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| 07:32.31 | ChoHag | Dell insist on having the wifi led flash as it's being used. |
| 07:32.40 | ChoHag | Very distracting. Especialy in the dark. |
| 08:03.02 | AndyMillar | mornin |
| 08:41.26 | hali | morning |
| 08:54.43 | AndyMillar | ARGH |
| 08:54.48 | AndyMillar | fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck |
| 08:54.49 | AndyMillar | etc |
| 09:01.47 | AndyMillar | power cut last night |
| 09:04.28 | zeroXten | =( |
| 09:08.00 | AndyMillar | quite |
| 09:22.09 | ChoHag | The drainpipe in the sink has frozen. |
| 09:22.42 | bilarh_ | wtf havent you people got heating? :S |
| 09:23.21 | ChoHag | does, but not the central variety. |
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| 09:49.13 | ChoHag | My enter key squeaks. |
| 09:49.53 | Mohan | cool, have fune :) |
| 09:50.08 | Armand | removes Mohan 'e' |
| 09:50.17 | ChoHag | It's a little disconcerting. |
| 09:50.25 | ChoHag | I'm not used to squeaky electronics. |
| 09:50.45 | Armand | So, you don't use a mouse as a 'mouse' ? |
| 09:51.17 | ChoHag | No, they freak out when you stick the wire up their bum. |
| 09:51.36 | Armand | I know.. but they get used to it after a while. |
| 09:52.25 | bilarh_ | i had a mouse as a mouse once |
| 09:52.34 | bilarh_ | it was rubbish, the pointer kept moving on it's own |
| 09:52.48 | bilarh_ | not so good when you've got focus-follows-mouse :( |
| 09:52.53 | bilarh_ | and it peed on the keyboard |
| 09:53.24 | Armand | And, it's a real bitch when the cat chases your only mouse away.. |
| 09:53.48 | Armand | Back to keyboard short-cuts.. and you have to clean up dead mouse. >_< |
| 10:19.03 | wethrin | ChoHag: Try WD40 |
| 10:28.41 | Armand | Damn, I just thought.. I neglected to congratulate Leeds on beating Man Utd.. >_< |
| 10:38.34 | hali | handy, IOS upgrade during office hours.... only one developer noticed i reloaded a 6500 switch.. proves how much work they do :) |
| 10:38.53 | hali | wasn't a full reload, just supervisor failover |
| 10:48.36 | Mohan | will a 5 port desktop switch allows to monitor traffic on the network ? ex http://tinyurl.com/yek3qj7 |
| 10:49.23 | Mohan | or should i get a 5 port hub for the job ? |
| 10:51.55 | bilarh_ | what kind of monitoring are you intending on doing? |
| 10:52.14 | bilarh_ | i'd say if you want to do packet sniffing, you'll need a hub, though :) |
| 10:52.42 | bilarh_ | although that sucks in different ways, of course |
| 10:58.07 | Armand | why not use a gateway/router/whatever machine for monitoring ? |
| 11:27.33 | Mohan | got d/c, ok cool. |
| 11:44.25 | ChoHag | Can you make different domains resolve using different nameservers? |
| 11:44.37 | ChoHag | Without installing a whole nameserver to do it. |
| 11:45.08 | z00dax | I'd do that with a caching-nameserver |
| 11:45.28 | ChoHag | Yeah that's what I'm hoping to avoid if I can. |
| 11:45.28 | z00dax | what makes you need this anyway ? do you have partitioned namespace ? |
| 11:45.33 | ChoHag | A bit heavyweight. |
| 11:45.56 | ChoHag | To use $work's NS for $work's domains, but mine for the rest. |
| 11:46.07 | ChoHag | Otherwise half my LAN disappears. |
| 11:48.43 | z00dax | you might be able to do something in nsswitch and have it loop the dns |
| 11:49.00 | z00dax | or then a bigass hosts file for your own lan dns :) |
| 11:49.07 | wethrin | You're Doing It Wrong. HTH |
| 11:49.22 | z00dax | humm no - you said you want * to go via your own dns |
| 11:49.47 | ChoHag | It doesn't H, no. |
| 11:50.22 | z00dax | do you have access to your own DNS server ? why not send *.workdomain lookups to the $word DNS from there ? |
| 11:50.27 | z00dax | and only cache/proxy for the rest |
| 11:50.44 | ChoHag | Because the router is not on the VPN. |
| 11:52.18 | z00dax | ChoHag: dnsmasq -S |
| 11:52.31 | z00dax | and use the -R as well to not have /etc/resolv.conf be used at all |
| 11:52.36 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: you're really doing it wrong |
| 11:53.27 | ChoHag | That's all very well, but it works. |
| 11:53.33 | AndyMillar | and 'm assuming that you're VPN'ing home from work for this to work? |
