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01:01.54 | zeroXten | o/ |
01:08.32 | Armand | Hey zeroXten. :) |
01:09.29 | zeroXten | heya |
01:09.45 | Armand | How goes it? |
01:11.39 | zeroXten | not bad, about to run out of laptop juice after sorting out outage =/ |
01:11.55 | zeroXten | laptop telling me to go to bed i guess |
01:16.13 | Armand | Yes.. :) |
01:16.20 | Armand | I just leave mine plugged in. :P |
01:21.10 | zeroXten | heh |
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08:27.42 | AndyMillar | mornin |
08:28.20 | AndyMillar | and oh cock it's late |
08:42.01 | j0nr | Morning |
09:19.42 | zeroXten | morning |
09:24.54 | Mohan | Morning! |
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09:56.13 | AndyMillar | ok, i *hate* hard links |
09:56.18 | DiscordianUK | Morning |
09:56.48 | DiscordianUK | Like link() rather than ln ones? |
09:57.01 | AndyMillar | no, as in ln (not ln -s) |
09:57.36 | DiscordianUK | Ahhh yes but those hard links are everywhere |
09:57.56 | antiphase | In ur file systems incresing ur ref counts |
09:58.16 | DiscordianUK | been an important part of Unix since UR-bsd |
10:02.16 | AndyMillar | yeah, but when someone doesn't document the use of them, and then your rsync manages to use billions of spaces |
10:02.35 | DiscordianUK | Urggle |
10:03.49 | DiscordianUK | Doesn't -H preserve hardlinks? |
10:04.02 | AndyMillar | yes |
10:04.58 | ChoHag | Perl's automatic coercion to strings when necessary is highly addictive. |
10:11.23 | AndyMillar | DiscordianUK: but that's a problem when you don't know that they're there |
10:11.54 | ChoHag | In fact, perl's automatic X is highly addictive, for any X. |
10:12.05 | DiscordianUK | Well yes , good documentation is the mark of an experienced and conscientious sysadmin |
10:12.25 | Leeds | and like many addictions, is dangerous in the long run |
10:12.25 | AndyMillar | DiscordianUK: this is some pre-packaged software :) |
10:12.39 | DiscordianUK | Lovely jubbly |
10:13.09 | AndyMillar | so 90GB is turning into 150+ |
10:13.37 | AndyMillar | well, the volume i'm replicating into is only 150GB as that is "enough(tm)" |
10:27.48 | ChoHag | If a heisenbug is a bug that's not there when you look for it, what's a bug that's only there when you look for it, and then doesn't go away until you look for it again? |
10:33.01 | AndyMillar | ~seen billarh |
10:33.02 | ibot | AndyMillar: i haven't seen 'billarh' |
10:33.03 | AndyMillar | ~seen billah |
10:33.03 | ibot | AndyMillar: i haven't seen 'billah' |
10:33.05 | AndyMillar | hmm |
10:33.12 | AndyMillar | ~seen bilarh |
10:33.13 | ibot | bilarh <n=henrik@128-177-27-125.ip.openhosting.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 13d 17h 53m 55s ago, saying: 'dick_turpin: powm is never worksafe'. |
10:33.14 | AndyMillar | ah, one l |
10:33.22 | wethrin | Tab completion is great! |
10:33.28 | AndyMillar | indeed |
10:33.36 | ChoHag | ... the error turned out to be the result of a tiny change in the geometry of the [LEP particle accelerator's] 27km circumference ring, physically caused by the deformation of the Earth by the passage of the Moon |
10:33.38 | ChoHag | Phase of the moon bug. |
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12:06.12 | dick_turpin | throws the still beating heart of morsing on the ground |
12:06.44 | wethrin | What've you done? |
12:07.12 | dick_turpin | Its OK it was a mercy killing |
12:07.49 | wethrin | oh, carry on |
12:10.13 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Remember the "We want £200 out of hours install"? |
12:10.52 | wethrin | no? |
12:11.01 | wethrin | but I think you've summarised it nicely |
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12:14.03 | wethrin | hi jason_ukfsn |
