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00:09.23gw280cuddles Leeds
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00:26.54Leedsmorning george
00:27.24gw280hi
00:27.38Leedshow's life?
00:28.09gw280good
00:28.12gw280living in canadaland now
00:28.41Leedsah, nice and warm
00:28.58gw280warmer than the UK :P
00:29.01gw280only -5 in toronto today
00:29.19gw280I mean, I leave the UK and all hell breaks loose
00:29.26gw280can't leave you lot alone for one second can I?
00:29.56Leedshey, nothing to do with me - it's the coldest day of the year so far here - 10C at 8am
00:30.06LeedsI haven't lived in the UK for many years
00:31.09Leedsgoing up to northern China - just south of Siberia - in a few weeks... looking at a low of -35 there
00:32.09gw280hurrah
00:32.16gw280it was -60 in Edmonton a while back
00:32.36Leedsthat's quite cold...
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00:32.45gw280yes
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01:31.00z00daxgw280: !
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02:44.30gw280z00dax: !!!
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09:21.59mindbendrgood morning
09:22.13Leedsgood afternoon
09:28.42z00dax'lo
09:28.49z00daxthe n900 is starting to look quite attractive
09:29.02z00daxgw280: does it have a NX client yet!
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11:45.32ChoHagBeing concerned about radiation exposure and focusing your energy on nuclear energy makes about as much sense as being concerned about cholesterol and therefore eating steak and fried chicken because you’re concerned about the cholesterol in the salad dressing.
11:46.30bilarh_nuclear energy ftw
11:48.10ChoHagAye.
11:48.25ChoHagIt's too expensive to run my computers.
11:48.48bilarh_in fact, with the spate of cold weather we've had lately, i'm gonna change to "coal ftw"
11:48.49wethrinNukular. It's pronounced nukular
11:49.32wethrinhippies-- # controlling the radiation is easy
11:49.53ChoHagNuclear kills!
11:49.53wethrinDisposal is Not Hard - just drop it in the sea
11:49.53ChoHag"In 1964, the cows exposed to about 150 rads after the Trinity A-Bomb test in 1946 were quietly euthanized because of extreme old age."
11:50.14wethrinSo it helps you live longer?
11:50.33ChoHagIf you're a cow.
11:51.06bilarh_wehtrin should consider it. then
11:51.08bilarh_and boudiccas
11:53.04wethrinooooh, get you!
11:54.28bilarh_:D
11:54.44bilarh_prepares the milking machine
12:05.40AndyMillarah boy
12:05.46AndyMillarwonders how to fix openfire
12:13.06haliAndyMillar: ejabberd is the nuts
12:13.16haliand written in erlang, well cool
12:23.09boudiccasbilarh_, :(
12:27.17AndyMillaropenfiler*
12:45.55z00daxAndyMillar: what do you use openfiler for ?
12:46.07z00daxits mostly just a wrapper around the cli
12:47.03rhowez00dax: N900's looking very expensive
12:47.11rhowez00dax: The Nexus is 2/3 the price
12:47.31z00daxthe n900 is way better
12:48.09z00daxits a good phone, gps works well, it runs git has a set of good editors, a proper keyboard
12:49.04z00daxquite likely to replace phone + laptop; for on the move stuff. and it has a NX client too
12:50.15z00daxand sshfs to the storage box at home, for on-demand-streaming of podcasts / videos etc :D
12:50.43z00daxalthough, I'm using the n810 at the moment. the n900 I've only played with for about 10 min
12:51.06wethrinThe GPS in the N810 was awful
12:51.49z00daxits quite ok if you have internet access at the time
12:52.02z00daxI usually get sync in a few seconds - maybe 25 sec at the most
12:52.16z00daxwithout the 'assisted' mode - its a bit slow catching up :)
12:54.03Mohann900 is fast when it comes to ssh stuff/web browsing, but has fm radio disabled though. inbuilt online streaming radio works.
12:56.26MohanThere is no ovi maps loader out yet for n900, so gps maps works well only if you are in a well connected area.
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12:57.44z00daxdoes maemo mapper not work ?
12:59.42MohanI didnt find it in the apps repo, i've got the devel-repo enabled as well.
13:03.46z00daxits listed as released for maemo5 / fremantle
13:04.15dick_turpinSo the woman who gets the provisions such as milk, tea etc has been off ill since Jan 4 which means we have just about run out of milk
13:04.15dick_turpinOf course nobody will lower themselves to go to the shop and buy some.