| 11:53.52 | ChoHag | No. I'm at home, using the VPN to connect to work. |
| 11:54.12 | z00dax | humm |
| 11:54.13 | AndyMillar | why not make your router connect to the vpn? |
| 11:54.33 | z00dax | is default route being pushed via the vpn as well ? |
| 11:54.44 | AndyMillar | no, it won't be |
| 11:55.01 | ChoHag | Because I don't want or need the whole network here connected. Just this laptop. |
| 11:55.14 | ChoHag | The default route could be set if I wanted it to be. |
| 11:55.48 | z00dax | if its not, then why do you want to split DNS ? does $work LAN have its internal dns which isnt exposed over the interwebs |
| 11:55.57 | ChoHag | Da. |
| 11:55.59 | ChoHag | As does mine. |
| 11:56.01 | AndyMillar | z00dax: yes |
| 11:56.23 | z00dax | anyway, must run. dnsmasq -R -S is what you want, it can subnet split or ip to namespace split |
| 11:56.34 | AndyMillar | hell, ChoHag's employer even uses local addresses for their ticketing system |
| 11:56.46 | z00dax | otherwise, pytwisted and about 45 minutes of work should give you a non-high-performance solution that works on localhost:53 |
| 11:57.01 | AndyMillar | Mohan: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/159761 might be what you want |
| 11:57.30 | z00dax | come to think of it, i didnt realise ChoHag had an employer. |
| 11:57.46 | z00dax | last i remember was something about jobless state |
| 11:57.56 | z00dax | i clearly need to pay more attention. |
| 11:58.13 | ChoHag | If that were still the case, I wouldn't be online. |
| 11:58.27 | ChoHag | Nor would I be at home, unless a bridge can count as a home. |
| 11:59.15 | AndyMillar | Mohan: seeing if it'll do a mirror port |
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| 12:01.04 | AndyMillar | someone else goes to/works at IC! |
| 12:02.22 | stu__ | AndyMillar, could be deceptive, I think I am in here at least twice! |
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| 12:03.33 | AndyMillar | ah, you're in here twice :) |
| 12:04.21 | AndyMillar | and I keep forgetting what cv. is - but I've found it again |
| 12:04.34 | stu__ | civil engineering |
| 12:04.38 | wethrin | I've never met a civil engineer |
| 12:04.40 | wethrin | (ho ho) |
| 12:04.49 | AndyMillar | "ha ha" |
| 12:05.35 | AndyMillar | mmh, who the hell named kraken? |
| 12:06.42 | stu__ | all my machines are named after mythical sea monsters |
| 12:09.00 | stu__ | there is no policy at ic (afaik) for naming machines sensibly if they aren't running windows, so i take advantage of it |
| 12:10.13 | stu__ | people in my office run windows and have rememberable machine names like ab-cde01-3 which gets confusing if you have a lot of machines |
| 12:11.26 | AndyMillar | yeah, i can imagine |
| 12:31.47 | Mohan | AndyMillar: that switch seems to do what i want, thanks. |
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| 12:32.30 | AndyMillar | Mohan: it's the cheapest "sensible" managed switch i've seen |
| 12:32.48 | dick_turpin | Afternoon All |
| 12:33.55 | AndyMillar | 'noon |
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| 14:07.09 | wethrin | I use a Cisco switch at home. It's managed, and was sensibly priced |
| 14:09.48 | z00dax | wethrin: did you pay for it in Gold or Kidneys ? |
| 14:10.21 | wethrin | neither |
| 14:17.45 | hali | anyone need a desktop pc? i have a core2duo with 2gb, decent graphics (NV 8800GT i think) and some other fluff i need to get rid of, 19" screen too |
| 14:18.06 | hali | and a HTPC style box, similar spec but 4gb |
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| 15:26.37 | Mohan | hali: whats the price ? |
| 15:29.01 | Mohan | I might be intrested in the cpu alone, if you could give me the full specs and price. |
| 15:30.04 | bilarh_ | how much for the htpc box? |
| 15:30.07 | bilarh_ | and is it the blue one? |
| 15:32.17 | Mohan | bilarh_: does the color really matters ? |
| 15:32.46 | bilarh_ | mohan: yes, obviously if it's a htpc box |
| 15:34.12 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: There's no porn on it |
| 15:34.16 | Mohan | I havent seen htpc style box other than white/black/black+gray colors |
