:59.15 | lejocelyn | :(, no :D |
| 00:59.19 | lejocelyn | 2 secs |
| 01:00.22 | wethrin | sometimes it's as simple as the fuse in your power cable's gone |
| 01:00.51 | lejocelyn | I tried, it"s not that |
| 01:02.07 | wethrin | Could be power supply, could be motherboard, then |
| 01:02.28 | wethrin | Put the old battery back in? |
| 01:02.50 | lejocelyn | yep, doesn't work |
| 01:04.11 | wethrin | Hm. Time to break out the spares, then. Or the multimeter |
| 01:04.47 | lejocelyn | I don't have one, that's onee of the problem |
| 01:05.31 | wethrin | it's worth having one :) |
| 01:05.58 | wethrin | So, you put the new battery in; it worked okay. Then you turned it off, and it never came back on again? |
| 01:06.08 | lejocelyn | true, then the problem is learning to use it |
| 01:06.16 | lejocelyn | wethrin: exactly |
| 01:06.29 | lejocelyn | I turned it off and unplugged it |
| 01:06.51 | lejocelyn | because I noticed that it was the first time I unplugged it |
| 01:07.37 | wethrin | could be something's gone in your PSU, then |
| 01:08.27 | wethrin | then again, a G3 is old |
| 01:08.33 | lejocelyn | I found it :) |
| 01:08.48 | wethrin | knocked some cable out? |
| 01:09.37 | lejocelyn | knocked ? sorry, my english isn't very good |
| 01:09.42 | lejocelyn | tested you mean ? |
| 01:10.17 | wethrin | no - did a cable fall out when you were inside the computer? |
| 01:10.21 | wethrin | Found the problem? |
| 01:10.42 | lejocelyn | I don't think so |
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| 01:19.39 | lejocelyn | wethrin: ok, I'm tired, I may be have found some help on #london hack space |
| 01:19.45 | lejocelyn | I'll find out tomorrow |
| 01:19.49 | lejocelyn | thanks |
| 01:19.57 | lejocelyn | and see thou |
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| 09:31.32 | Mohan | morning |
| 09:34.25 | DiscordianUK | Morning |
| 09:37.27 | zeroXten | morning |
| 09:50.59 | AndyMillar | mornin |
| 09:53.24 | antiphase | Wurd up homiez |
| 09:53.46 | DiscordianUK | high 5's antiphase |
| 10:03.28 | ChoHag | Has anybody noticed that the in win7 advert "I asked for less clicks. Now it takes less clicks", the c and l run together? |
| 10:04.09 | ChoHag | (less vs. fewer notwithstanding) |
| 10:13.39 | zeroXten | heh, will keep an eye out for it next time |
| 10:14.48 | zeroXten | i was thinking of getting stickers made from http://www.sophos.com/blogs/chetw/g/2009/11/03/windows-7-vulnerable-8-10-viruses/ and sticking them on the "I asked for security ...." posters :) |
| 10:16.22 | ChoHag | "Windows 7 users need not feel left out. They can still participate in the ZBot botnet with a side of fake anti-virus." |
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| 11:44.22 | ChoHag | still hasn't learnt not to hit ctrl-alt-bs to delete a word. |
| 11:47.31 | wethrin | Ha ha |
| 12:22.08 | AndyMillar | ctrl+w |
| 12:31.44 | wethrin | Close window? |
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| 12:33.55 | wethrin | yo dick_turpin |
| 12:34.33 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Hey baby whats cooking? |
| 12:34.42 | wethrin | My job's running out! |
| 12:36.01 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Oh god no? Mind you your better than me according to the TV the other night once you've hit 40 your on the scrap head so they should have slung me on that 8 years ago |
| 12:36.27 | wethrin | Heh, but didn't you hear that unemployment in 16-24 year olds is at an all time high? |
| 12:36.32 | wethrin | (not that I fit into either brakcet) |
| 12:38.10 | dick_turpin | Yeah that was gonna be my next statement and apparently less than a quarter of those will ever find gainful employment through out the rest of their lives seeing as they will be scarred by the experience! |