13:04.15dick_turpinThe one boss pinched the remaining quarter of a pint we had yesterday
13:04.15dick_turpinI went to steal it back this morning where upon I found ours and a full carton in their fridge!
13:04.15dick_turpinThat's just mean IMO
13:05.45z00daxMohan: http://maemo.org/downloads/Maemo5/navigation/ its not listed there, i guess its still in the build / devel repo's somewhere
13:06.36Mohansearches again now.
13:08.51MohanI've enabled extras-devel and its not listed there as well, probably will have to install it manually then.
13:09.15z00daxdont do that :)
13:09.37z00daxspeak with the developers, they have a list - see whats going on, perhaps they are just waiting on some specific tests that you could help with
13:10.02z00dax( I *am* guessing though )
13:11.32Mohanhttp://my-maemo.com/faq/showquestion.php?faq=4&fldAuto=16
13:15.08Mohanhttp://my-maemo.com/software/applications.php?name=Maemo_Mapper&fldAuto=814&faq=38 this is the right link.
13:16.57z00daxI'd still see why its not in extras/
13:19.53MohanIt seems its in extras but not listed in navigation, but listed in other and its an alpha release.
13:33.49dick_turpinHm is that job real? http://mailman.lug.org.uk/pipermail/linuxjobs/2010-January/000425.html I *Don't* have the skills but I'm tempted to apply and try to blag my way through
13:34.17ChoHagdick_turpin: There's nothing like office life to remind you that we never left the school playground.
13:34.46ChoHagThat and politics.
13:35.21wethrinBlagging can be hard
13:35.36dick_turpinChoHag: Its this bit that worries me: *  Laid-back office with table football and Mortal Kombat machine (and more games on their way)
13:35.47dick_turpinwethrin: Not for me :-)
13:36.08ChoHagOh is this the start of dot-com boom two-point-oh?
13:36.36ChoHagAnd presumabely you're referring to the list vacancy.
13:36.42ChoHagI just saw 'rails' and ignored it.
13:37.28dick_turpinChoHag: Um the linuxjobs one, Manchester is only 70 mile away
13:45.48wethrinHow much do you know about virtualisation and BGP, then?
13:46.00bilarh_boudiccas:
13:46.02bilarh_boudiccas: :D
13:48.57dick_turpinwethrin: I know a bit about virtualisaton
13:51.03z00daxdick_turpin: http://www.uknof.org.uk/uknof15/
13:51.40z00daxshould get you everything you need to get a clear'ish head on state of networking etc in the UK :)
13:51.49z00daxits not far from you either
13:52.10dick_turpinNow thats more like it "15:30 Naked BGP"
14:18.09AndyMillarz00dax: 18tb of storage I play with
14:22.28z00daxAndyMillar: i worked on the openfiler codebase for a bit
14:22.34z00daxjust a short bit :)
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15:07.36AndyMillarz00dax: ah, everything's broken and giving me 403's
15:08.46z00daxi did not do anything with that! my work ( and this is about 4 years back ) was working on the iscsi and shadow copy stuff in cifs
15:22.58AndyMillarawesome
15:23.03AndyMillar<PROTECTED>
15:24.20z00daxhow did you manage that
15:28.20AndyMillarbuggery knows :;
15:28.21AndyMillar:/
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17:32.51gw280ello
17:32.56wethrinello gw280
17:33.00wethrinshouldn't you be working?
17:33.02gw280z00dax: no NX on Maemo from me
17:33.05gw280I am working, you noobhat
17:33.09wethrinclearly
17:33.11gw280waiting for a git rebase
17:33.37gw280so I bought an imac
17:33.48wethrinas you do
17:33.51gw280yeah
17:33.55gw28027" one :D
17:33.57wethrinyou earn too much
17:33.58gw280it's big and yummy
17:34.11gw280I do?
17:34.15wethrinI have a Macbook Pro. It's shiny.
17:34.20gw280http://vm.gwright.org.uk/images/view.php?display=images/Toronto/home.jpg&width=800&height=600
17:34.31wethrinYeah, if you buy an iMac just because you were bored waiting for a git rebase
17:34.33z00daxgw280: check it
17:34.35gw280also: yay, Toronto: http://vm.gwright.org.uk/images/index.php?dir=images/Toronto
17:34.49gw280wethrin: nah, I bought it a while back... but it was an impulse buy
17:34.54gw280z00dax: check what?
