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08:21.00wethrinmtd: I'm off to Fosdem
08:21.19ChoHagSome bright spark decided to rename my video outputs from FOO/FOO-NUM to FOONUM and my xrandr scripts left me looking at my monitor sideways.
08:21.28wethrinha
08:22.13ChoHagI wonder if they've also made the intel driver not suck.
08:22.18ChoHagBut I doubt it.
08:24.39wethrinI'm being made to use a Linux desktop at work. It appears to be Gnome based
08:24.40wethrinIt sucks
08:24.59ChoHagForced to use gnome?
08:25.08ChoHagThey might as well give you a mac.
08:25.12wethrinMmm. It's the University's 'official' Linux thing
08:25.15wethrinI wouldn't mind a Mac
08:26.21ChoHagBut you wouldn't use osx on it right?
08:26.23ChoHagRight?
08:27.06DiscordianUKYou'd prefer KDE?
08:27.11ChoHagNope.
08:27.21ChoHagToo much like Windows.
08:27.24DiscordianUKXFCE?
08:27.28ChoHagOr Windows is too much like it, I can never tell.
08:27.41wethrinI like OS X
08:27.43wethrinso nyerr
08:27.57ChoHagNot xfce.
08:28.07wethrinIf made to use Linux, my desktop of choice would be Afterstep/Openstep
08:28.14ChoHagI tried that on my wife on our ancient hardware but it sucked.
08:28.41DiscordianUKlikes Gnome
08:28.41bilarhxfce is the dogs
08:28.50wethrinIf I wanted a piss-poor Windows clone, I'd use ReactOS
08:29.12bilarhstarts a religious war with discordian and chohag
08:29.31wethrinIf I want Unix, I want Unix
08:29.42bilarhair drops propaganda posters over wethrins desk
08:30.01DiscordianUKSolaris still has CDE for the win#
08:30.12bilarhgod cde is the shittiest thing ever, isn't it
08:30.17bilarhi prefer 9wm to it :)
08:30.17ChoHagSolaris would.
08:30.20wethrinMmmm, CDE. For that real 1980s feel :-)
08:30.35wethrinbreaks out the VT500s
08:30.37DiscordianUKchuckles
08:31.24ChoHaghttp://www.morudzone.com/mm/images/1984_Ascot_VT500.jpg
08:31.37wethrinOooh
08:31.52ChoHagLooks good to me.
08:46.40zaarggood morning
08:46.54zaargfosdem...
08:46.56zaargcontemplates
08:47.17zaargall the cool kids use a tiling window manager
08:47.46DiscordianUKWhich are tiling window managers?
08:48.07zaargxmonad, ion, dwm
08:48.10zaargawesome
08:48.13zaargthere's quite a few now
08:48.33DiscordianUKOh those didn't like them
08:49.06ChoHagI've never got the hang of those.
08:49.14zaargtake a while to get the hang of
08:49.35DiscordianUKA little bit too minimalist for me
08:49.45DiscordianUKI like to have one workspace per app
09:25.38wethrinWoo. 1GB of memory is not enough to run FC12 + Seamonkey + VMWare
09:26.11DiscordianUKlaughs
10:49.14mtdwethrin: will you be there for the beer night?
10:49.29wethrinOf course
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11:47.22z00daxfosdem!
11:48.33wethrinFosdem!
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12:04.05dick_turpinAfternoon All
12:04.06wethrindick_turpin: Come to Fosdem!
12:07.03dick_turpinwethrin: No money :-(
12:07.08wethrinbooo
12:07.15wethrinBut you should be raking it in, with your sales job
12:07.49dick_turpinwethrin: Stop taking the piss you know the conditions I work under
12:08.06wethrinyou need to pocket some extra money, you do
12:09.23dick_turpinwethrin: I know, I just cant seem to get the breaks :-(
12:10.14wethrinGet a new job!
