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01:05.37 | rhowe | wooo |
01:05.49 | rhowe | I only have one Debian etch box left at work now :D |
01:10.09 | wethrin | Hurrah? |
01:10.19 | wethrin | WEEE it :) |
01:10.46 | Leeds | I don't think urinating on a computer is a good idea |
01:13.14 | wethrin | It might make one feel better |
01:13.16 | wethrin | right. Sleep. |
01:13.17 | wethrin | night! |
01:48.59 | rhowe | wethrin: It's virtual, so I don't need no steenkin' EU directive to recycle it |
01:49.14 | rhowe | Anyway, you don't recycle Debian - you just perpetually upgrade |
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08:11.14 | AndyMillar | mornin |
08:11.42 | AndyMillar | rhowe: run debian stable, then you don't even have to upgrade |
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08:43.48 | mking | Re. Xorg - the complaint that it is old is countered by mature, that it's bloated with fully featured, and that "my youtube doesn't work" with "backward-compatible". |
08:48.05 | ChoHag | heh |
08:48.07 | ChoHag | MissingFunctionality |
08:48.13 | ChoHag | This page does not exist yet. |
09:37.49 | Mohan | morning |
09:55.07 | ChoHag | Is there a version of gq which doesn't segfault on the complicated task of logging in? |
09:55.29 | bilarh_ | takes delivery of his periodic table coffee cup |
10:15.56 | ChoHag | ant: Do you know if/when Thom and Andy (and Ollie) are turning up? |
10:26.44 | rhowe | AndyMillar: I am running stable |
10:27.04 | rhowe | AndyMillar: etch = oldstable, lenny = newstable - I just upgraded all but one of my etch boxes to lenny |
10:29.24 | bilarh_ | i can't believe it's only 10.28 :( |
10:29.30 | bilarh_ | feels like i've been sat here on my arse for hours |
10:29.30 | wethrin | bilarh_: Come to the pub tonight |
10:29.42 | bilarh_ | can't |
10:29.47 | wethrin | Also, do some work rather than sitting on your arse :) |
10:29.49 | wethrin | boo |
10:29.53 | wethrin | But the pub has tasty beer |
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10:46.13 | antiphase | ChoHag: Andy is next to you now. HTH |
10:46.58 | ChoHag | Thanks. |
10:47.26 | cpufreak | Thom and Ollie are WFH today |
10:49.08 | ChoHag | Heh. Years of reading the WTF acronym make WFH hard to read accurately. |
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11:01.16 | rhowe | thinks he should head into the office |
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11:32.31 | ChoHag | Hmm. |
11:32.37 | ChoHag | Bytemark VM host just rebooted. |
11:32.38 | ChoHag | Fun. |
11:32.50 | antiphase | <PROTECTED> |
11:32.55 | antiphase | Mine didn't :P |
11:34.50 | ChoHag | Then I guess you're not a partridge. |
11:34.54 | ChoHag | In a pear tree. |
11:35.24 | ChoHag | "Virtual machine host partridge rebooted" |
11:39.02 | AndyMillar | 11:39AM up 88 days, 3:33, 23 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 |
11:39.05 | AndyMillar | cries |
11:39.56 | ChoHag | bah |
11:40.00 | ChoHag | <PROTECTED> |
11:40.05 | ChoHag | I win! |
11:40.18 | ChoHag | This is golf, right? |
11:43.02 | ChoHag | Wtf? Why did nobody tell me about debian.pkgs.cpan.org? |
11:43.15 | ChoHag | I've been building my own with dh all these years. |
11:43.24 | ChoHag | Well not all that many, but still. |
11:44.55 | rhowe | anyone for beer tonight? |
11:45.08 | Mohan | why is that in newer versions of top (3.x) its not showing the no of available cpus ? |
11:45.10 | rhowe | market porter, near london bridge |
11:45.33 | AndyMillar | normally yes, but I'm off beer this month |
11:45.58 | rhowe | I should be too, after my xmas weight gain |
11:46.35 | rhowe | put 20kg on in.. a couple of years? |
11:47.01 | AndyMillar | ouch |
11:47.29 | rhowe | time to reversse that trend I think |
11:47.33 | ChoHag | snap |