17:34.57wethrinit still looks shiny
17:35.05wethrinalso, fsphpgallery sucks
17:35.09gw280yes
17:35.10gw280yes it does
17:35.21wethrinand it appears to no longer be maintained
17:35.24gw280yes
17:35.30gw280a KDE devel friend of mine wrote it
17:35.33gw280and I helped a bit
17:35.48wethrinYeah. I looked at the PHP code. It sucks.
17:35.48gw280back in 2004 or so
17:35.50z00daxhow'se canada ?
17:35.53gw280it's almost as I'm not a PHP coder
17:35.54gw280z00dax: great!
17:36.00gw280z00dax: look at the photos :D
17:36.30z00daxit looks like you live in an ikea model house, about 20 feet by 15 feet
17:36.34gw280:P
17:36.37gw280it's an apartment
17:36.42gw280a lot of it is ikea furnished, yes
17:36.45z00daxwhy is everything in a straight line!
17:36.55gw280because I'm german and everything MUST BE PERPENDICULAR
17:37.48gw280do you not like my apartment then? :(
17:37.57gw280I think it's pretty good for a pimply 21 year old living on his own!
17:38.12z00daxtrue
17:38.31z00daxare you going to come for fosdem ?
17:38.38gw280no
17:38.43gw280I need all my holiday time for other stuff
17:38.49gw280I only get 20 days a year
17:38.50gw280or so
17:39.07gw280well 15 days + christmas to new year
17:39.14gw280+ an extra 5 this year
17:39.42gw280so glad I'm out of university
17:39.42gw280:D
17:39.46z00daxwhat exactly are you doing out there anyway ?
17:39.51gw280webkit development
17:40.19z00daxfor appliances / mobiles ?
17:40.27gw280I work for RIM
17:40.29gw280go figure :P
17:40.38antiphaserim job!
17:40.44z00daxI have a rim product, it sux
17:40.44gw280antiphase: YES WE ALL KNOW
17:40.55gw280antiphase: cf. http://rim.jobs/
17:41.15gw280z00dax: which one?
17:41.35gw280I have a bberry bold 9700 at the moment
17:41.45z00daxits one of the curve ones. 8900 maybe
17:42.35gw280I have one of those too
17:42.37gw280it's not great
17:42.39z00daxyes, its te 8900
17:42.41z00daxno its not
17:42.53gw280I don't care, they pay me money
17:49.10gw280oh yes
17:49.13gw280http://vm.gwright.org.uk/toronto-scarb.jpg
17:52.30z00daxlooks like something out of totalrecall
17:53.03z00daxnot really a big fan of high density housing
17:53.08z00daxnow, hometime!
17:53.30gw280BYE!
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18:04.03kjshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uwY3sjqYX0
18:29.19gw280HAI!
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18:46.27cityLightshi all,
18:46.38cityLightswhich tool to use to write html?
18:47.00cityLightsI tried oowriter and save as html - table is totally off-side
19:06.08boudiccasbluefish
19:06.29wethrintoo late
19:09.13boudiccasstory of my life ....... too late! :(
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20:19.41z00daxgw280: guess you will be around for OLS then
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20:27.28cityLights~seen Leeds
20:27.31ibotleeds is currently on #gllug (3h 55m 52s), last said: 'good afternoon'.
20:27.45cityLightsLeeds: hay mate
20:28.19cityLightswhat is the way to write a static html page?
20:28.50cityLightsopen office formats html bad , and I am allready working with an editor
20:29.42z00daxuse a text editor like gedit / vim / emacs
20:29.51cityLightsthanks
20:29.55z00daxor bluefish
20:30.06z00daxwhich is slightly more html/css/js oriented
20:30.13cityLightsso I should have two windows? one for bluefish the other firefox?
20:30.27z00daxyou can do whatever you like, :)
20:30.44z00daxits been a while since i looked - but i think bluefish might have an inbuilt preview mode
20:31.25cityLightsso, how do ppl write good static html? what is the way it works?
21:35.04Mohangeany is also nice light weight IDE for small scripts/static pages ..
22:18.31gw280z00dax: unlikely
22:18.41gw280z00dax: need to use all my holiday time going to Europe
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