12:10.57dick_turpinTried and failed :-(
12:11.33AndyMillardick_turpin: move down south
12:12.07dick_turpinHm,? Leave the wife and kids? Its a thought ;-)
12:12.19AndyMillarbring them with you?
12:12.29AndyMillar(though more fool you for having a wife and kids ;))
12:13.24zaargoh crap, fosdem is in three days
12:13.30zaargloads up the internet
12:13.45dick_turpinAndyMillar: You must be joking my misses would have a fit, this is the woman who while in Rome said "I want some proper food" then promptly made me take her to McDonalds and an Indian!
12:14.12wethrinmmm, curry
12:17.20DiscordianUKMcD versus a pollo surpresa and zabligione
12:17.31DiscordianUKwhat a dilemma
12:19.10zaargwhen in rome, do as the romans do
12:19.14zaargnot sure how that is relevant really
12:19.32wethrinThe Romans would sometimes eat McDs, I assume
12:19.35DiscordianUKAhh KFC then as usual
12:23.55zaargis this lpi cert thnig well-respected?
12:24.12DiscordianUKfairly yeah
12:24.30DiscordianUKI'd rather have RHCE
12:24.42wethrinRHCE is more a hands-on cert
12:24.49zaargif i have a phd in a non-techy subject, and no qualifcations but nevertheless good linux skills, can i get a job as a sysadmin?
12:24.58wethrinYes
12:25.39wethrinthis is where having an LPI cert is handy
12:25.39ChoHagWhether you should, however, is another question entirely.
12:25.43wethrinof course
12:25.50dick_turpinWhat about if I don't have a phd?
12:25.53ChoHagAnd the answer is no.
12:26.03wethrindick_turpin: Then you've lost already.
12:26.19dick_turpinjumps off the car park roof
12:27.23zaargi should probably just do this lpi thing then. it's quite cheap.
12:27.40zaargChoHag: i need to do something apparently :(
12:27.55ChoHagYeah but sysadminning isn't it.
12:28.36wethrinBe an academic. It's far better
12:28.45wethrincoughs quietly in a corner
12:29.11wethrin(except now, when there's no money)
12:29.14dick_turpinzaarg: I own http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/?CMP=ILC-GG7423313304&ATT=lpicertnut2
12:29.27dick_turpinand http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0789731274
12:29.39wethrinLPI Level 1 is trivial Unixy stuff
12:29.42zaargwell there's also this cisco thing
12:29.49wethrinCisco is expensive
12:29.49dick_turpinI was gonna take the LPI
12:29.51zaargi don't see why they have to brand things
12:30.04wethrinErr. Because the cisco training deals with Cisco routers?
12:30.05dick_turpinCant even afford that :-(
12:30.19wethrindick_turpin: I paid ?20 for my LPI cert
12:30.32DiscordianUK20 quid?
12:30.37zaargit seems to be the standard i know about networking cert too
12:30.47wethrinYep. 10 per exam
12:30.54wethrinmight have been 15 for the second one, actually
12:31.10DiscordianUKthat's not bad at all
12:31.11wethrinThey were doing them cheap at one of the Linux expos
12:31.23wethrinso I decided it was worth burning ?20 for a bit of paper
12:31.35dick_turpinwethrin: Yeah £20 exam £1500 train fare
12:31.51wethrinI wasn't living that far from London at the time
12:32.12dick_turpinI also own http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0072255390/202-3558050-5287063?v=glance&n=266239&v=glance
12:32.27dick_turpinAnd the RHCE one
12:32.43dick_turpinNot that any of them have done me any good
12:32.49zaargdick_turpin: thanks
12:33.43AndyMillarkeeps meaning to do a RHCE
12:33.49dick_turpinOther books I own, although the list is out of date http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/component/content/article/39-bookslinux/140-books-i-own-2006
12:35.14wethrinHmmm. It's 75 EUR/exam in Fosdem. Just not worth it
12:35.16zaargi would do the academic thing, but i've come to the realisation that i am actually quite a shallow person who values money too much
12:35.33wethrinOh. Then move up to the Frozen North
12:35.45dick_turpinAndyMillar: My mate Ade Bradshaw AKA bald_hero (LugRadio presenter) has just passed RHCT RHCE then promptly got a job at RH Farnbourgh as a trainer! Now that's what you call a jammy bastard
12:35.52DiscordianUKI have a bookcase full of O'Reillys
12:36.12wethrinThe academics get paid the same, but the cost of living is lower
12:36.31dick_turpintaps wethrin for a few quid
12:36.43DiscordianUKI've noticed the cost of living is lower here in WYorks
12:37.01wethrinDiscordianUK: Ahh, you're not in London any more?