11:47.35 | AndyMillar | with my new 35 min walk to and from work, and this whole silly idea of stopping smoking, I'll see if I can get down to 100kg :) |
11:47.52 | ChoHag | Unfortunetaly my wife will now do all the cooking so I don't even have a choice. |
11:48.09 | rhowe | heh, well the bike made me fitter, but I don't think I got any lighter |
11:48.19 | rhowe | hopefully some fat turned to muscle |
11:48.20 | AndyMillar | that's what reducing the beer is for |
11:48.20 | ChoHag | Yeah I noticed that. |
11:48.25 | ChoHag | I just ate more to compensate. |
11:48.31 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: and I'm on a diet! |
11:48.52 | ChoHag | I will be from the 1st apparently. |
11:49.07 | ChoHag | I'm enjoying sugar and fah as much as I can in the meantime. |
11:49.09 | ChoHag | fat |
11:49.49 | AndyMillar | nah... I'm just cutting down to a sensible breakfast (i.e. cerial), under a fiver on lunch and a mildly sensible (single pizza or maybe something more sensible when they run out) for dinner |
11:50.09 | AndyMillar | used to go to M&S and spend ~15 on sandwiches and snacks :/ |
11:50.17 | ChoHag | I hate cereal. |
11:50.20 | rhowe | watch the cereals. some of them are not very healthy |
11:50.26 | ChoHag | toast ftw |
11:50.30 | bilarh_ | yeah they're all like 95% carbs |
11:50.31 | rhowe | in fact, most of them |
11:50.41 | AndyMillar | fruit and fibre ftw |
11:50.46 | bilarh_ | then again, cereal is better than muffin :) |
11:50.51 | ChoHag | Mind you, to go back to my 10 stone schooldays, that would be about half a loaf per day. |
11:51.07 | AndyMillar | trying to eat more fibre (and sensible foods) |
11:51.11 | AndyMillar | and eat at the right times |
11:51.12 | ChoHag | I don't think that would work any more what with no more vertical growth. |
11:51.16 | AndyMillar | i.e. dinner at 11pm is bad |
11:51.32 | bilarh_ | bah, fatness comes with the job |
11:51.39 | bilarh_ | well, that's my excuse and i'm sticking to it :D |
11:51.42 | AndyMillar | bilarh_: i'm 115kg :/ |
11:51.49 | rhowe | is 90 |
11:51.51 | bilarh_ | i'm probably about 105-106 |
11:52.00 | rhowe | I think I should be 65-70 |
11:52.02 | bilarh_ | blows rhowe over |
11:52.15 | ChoHag | rhowe: Are you short? |
11:52.18 | AndyMillar | I need to be about 100, and I also need to be not so unfit I can't go to the gym ;p |
11:52.21 | rhowe | g/f is 45 or something silly |
11:52.38 | rhowe | ChoHag: er, a bit. 5'8? |
11:52.47 | AndyMillar | shortie :p |
11:53.07 | ChoHag | That's not that short. |
11:53.11 | ChoHag | 65's a bit on the skinny side. |
11:53.16 | rhowe | wow, might make it into the office just after 12 |
11:53.32 | rhowe | almost at l'pool st |
11:53.56 | bilarh_ | well, i'm about 6'3", and i used to be 11 stones when i was 20-21 |
11:54.10 | bilarh_ | i much prefer being whatever weight i am now :) |
11:54.11 | AndyMillar | I'm 6'5 :/ |
11:54.25 | AndyMillar | and I think 16 stone is probably more sensible than 18 |
11:54.44 | AndyMillar | I'd quite like to fit into a 36" waist again |
11:54.44 | bilarh_ | how much is 16 stone in new money? |
11:54.47 | rhowe | beefcake? |
11:54.47 | AndyMillar | 100kgh |
11:54.50 | AndyMillar | 100kg* |
11:54.51 | bilarh_ | ah ok |
11:55.00 | bilarh_ | i'd like 36" jeans again, yes |
11:55.06 | bilarh_ | at the moment i'm a 38 |
11:55.12 | AndyMillar | 38-40 \o/ |
11:55.18 | bilarh_ | group hug |
11:55.24 | AndyMillar | 16 == 101; 18 = 114 |
11:55.30 | AndyMillar | <o> |
11:55.42 | rhowe | would like 32 again. good 4 inches off that atm |
11:55.42 | bilarh_ | now that i've put on some weight, i do have a cracking rack, though, even if i do say so myself :D |
11:55.43 | AndyMillar | so, if I lost 15kg from my waist I'll be happy :p |