12:14.51 | dick_turpin | wethrin: The ESET install where the customer got his arse in his had? Never mind, we are doing it now! As we speak, so much for I need it at 7.30am |
12:15.20 | wethrin | Now is a far more civilised time to do it |
12:19.29 | jason_ukfsn | hi |
12:40.11 | AndyMillar | hmm |
12:40.18 | AndyMillar | ok, how many of you lot use samba? |
12:42.48 | ChoHag | Not if I can help it. |
12:44.28 | AndyMillar | heh |
12:44.31 | AndyMillar | has an odd issue |
12:45.38 | dick_turpin | We know |
12:46.54 | AndyMillar | thanks... |
12:47.58 | Mohan | AndyMillar: whats the issue btw? |
12:48.37 | AndyMillar | printing is *painfully* slow from windows |
12:48.48 | AndyMillar | to the order of click print then wait 45-60 seconds |
12:49.05 | AndyMillar | it's even happening when printing from notepad |
12:49.13 | AndyMillar | so it's not as though the documents are complicated |
12:50.37 | Mohan | thats strange.. |
12:51.26 | AndyMillar | idd |
12:53.36 | Mohan | may be it has got to do something with socket options in samba conf. log file didnt help ? |
13:00.18 | Mohan | Also it could be due to the authentication of the user to print on it. |
13:13.43 | antiphase | Do people still use directly-attached printers? |
13:20.09 | jason_ukfsn | I do but there are only 3 PCs that may ever talk to it and it's far easier to have it directly connected and shared via cups |
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13:38.39 | AndyMillar | antiphase: we have network printers shared via cups |
13:38.50 | AndyMillar | Mohan: auth seems fine |
13:39.01 | AndyMillar | is trying disabling a firewall to see what happens |
13:39.08 | antiphase | Fail. What's wrong with IPP or JetDirect or socket connections? |
13:39.30 | AndyMillar | pita :) |
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14:20.37 | londo | AndyMillar: do you have any dead printers installed? the print dialog tries to contact everything from what I remember |
14:28.34 | AndyMillar | londo: nope :) |
14:48.19 | ChoHag | "... you are liable for insurance claims if your dog damages something but not if your cat does. Sadly getting permits to keep Bengal Tigers in your back garden is very very difficult." |
15:21.08 | AndyMillar | pity, they're cute |
15:54.08 | zeroXten | get a toyger instead |
16:01.20 | dick_turpin | Roar |
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16:18.27 | AndyMillar | tries to remember what cv.ic.ac.uk is (again) |
16:18.43 | wethrin | civil engineering |
16:18.45 | zeroXten | ic \o/ |
16:18.49 | wethrin | (hint: go to www.cv.ic.ac.uk) |
16:19.25 | ChoHag | Woo! I think I've passed a milestone. |
16:19.27 | AndyMillar | ic++ |
16:19.36 | AndyMillar | zeroXten: ex-ic? |
16:19.38 | zeroXten | r |
16:19.41 | AndyMillar | \o/ |
16:19.44 | ChoHag | I've met the first person who'd rather bitch about me than to me. |
16:19.44 | zeroXten | heh |
16:19.49 | zeroXten | was only there for two years though |
16:20.03 | zeroXten | ran out of money =( |
16:20.05 | ChoHag | Thus naturally speeding up the process of implementing the things he desires... |
16:20.11 | AndyMillar | :( |
16:26.42 | zeroXten | what did you do at ic? |
16:26.58 | Mohan | window shopper |
16:27.13 | zeroXten | read that as stripper |
16:28.06 | Mohan | wonders do they have strippers in ic ? |
16:28.35 | zeroXten | only male (85% male when i was there) |
16:28.55 | Mohan | booo :( |
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16:39.23 | z00dax | so, whats the #gllug recommendation list for : podcasts worth listening to ? |
16:39.50 | Armand|Lappy | doesn't do podcasts.. |
16:42.55 | Leeds | TWiT and the Economist weekly edition for me, nowadays |
16:43.01 | Leeds | and Radio 4 comedy |
16:46.37 | z00dax | the economist went subscriber only i think! |