12:37.15DiscordianUKNot at the moment
12:37.37DiscordianUKI shall be returning end of month
12:38.02zaargi'll swap you the o'reillys for a bookcase of marxist texts if you like
12:38.12zaargi came from up north, and they don't want me back
12:38.18zaargbeside it's cold up north
12:38.25wethrinIt's stopped snowing now...
12:38.31dick_turpinzaarg: All property is theft
12:38.43DiscordianUKI have all of Lenin's Collected Works ta zaarg
12:40.40zaargi suggest you set them on fire :>
12:41.33DiscordianUKThey won't burn the house got flooded
12:41.50DiscordianUKI guess I should say I had a bookcase of O'Reillys
12:42.00DiscordianUKI doubt they're much use anymore
12:44.21dick_turpinYeah its all GUI wizards now not like when I first started using Linux http://neuro.me.uk/2009/03/22/the-four-ubuntu-yorkshiremen/
12:45.19DiscordianUKI'm proper old skool
12:45.33DiscordianUKGrew up on System V R2.1
12:45.52DiscordianUKIn the miniroot if you were fixing things didn't even get ls
12:46.12DiscordianUKused to have to use echo * to see what files there were
12:51.36haliim surprised the shell supported globbing back then
12:53.11dick_turpinIt didn't DiscordianUK had to issue the command then time warp forward 5 years to read the output
12:54.30DiscordianUKHeh /bin/ed was the only editor
12:54.54DiscordianUKI remember having to fsck / and halt after the fsck
12:55.02DiscordianUKThen do it again
12:55.18DiscordianUKUntil the entire superblock was clean
12:55.28DiscordianUKas it wouldn't fit in RAM
12:56.08DiscordianUKSysV didn;t get filesystem hardening till R3
14:11.48mtdyou guys had filesystems when you started using computers?
14:11.52mtd(here we go :))
14:11.56wethrinyou had an editor!? Luxury! We had to make do with twiddling bits
14:12.05DiscordianUKErrr sure
14:12.39DiscordianUKi had a PDP-8/L
14:12.56dick_turpinBits? bits? We had a bit of wire and some Valves
14:13.19wethrinvalves!? You had valves!?
14:14.04dick_turpinOh and Solid State Drives which apparently back then was crap but now is excellent! Go figure?
14:15.42DiscordianUKDrums
14:19.30haliz00dax: xfsdump in extras has mockbuild as file owner
14:20.34dick_turpinOh how we laughed as CYB just asked me if I had a hair dryer
14:24.12bilarhdick_turpin: what's his opinion on the RHCE?
14:24.45dick_turpinbilarh: Difficulty?
14:24.56bilarhyeah and just in general
14:25.56bilarhi.e. is it worth doing for anything else but a holiday from the office? :)
14:27.23dick_turpinbilarh: I can find out his score if you like, I don't think he had too much trouble but then he has been an RH fanboy since I've known him about 10+ years now.
14:27.36bilarhok
14:27.48bilarhi'm hopefully doing my fasttrack course in march
14:27.58dick_turpinbilarh: He was working as a Sysadmin for ages then just handed his notice in, did the exams then started applying for jobs
14:28.16Mohantroubleshooting questions are slightly confusing in RHCE, if you can clear it the rest of the stuff is straigh forward.