11:55.53 | rhowe | bilarh_: rofl |
11:56.03 | AndyMillar | rhowe: 32'd mean I've got to buy a shit load of new clothes though |
11:56.12 | rhowe | bilarh_: I think I could give the other half a run for her money too |
11:56.21 | bilarh_ | same here :S |
11:56.23 | AndyMillar | has had his 46AAs for years (before he got fat, they're muscle baby0 |
11:56.31 | AndyMillar | s/0/)/ |
11:56.42 | rhowe | AndyMillar: if you're a typical bloke, they're probabky way overdue a refresh anyway :) |
11:56.43 | ChoHag | I keep seeing all these "Lose weight with this amazing technique" adverts. |
11:56.51 | bilarh_ | andymillar: well, that's the thing... before i got fat i had moobs too,but they were solid muscle :) |
11:56.56 | ChoHag | I can't help but think it should just be "stop eating so much fucking food". |
11:56.59 | bilarh_ | now they're nice and cuddly |
11:57.08 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: that's basically the idea |
11:57.12 | bilarh_ | blames his glands |
11:57.19 | AndyMillar | eat less, and eat the right sort of food at the right sort of time |
11:57.24 | rhowe | blames tastebuds |
11:57.27 | AndyMillar | i.e. don't eat a shit load of carbs before going to bed |
11:57.38 | AndyMillar | actually, eat protein before going to bed to increase your metabolism |
11:57.49 | rhowe | steak! |
11:57.56 | AndyMillar | indeed |
11:58.03 | ChoHag | I used to eat toast before bed. |
11:58.15 | rhowe | not very meaty, is it? |
11:58.20 | antiphase | Just eat less, you fat bastards |
11:58.30 | ChoHag | Nope. Tasty though. |
11:58.31 | AndyMillar | toast could quite possibly be the worst thing |
11:58.37 | ChoHag | 4 slices. 8 if I was peckish. |
11:58.50 | ChoHag | With marmite and/or peanut butter. |
11:59.07 | ChoHag | That was in the days when I actually had a metabolism. |
11:59.16 | AndyMillar | heh |
11:59.19 | ChoHag | Sometimes jam... |
11:59.33 | ChoHag | Or lemon curd. I haven't had that in ages. |
11:59.36 | AndyMillar | I'm also going to have to try and eat more regulally |
11:59.38 | AndyMillar | as that's sensible too |
12:25.52 | Mohan | Eating at right time will increase your meatabolism, but if you want to loose weight you should be sticking to oats,salads,soups + some excercise |
12:27.14 | bilarh_ | mohan: and how will you get the protein to repair your body from the excercise with that diet? |
12:27.16 | Mohan | 3 times a week atleast an hour and no alcohol,no fizzy drinks |
12:28.15 | Mohan | bilarh_: you can have chicken/beef in the afternoon. |
12:29.19 | Mohan | I used to be 100, I'm now 85 :) |
12:30.29 | Mohan | Its really boring, I used to stick with tuna/sweetcorn sandwich always. Its as simple as that no pain no gain. |
12:31.45 | Mohan | http://www.iimahd.ernet.in/~jajoo/gmdiet.html |
12:33.04 | Mohan | Has anyone tried that general motors diet ? It seems to work if you follow correctly. but If you want to maintain the result you need to regularly excercise + change your food habits. |
12:33.32 | antiphase | You can always resort to basic thermodynamics and consume less energy than you require |
12:34.02 | ChoHag | Don't be silly. |
12:34.06 | ChoHag | A logical method? |
12:34.09 | ChoHag | Pah! |
12:34.14 | antiphase | It makes little difference what you eat, if you consume the requisite quantity thereof |
12:34.41 | antiphase | wonders about eating nothing but a family size pie a day |
12:34.57 | ChoHag | What size family? |
12:37.50 | ChoHag | If there is a real need to overcomplicate things, measure yourself every day (same time, eg. as port of the morning routine). Record it in a database and plot the trend. |
12:38.06 | antiphase | Apparently, Asda do an 800g steak & kidney pie containing about 1700kcal, for the princely sum of £2.98, or £4 for 2 |