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| 12:44.58 | hali | there will always be it jobs in the city |
| 12:45.17 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Oi so whats the situation? How long you got? Have you got anything in the pipeline |
| 12:46.13 | wethrin | Till the end of January. And possibly. |
| 12:46.23 | wethrin | I just need to get my arse in gear before the 20th |
| 12:46.40 | bilarh | wethrin: :( |
| 12:46.43 | bilarh | sucks dude |
| 12:46.45 | wethrin | mmmm, free time |
| 12:49.00 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You mustn't look at it that way you could end up with 10 years free time |
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| 12:50.34 | wethrin | True |
| 12:56.25 | dick_turpin | Here's a good one was sat watching the TV Wednesday night about 6pm, keep in mind my misses works for Foxes Biscuits, she was due in at 10pm that night, when an item came on "Foxes announced job cuts at their Uttoxetter site today" my misses knew nothing about it so I'm dreading seeing her when I get home |
| 12:56.57 | wethrin | oh dear |
| 12:58.15 | bilarh | everyones losing their jobs at the moment |
| 12:58.33 | AndyMillar | :/ |
| 12:59.00 | hali | spoke to a friend of mine, postgrad currently looking for work.. he had several offers from banks |
| 12:59.17 | hali | RBS offered him a 6k handshake bonus |
| 12:59.31 | hali | for just joining, even if he leaves in a month |
| 13:00.07 | wethrin | Ooh, can I have that? |
| 13:00.16 | wethrin | So I can join, get 6k, then tell them to get stuffed? |
| 13:00.24 | hali | if you want to work for rbs then probably :) |
| 13:00.31 | hali | wethrin: and just stay your notice yes |
| 13:00.44 | dick_turpin | Where do I apply? |
| 13:00.58 | hali | dunno, the rbs post graduate scheme jada thingy somewhere |
| 13:01.02 | bilarh | still, not everyone is a post grad student looking to join a bank :P |
| 13:01.09 | wethrin | I don't want to work for rbs |
| 13:01.14 | bilarh | back in the real world, people are losing their jobs left right and centre |
| 13:01.24 | wethrin | but for 6k, I'll do it for a month |
| 13:01.27 | hali | of all the banks i work with, rbs seems to have the highest level of IT skills |
| 13:01.28 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Shut your face and help me fill out this application form |
| 13:01.37 | hali | (except everyone who came from the ABN side, they sucked essex balls) |
| 13:01.47 | bilarh | why don't you just have another one of those white lightning bottles, dear |
| 13:02.16 | DiscordianUK | Isn't RBS mainly in Edinburgh? I used to know some of their contractors |
| 13:02.55 | hali | they have 15k people in the city square mile around liverpool street |
| 13:03.10 | DiscordianUK | ahhh I see |
| 13:05.40 | dick_turpin | hali: Who sucks Essex balls? Is it a female? I'm from Essex :-) |
| 13:11.17 | ChoHag | AndyMillar: I'm in the habit of C-h for delete and C-M-h for delete word, both of which work. |
| 13:12.12 | ChoHag | However I'm also in the habit of bs for delete, which sometimes blindly becomes C-bs, and C-M-bs then deletes a word whether it wants to be deleted or not. |
| 13:12.41 | hali | dick_turpin: 90% of ABN Amro IT staff in London was from essex .. classic geezers ... "alright mate, yeah that's well cushty" |
| 13:12.59 | boudiccas | ChoHag, bull sh*t for delete???? is that right? |
| 13:13.22 | ChoHag | No... |
| 13:13.47 | ChoHag | bs as in backspace |
| 13:13.53 | DiscordianUK | I have the backspace key bound to ctrl-h and delete to ctrl-\ |
| 13:14.16 | ChoHag | How does that work? |