14:28.33dick_turpinIn total I think he was out of work for a month and half
14:29.00dick_turpinBut he was cramming/testing during that time
14:29.17bilarhok
14:29.30bilarhis it true you get a computer and then told to "fix it"? :)
14:30.02MohanAnd the sda part is if you dont get the troubleshooting right, even if you score 100% your paper is invalid.
14:30.10Mohans /sda /sad/
14:30.22dick_turpinbilarh: I heard that, again I'll check
14:30.32Mohanyeah its a hands on exam.
14:30.34zaargdo they have twenty-four hour pubs/clubs/cafes/train stations in belgium?
14:30.37zaarghas a cunning plan
14:30.54z00daxhali: ah interesting, will pass that onto Ralph
14:31.09dick_turpinzaarg: You gonna work the punters? Euew
14:31.44bilarhdick_turpin: is it work if he enjoys it?
14:32.02bilarhmohan: coolness
14:32.27dick_turpinbilarh: Enjoy it? He had a wet one when they offered him a job its his dream employer
14:35.28bilarhhehe :)
14:35.59bilarhyou missed the attack, then :P
14:36.07bilarhor was it me who missed teh follow up? :D
14:38.20zaarghmm!
14:38.48bilarh:D
14:41.40LeedsARGH, unexpected landlady negotiation
14:42.42bilarhwhy what's up?
14:42.48Leedsshe seems to have misinterpreted 'one year break clause' as '10% rent increase after one year'
14:43.16bilarhhand her your notice
14:43.48LeedsI don't want to move, and it's a good price now - would still be a somewhat reasonable price at 10% up, to be honest
14:44.32Leedsdoesn't help at all that the discussions are bilingual
14:44.47zaargnegotiate
14:44.58Leedswe are doing
14:45.01zaargtell her what a great person you are, and how you always pay your bills on time (if true)
14:45.49Leedsthat is true
14:47.41ChoHagTell her you don't make any mess, unless she counts wires and dust as mess.
14:48.51dick_turpin"You wont find another fool like me babe, no you wont, I cant count the times you said you'd leave"
14:52.23zaargwhat some of qualifcations do you need to be a hotshot sysadm at an isp or something?
14:52.30zaargto do more networky stuff?
14:52.44ChoHagS&M helps.
14:52.47zaarg:D
14:53.27dick_turpinYou cant beat a bit of Sado Masochism
14:54.23bilarhdick_turpin: lol :D
14:54.53bilarhzaarg: my experience of hot shot sysadmins is that you need to be somehow mis-adjusted to be any good at it :)
14:55.07bilarhzaarg: so start working on that psychosis
14:55.49zaargfair enough!
14:56.14ChoHagActually just the M is necessary.
15:02.32antiphaseUsing words like "hotshot" is probably indicative that you don't have the necessary qualities
15:08.15zaargi was attempting to be cool
15:08.28zaargl33t admins then?
15:09.03ChoHagThat's s/probably//
15:09.57AndyMillarhmm, to be a "l33t" "hotshot" admin at an ISP or something you probably want to be a school leaver who's used linux once or twice before :)
15:10.22ChoHagAh I remember those days.
15:10.46ChoHagOops dangerously close to referring to the 4 Yorkshiremen again.
15:11.03AndyMillarbut then again, I can't imagine why you'd want to be a sysadmin at an isp
15:12.23AndyMillar(that said, we're hireing, and we're not an ISP :p)
15:13.55zaargnot looking for a job right now (middle of a phd). just thinking about the future.
15:13.58zaargsighs
15:14.26AndyMillar;p
15:14.41wethrinavoid the real world
15:14.47AndyMillaryeah, stay in academia
15:14.53AndyMillarthe real world's a nasty place
15:14.54wethrinalso, by the time you finish, the Real World may be a better employer
15:15.09ChoHagAnd don't try to become a sysadmin.