12:38.10 | antiphase | That's cheap eatin' |
12:38.20 | cpufreak | you can get a pasty from the pasty shop for 2.90 |
12:38.24 | cpufreak | which is good enuff for lunch |
12:38.30 | ChoHag | You get what you pay fore |
12:38.34 | ChoHag | for. |
12:38.41 | antiphase | I'm talking about one pie per 24 hour period, augmented only with water |
12:39.16 | ChoHag | I wish BT would fix my internet. |
12:39.28 | ChoHag | Maybe I should pop in to the exchange on my way home with a blunt instrument of some sort. |
12:40.21 | ChoHag | Or maybe even a sharp one. |
12:41.14 | Mohan | Calories reminds me of this calculation, Allowed Adult = 2000, eat whatever but makesure you dont exceed 1500,so each day 500Cal less if you follow that routine, In theory when the total reaches 7000Cal you should be 1Kg less. |
12:42.03 | ChoHag | Not everyone requires the same number of calories. |
12:42.06 | ChoHag | Also, counting them is boring. |
12:42.40 | ChoHag | Just watch your weight. If it goes up too much, eat less. If it goes down too much, eat more. |
12:42.48 | Mohan | Counting them keeps you in control if you are determined to reduce weight. |
12:43.11 | ChoHag | It's still boring though. |
12:43.15 | cpufreak | just exercise more |
12:43.29 | ChoHag | Exercise does little to decrease weight. |
12:43.59 | cpufreak | it burns off calories |
12:44.05 | ChoHag | Yeah but not that many.\ |
12:44.08 | cpufreak | depends |
12:44.18 | ChoHag | It keeps you fit though, which is also helpful. |
12:44.21 | cpufreak | I tend to do about 300-400 calories per morning on the rowing machine |
12:44.24 | cpufreak | when I can be arsed to use it |
12:44.29 | ChoHag | There's also that. |
12:44.30 | cpufreak | and thats in about 30minutes |
12:44.32 | antiphase | kilocalories, n00bz |
12:44.36 | cpufreak | well yeh |
12:44.38 | Mohan | Excercise is boring as well, but its interesting to join some swimming/sports/dance class |
12:44.48 | cpufreak | thats what people infer by tlaking about calories |
12:45.16 | ChoHag | Personally I worry (haha) about my fitness and weight separately. |
12:45.20 | ChoHag | Mostly separately. |
12:45.21 | antiphase | But considering that it takes up to an hour to dispense with that much energy, which you can almost replace by drinking one pint of beer, just being alive for a day uses 8 times as much already |
12:45.25 | antiphase | Exercise is shit |
12:45.44 | ChoHag | Thinking also burns calories. |
12:45.44 | antiphase | It's good for your jam tart though |
12:46.08 | cpufreak | well going skiing for a week end of january ought to burn a few off |
12:46.08 | ChoHag | Do the soduku puzzles on the train in the morning. |
12:47.50 | ChoHag | "your brain uses about 400 calories per day" |
12:48.06 | Mohan | If you are doing cardio based excercise doing the same excercise always will yeild you less results as your body gets so used to it. |
12:48.51 | ChoHag | Working (physically) uses more calories per weight. |
12:48.59 | ChoHag | So the more you weigh, the more calories you burn. |
12:48.59 | cpufreak | antiphase: I think just giving up beer will give you the desired effect you're after |
12:49.16 | antiphase | Me too also |
12:49.19 | Mohan | 1pint = 180 cal roughly |
12:49.26 | Mohan | so think before you drink :P |
12:49.28 | antiphase | Depends what you drink |
12:49.41 | cpufreak | the 1200 calories or so last night in beer + 1000 in the pizza wont have helpd your cut |
12:49.55 | antiphase | I bet there's some winter warmer juice about that's good for the best part of 300/pint |
12:50.07 | ChoHag | Don't forget that a lot of calories are shat out. |
12:50.11 | ChoHag | And they can't be counted. |
12:50.17 | ChoHag | At least not if you want people to come near you. |