| 13:14.24 | dick_turpin | bilarh: How do you say that you promise not to pinch any money on this RBS application form? Also I'm filling it out like 30 times so I can apply under different names up and down the country. Given recent evidence I doubt they'll check up on the details |
| 13:14.31 | ChoHag | C-\ doesn't delete, it just kills. Hard. |
| 13:14.58 | ChoHag | dick_turpin: Just say you're a banker, then they expect you to pinch money. |
| 13:15.24 | bilarh | dick_turpin: "i promise not to nik ur shit?" |
| 13:16.21 | DiscordianUK | Indeed |
| 13:16.41 | DiscordianUK | That's what I want the delete key to do |
| 13:17.04 | ChoHag | Oh. |
| 13:17.10 | ChoHag | That's pretty harsh isn't it? |
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| 13:19.18 | DiscordianUK | Hmm maybe |
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| 13:20.57 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I've put "I have my own shovel for securely depositing savers money in the back garden" do you reckon they like that? |
| 13:21.59 | bilarh | hehe :) |
| 13:22.28 | ChoHag | They wouldn't want you outdoing them. |
| 13:23.32 | dick_turpin | Ears-a-fought I wonder if they'll pay me 6k not to apply? |
| 13:23.58 | wethrin | Write to them and ask them |
| 13:24.21 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You bastard you know I cant write |
| 13:24.28 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:24.33 | wethrin | Get an educashon! |
| 13:24.41 | wethrin | Just dont' get a degree. Because then you won't know stuff. |
| 13:25.54 | dick_turpin | I did try to go to school once but my dad beat me and said "Are you some sort of girl? Get on that Thames Barrier and start bailing" |
| 13:25.59 | boudiccas | go for it dick_turpin apply and claim your 6k :) |
| 13:26.47 | boudiccas | i wonder if theyd pay me 6k, or even 3k with my nursing qualifications |
| 13:28.54 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I got paid 2k the other night. When I came home I threw the bag of 10p's down and said "There you are love £2k" The misses said "Who gave you 10p?" Everyone I said :-) |
| 13:31.22 | bilarh | boudiccas: only if your nursing qualifications included courses on deceit and book cooking :P |
| 13:32.02 | wethrin | books are best simmered to soften them |
| 13:35.09 | dick_turpin | I do have one of the required assets, I do know a heck of a lot of people so I'm sure I could dig up one or two dodgy contacts in Africa to sell loans to for risky mortgages for which of course he will give me a perfectly legal commission |
| 13:42.46 | wethrin | Well, IRC's being really boring today |
| 13:42.55 | wethrin | I'm disappointed. Not just in you lot. But in other people too. |
| 13:43.02 | wethrin | I might have to do some real work at this point! |
| 13:43.04 | Armand|Lappy | lol |
| 13:43.43 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I can tell you about Asus ripping us off if you like? |
| 13:43.52 | wethrin | Yes please |
| 13:44.04 | wethrin | Makes a change from you ripping off your customers :-) |
| 13:45.04 | dick_turpin | wethrin: So we have this dogs bollocks gaming laptop G2 or summink, the fuser board has gone which is dead easy to change |
| 13:45.39 | dick_turpin | They would not send the board out we had to send the laptop which they collect |
| 13:46.00 | dick_turpin | So they said it would be £87 tad pricey but OK |
| 13:46.16 | dick_turpin | We got an invoice a few moments ago |
| 13:46.30 | dick_turpin | Collect/Deliver £30 |
| 13:46.37 | dick_turpin | Labour £60 |
| 13:46.45 | Armand|Lappy | parts? |
| 13:46.47 | dick_turpin | Fuser board £7.963 |
| 13:46.59 | dick_turpin | £7.96 |
| 13:47.03 | Armand|Lappy | So, 97 so far.. |
| 13:47.08 | Armand|Lappy | and then? |