15:15.26wethrinNo. You end up a sysadmin. Don't try to become one
15:15.44ChoHagIf you can, you'll become one anyway, and either way you won't like it.
15:16.14zaarg:D
15:16.45dick_turpinhands AndyMillar his CV
15:20.57AndyMillardick_turpin: want to work in London?
15:21.19AndyMillarChoHag: why won't he like it?
15:21.24dick_turpin2 days a week?
15:21.44AndyMillardoubts you'd get away with that :p
15:23.08dick_turpinAndyMillar: bilarh said I can live with him :-)
15:23.32ChoHagNobody likes being a sysadmin.
15:23.38ChoHagIt's fundamentally unlikable.
15:23.48AndyMillarChoHag: I like it :)
15:23.59AndyMillar(incidentally, ChoHag need not apply :-))
15:24.07dick_turpinAhahahaha
15:24.12ChoHagMeh. I'm already there.
15:24.13ChoHagSort of.
15:24.26dick_turpinIts still funny
15:24.49AndyMillarChoHag: yeah, but where you are they'll (evidently) hire anyone ;)
15:25.34dick_turpinperks up
15:25.52AndyMillardick_turpin: also London :)
15:26.02AndyMillarso you'd get to live with bilarh still!
15:26.06dick_turpin2 days a week?
15:26.14zaargfuck it, i'll just become an angry civil servant
15:26.34AndyMillarzaarg: just go be a sysadmin for a council or something :)
15:26.43ChoHagOh don't do that.
15:26.56AndyMillarChoHag: why not, I'd have thought it'd be the perfect place for you ;)
15:27.00ChoHagGovernment employees are all weirdos. It's part of the job description.
15:27.15ChoHagYou can always spot the civil servants when you're waiting for the train.
15:28.36DiscordianUKsysadmined for a Council for 20 years
15:28.36zaargfuck it, i'll just stay in academia
15:28.41AndyMillar(they'll be the ones that start late and leave early :-))
15:28.53dick_turpinDo they have big smiles on their faces thinking about the disgusting index linked pension they are going to get?
15:29.20AndyMillardick_turpin: I'm in a scarily good mood today, I'm not sure why :)
15:29.23bilarhandymillar: please don't hire dick_turpin
15:29.29AndyMillarbilarh: why not?
15:32.04dick_turpinAndyMillar: If your in such a good mood would this be an opportune moment to discuss a pay rise? I know I've yet to actually start but I do believe in taking advantage of opportunities the second they arise.
15:32.13AndyMillar:p
15:34.19zaargsysadmin at somewhere like google would be fairly interesting and fun, no?
15:34.31antiphaseHa ha
15:34.41antiphaseIf they deigned to employ you
15:34.55zaargthey like phds i hear
15:35.09antiphaseIt's meant to be shit working at places like that. You're better off at a small company or startup if you're genuinely in it for the sysadmin
15:35.18Leedsso I'm not sure why this hasn't been widely reported... Google are holding free Android developer 'labs' all over the world in the next month or so, with the first one being today in London... and they started the day by handing out a Nexus One to everyone there
15:35.32ChoHagMeh.
15:35.46LeedsI keep being told to apply for jobs at Google, when I complain about how crappy some of the Android stuff is :)
15:35.47ChoHagI already have a phone which actually runs Linux, rather than just pretending.
15:35.51antiphaseSysadmins tend to be socially deviant or defective and drift into the job, rather than having specific high-level qualifications that would be useful for some other position
15:36.06AndyMillarantiphase: I'm not deviant :)
15:36.15LeedsI applied before, and was told they wouldn't hire me in HK because I don't speak Mandarin
15:36.26zaargright
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15:38.44dick_turpinMost of our customer base is Sysadmins who got the job "Because they built a computer once" I know of one guy who was working on the shop floor making door brackets one minute and the head of IT the next, no qualifications or anything :-/
15:38.56wethrinIn a larger company, sysadmin != rack monkey
15:39.09mtdLeeds: awww, I missed it (the developer lab)
15:39.21ArmandO_o
15:39.32Armanddick_turpin: That makes me perfectly qualified... ;)
15:40.13dick_turpinArmand: That makes 99.9% of Linux wannabe's perfectly qaulified
15:40.23Armandlol
15:40.50ChoHagAnd the other 0.1% are the ones that get the jobs?