12:50.35 | ChoHag | On that note, I think it's time for lunch. |
12:50.46 | Mohan | Thats true, part of the calories you gain due to drinking goes out as heat in or the other way. |
12:50.59 | cpufreak | just eat curry all the time |
12:51.01 | Mohan | s/in/ in one/ |
12:51.02 | cpufreak | sweat it all off |
12:51.33 | antiphase | There's always DNP if you get desperate |
12:51.34 | ChoHag | Oh and you breath out CO2. C => weight, therefore breath more and weight goes down. |
12:52.07 | Mohan | whats DNP ? |
12:57.32 | antiphase | Di-nitro phenol |
12:58.07 | antiphase | Or 2,4-dinitrophenol for the systematic among you iirc |
12:58.56 | antiphase | It interferes with conversion of ATP to energy in muscles or something, making you essentially very inefficient and prone to generating vast quantities of heat instead of movement |
12:59.06 | antiphase | Which can be fatal if used to excess |
12:59.38 | antiphase | But good if you're a body builder and you're trying to get rid of those last pesky few percent of body fat |
13:01.32 | Mohan | just read about that in wiki, sounds scary! |
13:15.20 | bilarh_ | 's trying to get rid of those last 20-30% of body fat |
13:15.47 | bilarh_ | i must have that dnp stuff naturally |
13:15.54 | bilarh_ | whenever i move, i generate vast quantities of heat as well |
13:16.02 | bilarh_ | for not a lot of movement |
13:16.44 | boudiccas | bilarh_, sounds like the human radiator |
13:17.56 | bilarh_ | great, of all the super heroes i could have been, i became "radiator man" |
13:25.31 | ChoHag | Your SO will be grateful. |
13:25.57 | bilarh_ | true, she's "ice cold feet woman" |
13:26.43 | ChoHag | My wife is always cold. |
13:26.51 | AndyMillar | is eating a salad! |
13:26.56 | ChoHag | It takes a day with the heating on to warm her up, and 5 minutes with it off to cool her down. |
13:27.28 | AndyMillar | 1 pack M&S green salad (rocket,watercress,spinach), 200g carrots, 1 tin tuna |
13:41.36 | antiphase | I have meat and meat for lunch |
13:43.30 | cpufreak | goes with your t-shirt ant |
13:43.33 | cpufreak | your pink t-shirt |
13:44.36 | AndyMillar | oh dear |
13:46.25 | ChoHag | ant: Want to borrow my headphones to complete the look? |
13:48.07 | antiphase | I wouldn't want to look like a Japanese schoolgirl as well as gay |
13:48.58 | ChoHag | Do you get 6' japanese schoolgirls? |
13:49.51 | antiphase | Probably only if you stack them |
13:52.03 | ChoHag | That's an enticing image. |
13:55.17 | Leeds | an exciting image? |
13:55.29 | ChoHag | That too. |
14:01.09 | AndyMillar | hmm |
14:01.21 | AndyMillar | appears to feel funny... i wonder if it'll pass |
14:01.33 | ChoHag | ppp has given me the IP 77.44.113.86 |
14:01.35 | AndyMillar | I'm guessing it's tiredness |
14:01.40 | bilarh_ | checks |
14:01.42 | ChoHag | $isp said I have the IP 109.170.148.201 |
14:01.48 | bilarh_ | andymillar: no, you're still not funny ;) |
14:02.02 | ChoHag | If I ping 109.170.148.201, my router responds. |
14:02.11 | AndyMillar | $ whois 109.170.148.201 |
14:02.11 | AndyMillar | Unknown AS number or IP network. Please upgrade this program. |
14:02.14 | AndyMillar | wtf? |
14:02.53 | AndyMillar | mmh, ok, it works somewhere else |
14:03.05 | AndyMillar | bilarh_: ha ha ha |
14:03.11 | ChoHag | Ah. Hmm. Seems they gave me one IP for the connection and a totally different range for the lan. |
14:03.17 | bilarh_ | andymillar: :D |
14:03.29 | antiphase | `whois 109.0.0.0 -h whois.ripe.net` |
14:04.51 | cpufreak | sleepy now |
14:05.23 | antiphase | You should have just had meat like me |
14:05.42 | cpufreak | why the fuck are you using 'murphx'? |
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14:06.06 | cpufreak | 14:05 < cpufreak> why the fuck are you using 'murphx'? |
14:06.29 | ChoHag | shrugs |