16:47.10 | Leeds | always has been... but although my subscription lapsed about 8 months ago, I can still download it :) |
16:47.41 | zeroXten | pauldotcom |
16:50.53 | z00dax | ah, i used to be able to get to it for a while, perhaps that was due to my paper subscripting still running. |
16:50.59 | z00dax | maybe i should try that again :) |
16:51.11 | z00dax | humm pauldotcom |
16:51.42 | zeroXten | r |
16:53.14 | z00dax | I really need to fix my work computer |
16:53.16 | z00dax | brb |
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17:13.25 | dick_turpin | Aaarrrggh I can do that job just posted to the mailing list |
17:15.31 | jason_ukfsn | So apply for it then |
17:15.57 | jason_ukfsn | but could you do it standing on Peter Cannon's head? |
17:16.09 | dick_turpin | Ahahaha |
17:17.01 | dick_turpin | jason_ukfsn: Do you know who he is? |
17:17.29 | jason_ukfsn | Nope but he is the one who indicated that standing on his head might be a qualification in his reply on the list. |
17:17.33 | ChoHag | I wonder if I should apply. |
17:17.38 | ChoHag | I worked there before. |
17:17.58 | dick_turpin | jason_ukfsn: I'm Peter Cannon :-) |
17:18.28 | wethrin | No, I'm Peter Cannon! |
17:18.30 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Whats it like? |
17:18.46 | ChoHag | It's not that bad. |
17:18.47 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Oh good, here have all my debts |
17:19.48 | zeroXten | an mine |
17:19.50 | zeroXten | +d |
17:19.58 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I was gonna be cruel and play along making out I had no idea who he was but I'm a really really nice guy and would never ever do anything like that |
17:20.11 | ChoHag | Oh I didn't notice it's the management position. |
17:21.07 | dick_turpin | I have nearly 30 years Management experience across multiple disciplines from private to public sector |
17:21.20 | ChoHag | Pays not exactly great for a admin position. |
17:21.33 | dick_turpin | I'll take it |
17:22.07 | ChoHag | Well if you want to, go for it. |
17:22.32 | ChoHag | The people it's managing are actually quite good at managing themselves so physical presense is probably not required all the time. |
17:22.38 | dick_turpin | Er commute from Wolverhampton, you having a laugh? |
17:22.45 | wethrin | wonders if by 'non-proprietory document format', they mean a format that no-one can generate? |
17:23.04 | ChoHag | In fact when I was there I spent most of the time arguing with the manager at the time because he kept trying to manage me. |
17:23.15 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Back of a fag packet is no good then? |
17:23.26 | wethrin | Could do |
17:23.59 | ChoHag | dick_turpin: The point is, discuss the distance with Jake and maybe work from home 3/4 days a week. |
17:24.02 | ChoHag | Can't hurt to ask. |
17:24.46 | ChoHag | The only thing a manager ever needs to be present for is to control the peons, and the peons there are all capable of looking after themselves. |
17:25.10 | ChoHag | At least they were before and I have it on good authority (ie. from one of the peons still there) that that remains the case. |
17:25.21 | dick_turpin | I was at Herts Council offices many moons ago when I was young and impressionable where I watched a former boss present a tender on a opened out BH packet of fags. (True story on my kids lives) |
17:25.35 | wethrin | Your kids, but not your own? |
17:25.53 | dick_turpin | I'm young I can have more |
17:25.53 | ChoHag | More kids can be made. |
17:26.11 | wethrin | you're not young. You're old! |
17:26.29 | dick_turpin | takes one of wethrin's degree's away |
17:27.01 | dick_turpin | right I'm off ttfn |
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