15:40.50ArmandI make real good tea and coffee too.. ^_^
15:40.57zaargdick_turpin: :D
15:41.42dick_turpinI've just built my own NAS using FreeNAS so I'm more qualified than all of you :-P
15:41.52ArmandNice.. :)
15:42.09ArmandI have to purchase a NAS for one of my customers soon..
15:42.21dick_turpinArmand: Noooooo
15:42.36ArmandYes.. he wants to buy one.
15:42.36wethrinGet a Netapp
15:42.40dick_turpinGet an old box, stick FreeNAS on charge a fortune
15:42.43Armandlol
15:42.53zaargi find it hard to believe sysadmins at google aren't well-qualified
15:43.02zaargor all big cheese operation really
15:43.05zaarg*any
15:43.10ChoHagAaah youth.
15:43.16ArmandI'd rather just get an Icybox unit.. if we wanted to spend silly money, we'd go for a QNAP unit..
15:43.17ChoHagIt's so refreshing.
15:43.45wethrinGoogle won't have your "standard" sysadmins
15:43.50wethrinthey'll all be specialised
15:44.04zaargright
15:44.08dick_turpinwethrin: Stuff it I'll go work for Yahoo then
15:44.16wethrinYou do that
15:46.36MohanGoogle Interview style is different, It will be 6 or more than 6 rounds atleast and it depends on the position.
15:46.57MohanNot everyone can clear all the rounds unless they are skilled :)
15:47.37dick_turpinCanonical is hiring I know a couple of guys who've just been taken on
15:48.08cpufreakgoogle have a tonne of n00bs.
15:48.18cpufreakI interviewed a couple of people from there, when I was at Joost.
15:48.27cpufreaklike any large corporate company they have a lot of dead wood
15:48.31cpufreakpeople who are just along for the ride
15:48.48MohanI failed to get a desktop admin job in google cos I didnt have enough experience. but they realised it after i cleared 6 rounds.
15:48.55dick_turpinSounds perfect where do I sign up?
15:48.56Mohanwhich is really a shame.
15:49.43zaargi aspire to be dead wood
15:50.05Mohanbut the job is based on zurich though. tech head quarters of google.
15:51.21wethrinIf you can be arsed hanging on for 6 months while Google interview you, then fair enough
15:51.58jpdsdick_turpin: Yeah, we're hiring all the time. :)
15:52.03MohanIt was when I've finished my uni.
15:53.20dick_turpinjpds: Yeah however that door is slammed in my face :-D
15:53.30AndyMillarcpufreak: we don't have any sysadmins like that ;)
15:53.49MohanAt that time video confrence interview in google office was super cool.
15:58.19dick_turpinhttp://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/
16:05.35AndyMillarright
16:05.39AndyMillargoes write a bot
16:10.32bilarhandymillar: he's a weirdo, so he'd probably fit the sysadmin team, but he's got stinky breath
16:10.42bilarhrealises he's about 20 minutes too late :P
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18:13.40DiscordianUKHmm I see Rich Jones has offered a talk on virt stuff
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18:39.54gregjhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qnuutCjoAk&feature=sub
19:22.03ChoHagAaaah.
19:22.10ChoHagIt's so nice to actually sit at my computer for once.
19:24.06Armandlol
19:24.23ArmandHow else would you use it?? Hanging upside-down from the ceiling ?
19:24.54ChoHagssh from laptop in bed.
19:24.57ArmandAhh
19:25.01ChoHagOr the phone, now, as it has an ssh client.
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