14:06.32 | ChoHag | I've no idea what that is. |
14:06.36 | antiphase | "murphx Innovative Solutions Ltd is a leading edge Tier 1 internet and telephony solutions company, providing organisations with advanced feature rich services." |
14:06.39 | cpufreak | 14:06 -!- ChoHag_ [n=mking@109-170-148-202.xdsl.murphx.net] has joined #GLLUG |
14:06.39 | antiphase | Ba ha ha ha ha |
14:06.51 | cpufreak | they're a bunch of clowns |
14:07.05 | ChoHag | How do you get women to stop talking? |
14:07.15 | antiphase | Put a cock in it |
14:07.18 | boudiccas | start listening |
14:07.20 | ChoHag | Hahaha |
14:09.14 | AndyMillar | what antiphase said |
14:10.13 | AndyMillar | oh dear |
14:10.26 | AndyMillar | who the cock are murphx and why the cock are you using them? |
14:11.08 | ChoHag | It was obfuscated. |
14:11.22 | AndyMillar | they're hiring a QA person |
14:11.39 | cpufreak | I just had this discussion with ChoHag. |
14:11.57 | cpufreak | he claims he went through uklinux or something, which was probably where he starting going wrong |
14:11.58 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: how were you conned? |
14:12.01 | AndyMillar | oh |
14:12.02 | AndyMillar | oh dear |
14:12.04 | ChoHag | ukfsn |
14:12.06 | cpufreak | his reasons for going with uklinux was because he wanted 'clue' |
14:12.08 | AndyMillar | even more oh dear |
14:12.15 | antiphase | Or a respect for the Lord |
14:12.19 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: next time you want clue you should really ask in here :) |
14:12.32 | AndyMillar | or just over the other side of the desk by the soudns of it |
14:12.33 | AndyMillar | sounds* |
14:12.34 | ChoHag | ... |
14:12.37 | ChoHag | Here? |
14:12.45 | antiphase | drools |
14:12.48 | AndyMillar | well, ask andy or ant at least :p |
14:12.59 | AndyMillar | we're oppinionated enough |
14:13.08 | cpufreak | andys always have the answer. |
14:13.08 | ChoHag | Anyway I've been with ukfsn for aeons now. |
14:13.18 | AndyMillar | indeed they do :) |
14:13.37 | ChoHag | I'll probably dump them. While Jason does at least know what he's doing, which is what I'm after in an ISP, actually getting ahold of him is ... difficult. |
14:13.54 | AndyMillar | I thought ukfsn was practically dieing anyway :/ |
14:13.59 | ChoHag | It may as well wait until I move house, which ideally will be some time this year. |
14:14.27 | ChoHag | I've been without internet for less than a week and the withdrawal symptoms are less than pleasant. |
14:15.00 | cpufreak | that was pretty long time though |
14:15.09 | AndyMillar | I've been without decent internet for about a year and a half at home |
14:15.11 | cpufreak | even virgin media were able to get me a cable modem + line activated within 48 hours of me phong the up |
14:15.19 | ChoHag | That's because BT are cocks. |
14:15.29 | cpufreak | no |
14:15.36 | cpufreak | when I had a BT phoneline at my last flat |
14:15.39 | cpufreak | and ordered DSL from them |
14:15.45 | cpufreak | I had it activated within 48 hours too |
14:15.55 | ChoHag | That doesn't make BT any less cockish. |
14:16.19 | antiphase | It took 7 days for my apology for a BT DSL service to start working |
14:16.53 | ChoHag | Now the fun of DNS propagation after I forgot to reduce the TTL before the line failed. |
14:17.57 | AndyMillar | awesome |
14:18.04 | AndyMillar | the ukfsn's tax return is overdue |
14:22.20 | cpufreak | that's not that unusual |
14:28.30 | rhowe | hmmm |
14:28.37 | rhowe | is too scared to upgrade his last etch box |
14:28.56 | rhowe | It's an IMAP/POP3/SMTP server with maildirs stored over NFS and auth. via Kerberos to the Windows DCs |
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14:33.38 | cpufreak | rhowe: wuss. |