| 15:34.35 | bilarh_ | mohan: that's because you haven't seen hali's case |
| 15:34.45 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: that's ok, it's a htpc box so i'll just wifi to some porn site |
| 15:35.08 | bilarh_ | then i can enjoy it on my tv |
| 15:35.10 | bilarh_ | every last inch of it |
| 15:35.16 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Ask him if it comes with the remote |
| 15:35.40 | bilarh_ | you ask him |
| 15:35.41 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: You should get a discount if there's no remote |
| 15:36.32 | bilarh_ | oh, i like the sound of a discount |
| 15:37.29 | Mohan | I do like the sound of it |
| 15:37.53 | dick_turpin | Is there a display? Its gotta have a funky display |
| 15:38.14 | bilarh_ | dick_turpin: ask him if it comes with the display |
| 15:38.24 | bilarh_ | oh you did already |
| 15:38.36 | dick_turpin | Sheesh the people think they can give away any old tat ;-) |
| 15:39.21 | dick_turpin | these people |
| 15:39.48 | bilarh_ | maybe i can part ex a packet of gum for it |
| 15:39.54 | bilarh_ | and some money my way :) |
| 15:39.55 | hali | bilarh_: it's the black one i used to have under my telly... silverstone orsomething like that |
| 15:40.03 | bilarh_ | hali: aha, cool |
| 15:40.04 | hali | can i get 150 quid each for them? |
| 15:40.26 | hali | the htpc box has got a few large disks, 400gb, 250 and a 1tb i think |
| 15:40.33 | hali | and a 1.5tb but im keeping that :P |
| 15:40.39 | bilarh_ | how noisy is it? i can't remember |
| 15:40.44 | dick_turpin | clutches his wallet and staggers around |
| 15:41.10 | hali | not too bad... i replaced the cpu fan about a year ago and haven't used it much since |
| 15:41.25 | bilarh_ | hmm, ok |
| 15:41.27 | hali | i think the PSU fan could do with replacing if you want the noise level down |
| 15:41.36 | bilarh_ | i'll have a word with swmbo |
| 15:41.42 | hali | do it! |
| 15:41.42 | bilarh_ | she was looking at getting one |
| 15:42.14 | hali | add a tuner card and it should be pretty cool |
| 15:42.17 | bilarh_ | did it have a tv card as well? |
| 15:42.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh_: Don't bother I can be her entertainment centre if you like :-) |
| 15:42.24 | bilarh_ | ah ok, that answers the question :) |
| 15:42.33 | hali | i had a usb dongle for a while, which sucked... so i gave it to my kiwi colleauge |
| 15:42.56 | hali | i'll throw in a tb or smut |
| 15:42.58 | Mohan | hali: whats the spec for that machine ? |
| 15:45.16 | hali | Mohan: core2duo E6400 2.13GHz, 4x1gb ddr2, 7300GT fanless graphics, two or three disks (at least 650gb total), abit ab9 pro motherboard, no optical drive built in but i can throw in an external USB DVD if required (looks cool, i had the pc in the cupboard and the dvd drive on top of it) |
| 15:46.55 | hali | the desktop pc has Core 2 Duo E6750, Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, 2048MB and some drives (probably 1x250 and 1x300) |
| 15:47.04 | hali | not selling them in bits if i can avoid it |
| 15:55.26 | Mohan | its E6750 processor and 550gb hdd, 4gb or 2gb ram ? |
| 15:56.17 | hali | the machine with the e6750 has 2gb |
| 15:56.28 | Mohan | so its 2 machines is it ? |
| 15:56.32 | hali | yes |
| 15:57.31 | Mohan | does the second one has any graphics card ? and whats the price for it ? |
| 15:57.56 | hali | second one has a 8800GT-something |
| 15:58.12 | hali | don't know how much it's worth, do you need a screen? have a spare 19" |
| 15:58.24 | hali | dick_turpin: 150 or so? |
| 15:59.04 | Mohan | Is that price inclusive of screen or without screen ? |
| 15:59.18 | hali | without, 30 quid and it's yours :) |
| 16:00.45 | Mohan | can I pm you ? |
| 16:00.50 | hali | sure |
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| 23:04.48 | rhowe | http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Laptops/Netbooks/Arianet+V2+Minibook+7%22+ARM+920+?productId=36193 |
| 23:04.51 | rhowe | Interesting - if it had 1G of RAM and ran Linux instead of WinCE, I'd be interested |
| 23:36.15 | Mohan | Its snowing.............. |