IRC log for #gllug on 20091214

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08:32.53haliGood Morning
08:46.06AndyMillarmornin
08:48.11bilarhmorning folks
09:05.10boudiccasmorning
09:06.07Mohanmorning
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09:16.24zeroXtenmorning
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09:35.59ChoHagFriendly train announcer this morning.
09:36.46bilarhi accidentally bought a lathe and band saw in the weekend :S
09:36.47ChoHag"The 07:32 train to Waterloo will terminate at Surbiton. This train will not call at Berrylands, New Malden, etc. etc. This train is formed of 8 coaches."
09:45.24antiphasebilarh: Either you have too much money, or they're scrap :P
09:46.55bilarhantiphase: they both "run", that's all i'm saying on the subject :D
09:50.53antiphaseNew bearings all round then
10:14.48ChoHagBrolly company has fucked up my pay.
10:15.09ChoHagI haven't even told them I'm moving to my own company yet.
10:15.21wethrin"Kronenberg n. A lady who appears from behind to be about '16', but reveals herself to be about '64' when she turns round."
10:15.25wethrinI mean, morning all!
10:15.44AndyMillarmornin
10:16.27DiscordianUKMmm K1664 lovely drop of stuff
10:17.10wethrinonly if there's nothing on handpull
10:17.48DiscordianUKWell yeah
10:24.29z00daxwonders if todays stand up will be just me
10:24.52DiscordianUKstand up?
10:29.33antiphaseAgile!
10:32.55ChoHagMmm. Agile.
10:33.24ChoHag$militant_developer keeps trying to make our work agile.
10:33.38ChoHagHe's being subtle about it, but he's not good at subtlety.
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11:05.05halihm, vi doesn't like my 2gb single line xml file
11:05.28ChoHagI'm not sure anybody or thing does.
11:05.30ChoHagOr should.
11:05.39ChoHagThat's horror-movie type stuff.
11:05.49ChoHagExcept, it's actually scary.
11:07.01haliour api happily produces it
11:07.06halisoap ftw... or not
11:12.55z00daxdetergent!
11:13.33haliit makes good use of mod_delate though :)
11:13.46z00daxdelate ? or deflate ?
11:13.57halideflate
11:14.14z00daxI wonder how much of an impact that has on the cpu :)
11:14.44ChoHagDepends if you put it through the spin cycle.
11:14.48halinot much considering we only have about 10 clients polling that cpu
11:15.01DiscordianUK2Gb single line file, nice
11:15.19halitwo apaches load balanced to jboss instances behind it
11:15.59halii'm considering moving the web tier in to the netscalers
11:16.18halithey can do pretty much everything apache httpd does for us now, but im not 100% confident in the flexibility
11:17.41z00daxhumm citrix foo... you actually *want* to move to a citrix product ?
11:18.08halinetscalers are really really nice actually
11:18.17z00dax'i was once attacked by a citrix, many years back - its still a cause for many nightmares'
11:18.32haliand i have to say i sort of like citrix metaframe (or whatever it's called these days)
11:20.11z00daxxenapp ?
11:20.15haliyes
11:20.29halii have a citrix XenServer install as well, but that does suck balls
11:20.36halibut only two boxes
11:21.32z00daxI've got a 3 machine eucalyptus/xen setup for playstuff here at work
11:21.57z00daxthis used to be a citrix ( or xen ) xenserver setup, people around seem a lot happier with eucalyptus now
11:22.26halieucalyptus is some sort of xen management interface?
11:23.03z00daxyeah, and has a mostly-nice api
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11:24.19z00daxhttp://open.eucalyptus.com/ it was done mostly for the aws stack
11:26.42z00daxwhat i need to get working is the ability to move a local xen vm instance over to ec2
11:27.33antiphaseOpen your wallet and shake it upside-down over the nearest toilet
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11:36.03ChoHagWho from Debian decided all numbers over 1000 should have a , in them?
11:36.07ChoHagOr was it GNU?
11:36.39DiscordianUKIsn't that an ISO standard?
11:36.52DiscordianUKfor >= 1000
11:37.15ChoHagI'm sure it's a standard something.
11:37.26ChoHagI'm also sure it looks stupid in a fixed width font.
11:37.57DiscordianUKIt's also standard practice cos it makes it easier to read
11:43.02londoif you don't like it I am pretty sure there is a locale without it
11:46.29z00daxantiphase: :)
11:49.53antiphaseMaybe people should use the weird Perl-style _ thousands separator instead
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12:46.08dick_turpinAfternoon All
13:00.57ChoHagAfternoon indeed.
13:27.39antiphaseGoedemiddag
13:29.58dick_turpin?
13:31.09antiphaseDutch innit, you heathen
13:32.46dick_turpinYou know me so well
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13:38.33sabinef72hi all
13:38.37sabinef72z00dax: you around ?
13:38.43dick_turpinsabinef72: Hey
13:39.04z00daxsabinef72: hi
13:40.37sabinef72is it snowing in UK ?
13:40.45rhowefoggy this morning
13:41.29z00daxno snow anywhere near here, its quite cold etc, but there is a sun thats out
14:10.43ChoHag<Pimp> Do you need this sorted before Friday?
14:10.45ChoHag<Me> Yes>
14:10.52ChoHag<Pimp> Why didn't you say this before?
14:10.59ChoHag<Me> I did. In the email. Point 3.
14:11.07ChoHagCocks.
14:13.31dick_turpinWe are supposed to have snow beginning to middle of next week
14:13.59dick_turpinShould make bilarh feel at home :-)
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14:24.47bilarhsnow, great
14:24.52bilarhprepares for the usual traffic chaos
14:25.30dick_turpinimposes a skiing tax
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16:36.57z00daxwow, its getting cold out there
16:37.47AndyMillarindeed
16:39.29Leedsyup
16:39.42ChoHagIt is.
16:39.43Leedslooking at an overnight low of 12C this coming weekend!
16:39.54ChoHagOh you broke it.
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16:44.06dick_turpinthrows another morsing on the fire
16:53.13boudiccascome home to a real fire, buy a cottage in wales!
16:53.32boudiccasgive blood, generously, play rugby!
16:55.27DiscordianHeh your Celtic roots calling you, boudiccas?
16:56.51boudiccaswe have no celtic roots, those barbarians are on the other side of the country, many days riding and near the home of the druids
16:57.11DiscordianOoops
16:57.46dick_turpinhttp://www.softwarefreedom.org/news/2009/dec/14/busybox-gpl-lawsuit/
16:59.06LeedsI made a formal request to Acer today for the source to the kernel on my new phone
16:59.30Leedsdid at least speak to someone clueful enough to know what the GPL is, and he promised to call me back tomorrow
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19:07.29lampuserHey Dis
19:07.36lampuserr u coming to lUG meet
19:07.37DiscordianUKevening
19:07.41lampuserit is 16th right
19:07.49DiscordianUKNah can't make that
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19:08.27londonnetWho is coming then
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19:13.03londonnetThere is quiz too
19:13.20DiscordianUKI can't make it too many late nights this week
19:13.29londonnetyah
19:13.38DiscordianUKand a MRI scan early on Thursday anyway
19:13.44londonnetok
19:14.02londonnetshould be fun
19:14.11londonnetany one from north london
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20:33.25DiscordianUKnice try
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