14:36.33 | ChoHag | Yay! Lots of email from the servers telling me they were offline. |
14:48.09 | AndyMillar | bit late ;;p |
15:01.09 | rhowe | cpufreak: I did an LVM snapshot and I'm doing a trial upgrade on that first :) |
15:01.32 | rhowe | cpufreak: Can tar up the config file changes I make and splat them over the live box as it's upgrading :) |
15:02.47 | rhowe | "ifdown eth0; ifup bond0" - always a fun command to issue remotely :) |
15:03.35 | ChoHag | I've got into the habit of doing those commands in screen. |
15:04.28 | ChoHag | Unlikely as it seems, I think I recall at least one instance of the terminal disappearing halfway through and the net not coming back up. |
15:13.18 | cpufreak | processor: 47 |
15:13.18 | cpufreak | vendor_id: AuthenticAMD |
15:13.18 | cpufreak | cpu family: 16 |
15:13.18 | cpufreak | model: 8 |
15:13.18 | cpufreak | model name: Six-Core AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 8439 SE |
15:13.21 | cpufreak | stepping: 0 |
15:13.23 | cpufreak | cpu MHz: 2793.003 |
15:37.04 | AndyMillar | \o/ |
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16:10.49 | ChoHag | Is it worth catching up on the gllug emails I missed? |
16:11.29 | cpufreak | no |
16:11.31 | cpufreak | delete them |
16:11.33 | cpufreak | unsubscribe |
16:11.38 | ChoHag | haha |
16:11.51 | cpufreak | its one of my interview questions |
16:11.53 | Leeds | I stopped reading them years ago :( |
16:12.00 | cpufreak | "are you subscribed to gllug?" |
16:12.03 | cpufreak | if they say yes, no job. |
16:12.15 | cpufreak | if they said no, should I?, no job |
16:12.35 | cpufreak | if they said , "no, its full of freaks" they can get a job |
16:12.39 | cpufreak | it works quite well |
16:12.50 | cpufreak | alas not everyone here follows my interview technique |
16:14.36 | ChoHag | Oh it's worth a laugh occasionally. |
16:14.41 | cpufreak | no its not |
16:14.51 | Leeds | oh yes it is! |
16:14.53 | cpufreak | looking at xkcd is worth a laugh occasionally |
16:15.08 | cpufreak | looking at gllug mailing list is about as entertaining as rubbing sand in your eyes |
16:15.11 | Leeds | it's still technically panto season, isn't it? |
16:15.18 | cpufreak | no |
16:15.26 | Leeds | damn :( |
16:28.30 | boudiccas | oh yes it is! |
16:32.49 | rhowe | cpufreak: How about "The list dropped me and I never bothered resubscribing"? :) |
16:33.15 | ChoHag | So is #gllug the new #brits? |
16:33.33 | rhowe | well, there goes my testing of the lenny upgrade of the mail server |
16:33.47 | rhowe | SMTP auth works, SMTPS works, IMAPS works, IMAP auth to AD works... |
16:33.53 | rhowe | haven't tried POP3 yet |
16:35.36 | cpufreak | rhowe: too much apathy there |
16:35.50 | rhowe | cpufreak: bleh :P |
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19:10.31 | ChoHag | How can you remove a device's IP with ifconfig? |
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19:27.57 | antiphase | Use `ip address del` |
19:28.29 | ChoHag | ip != ifconfig |
19:28.52 | antiphase | ifconfig is old and rubbishy |
19:28.56 | ChoHag | Doing it with IP isn't a problem, if it's available. |
19:29.09 | ChoHag | It is that, but it's also installed, which is a major point in its favour. |
19:29.31 | antiphase | ifconfig isn't portable, and ip should be available on all Linuxes these days |
19:29.39 | antiphase | If it's not, use some other Linux that's not shite :P |
19:29.50 | ChoHag | It's an embedded system which doesn't have it present. |
19:30.26 | ChoHag | It can be installed but it wasn't. I wondered if it could be done with ifconfig. |
19:30.42 | ChoHag | reboot worked in the end, and that took all of 8 seconds. |
19:30.49 | ChoHag | Most of which was waiting in case I wanted to interrupt it. |
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