| 13:47.12 | wethrin | Plus VAT? |
| 13:47.26 | dick_turpin | FFS send me the board we can fit it! |
| 13:47.38 | Armand|Lappy | aaaand theeeeen ? |
| 13:47.39 | ChoHag | My attempt to turn a cheap pair of headphones with a short wire into a cheap pair of headphones with a long wire, by use of an old network cable, has failed. |
| 13:47.53 | ChoHag | I have no headphones but I do have a lot of colourful wire. |
| 13:47.59 | Armand|Lappy | use bell wire |
| 13:48.34 | wethrin | heh |
| 13:49.00 | Armand|Lappy | ChoHag: ANY results at all.. or just dead? |
| 13:49.08 | ChoHag | Armand|Lappy: Dead. |
| 13:49.29 | ChoHag | The wires inside the speaker wire had nothing insulating them from each other. |
| 13:49.34 | Armand|Lappy | O_O |
| 13:49.50 | ChoHag | Except I think some form of coating on the wire |
| 13:59.02 | wethrin | what, like, insulation? |
| 13:59.11 | ChoHag | Well yes. |
| 13:59.22 | ChoHag | But nothing so simple as plastic sheathing. |
| 13:59.29 | ChoHag | Which is what I'd expected. |
| 14:08.43 | dick_turpin | wethrin: ROTFLMAO Asus are holding the laptop to ransom until we cough up a credit card (They collected yesterday) |
| 14:09.20 | wethrin | Did you get the initial price in writing? |
| 14:09.35 | dick_turpin | I'm waiting for a photo of it handcuffed to a radiator holding today's copy of the Times or something |
| 14:10.25 | DiscordianUK | haha |
| 14:11.27 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yeah the original price (Verbal) was £87 |
| 14:12.10 | dick_turpin | I'm considering asking for 'Proof of Life' |
| 14:12.33 | dick_turpin | has watched these hostage negotiation films |
| 14:12.38 | wethrin | oh. A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on. |
| 14:12.40 | wethrin | You know this! |
| 14:13.46 | dick_turpin | wethrin: It is if you make it with me! |
| 14:13.59 | wethrin | uhhuh |
| 14:14.19 | wethrin | You're a salesperson. I'll ask for things in writing, thankyou |
| 14:14.37 | boudiccas | in triplicate |
| 14:15.51 | boudiccas | one for the salesperson, one for the customer and one for the customers lawyer. that should just about cover things dont you think? |
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| 14:25.16 | dick_turpin | wethrin: We get big Bubba to pay you a visit if you don't cough up |
| 14:32.00 | ChoHag | Why did Intel remove proper multihead support from their xorg driver? |
| 14:32.04 | ChoHag | They are a bunch of cocks. |
| 14:32.24 | ChoHag | Is there a graphics card/chip manufacturer which isn't staffed entirely by cocks? |
| 14:35.26 | wethrin | No. HTH. |
| 14:35.45 | ChoHag | Bastards. |
| 14:36.49 | hali | matrix? |
| 14:36.51 | hali | matrox* |
| 14:37.01 | hali | they charge like 900 squid for a card these days though |
| 14:43.02 | ChoHag | Hey there's a distributor down the road from my house. |
| 14:44.48 | ChoHag | Shame I don't have any ocean critters available for trade. |
| 14:47.28 | antiphase | Nvidia stuff always works for me |
| 14:47.45 | antiphase | You hippies that don't like binary drivers can all sit there with one screen that doesn't work properly |
| 14:47.53 | ChoHag | Hah! |
| 14:47.59 | ChoHag | I have TWO screens that don't work properly. |
| 14:48.52 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: intel works for me with 2 screens :) |
| 14:49.17 | ChoHag | But not two independent screens, like it used to be. |
| 14:51.28 | AndyMillar | doesn't follow |
| 14:51.47 | ChoHag | You have one big screen on two monitors. I want two screens on two monitors. |
| 14:51.54 | DiscordianUK | that'd be :0 and :1 as opposed to spanning with xinerama |
| 14:51.57 | ChoHag | Intel won't do that any more because they are monkeys. |
| 14:52.13 | ChoHag | DiscordianUK: :0.0 and :0.1, but otherwise yeah. |
| 14:52.26 | DiscordianUK | yeah sorry yes |
| 14:52.36 | DiscordianUK | I used to do that |
| 14:52.49 | zeroXten | antiphase: using compiz at all? |
| 14:53.41 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: ah, you mean so you can't drag windows between them and so? |
| 14:53.58 | AndyMillar | (i.e. like ATI) |
| 14:54.02 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 14:54.08 | DiscordianUK | This laptop has an intel chipset I could do dual head on it |
| 14:55.16 | antiphase | I hate composited displays |
| 14:56.12 | antiphase | They're slow and annoying. I like my windows to remain parallel-sided, and my virtual desktops to switch instantly without sliding or some disroted 3D crap ruining my day |
| 14:56.16 | dick_turpin | Ahahahaha I was waiting for that my thoughts was "Who dares prod the sleeping beast with the desktop bling stick" |
| 14:56.36 | antiphase | s /disroted/distorted/ |
| 14:56.46 | antiphase | defeats shitbot |
| 14:57.14 | ChoHag | The only advantage to composited displays is transparancy and shadows, and only because they're fun not because they're useful. |
| 14:57.19 | ChoHag | The price is way too high. |
| 15:03.01 | Armand|Lappy | I don't have any issues with mine.. runs smooth as silk. |
| 15:04.16 | ChoHag | Pah. Kids these days. "/bin/sh redirected to a feature reduced version of bash which is called "dash"' |
| 15:05.10 | Armand|Lappy | I haven't run it on the 5200 yet. :P |
| 15:07.18 | zeroXten | i find transparency very useful. handy with terminals open over eachother, if i need to be able to see stuff behind etc. |
| 15:07.37 | antiphase | Get more screen and virtual desktops |
| 15:07.43 | antiphase | I don't overlap anything generally |
| 15:07.47 | DiscordianUK | I have each app in a seperate desktop |
| 15:08.29 | zeroXten | meh.. each to their own i guess. I already have 6 desktops most of which get used regularly. |
| 15:08.55 | antiphase | I've got 10 desktops on each of 2 monitors :P |
| 15:09.01 | antiphase | tbh I don't really use most of them |
| 15:09.09 | DiscordianUK | I have 8 |
| 15:09.13 | zeroXten | screens are a bit small I have to admin, one 15" lappy screen and a 22" dell monitor |
| 15:09.32 | zeroXten | s/admin/admit/ |
| 15:09.34 | dick_turpin | I used to be a big Compiz, Beryl, Compiz-fusion, compiz fanboy but gave it all up as a complete and utter waste of eye candy time |
| 15:09.52 | zeroXten | heh |
| 15:25.17 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Bearing in mind we are an independent ISP I took great pleasure in making a cup of tea and making CYB drink out of a Bytemark mug |
| 15:26.13 | wethrin | heh |
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| 15:59.43 | ChoHag | Cherry coke tastes reasonably nice if you don't drink it for about 10 years. |
| 16:04.14 | rhowe | Favourite cheap SSL certificate provider? |
| 16:04.34 | rhowe | UKFSN isn't working for me and Jason hasn't replied to my ticket |
| 16:05.23 | ChoHag | Jason hasn't replied? |
| 16:05.26 | ChoHag | Never! |
| 16:05.32 | ChoHag | He's always on the ball. |
| 16:13.33 | rhowe | :) |
| 16:30.16 | ChoHag | Why does the pimp that got me this contract want to meet us all? |
| 16:31.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Cheeky peek for you http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/?p=6320 sfw |
| 16:39.18 | bilarh | dick_turpin: powm is never worksafe |
| 16:41.39 | dick_turpin | If thats your level of porn you need to get out more my friend |
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| 17:57.33 | AndyMillar | that site is wrong :( |
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