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08:21.00 | wethrin | mtd: I'm off to Fosdem |
08:21.19 | ChoHag | Some bright spark decided to rename my video outputs from FOO/FOO-NUM to FOONUM and my xrandr scripts left me looking at my monitor sideways. |
08:21.28 | wethrin | ha |
08:22.13 | ChoHag | I wonder if they've also made the intel driver not suck. |
08:22.18 | ChoHag | But I doubt it. |
08:24.39 | wethrin | I'm being made to use a Linux desktop at work. It appears to be Gnome based |
08:24.40 | wethrin | It sucks |
08:24.59 | ChoHag | Forced to use gnome? |
08:25.08 | ChoHag | They might as well give you a mac. |
08:25.12 | wethrin | Mmm. It's the University's 'official' Linux thing |
08:25.15 | wethrin | I wouldn't mind a Mac |
08:26.21 | ChoHag | But you wouldn't use osx on it right? |
08:26.23 | ChoHag | Right? |
08:27.06 | DiscordianUK | You'd prefer KDE? |
08:27.11 | ChoHag | Nope. |
08:27.21 | ChoHag | Too much like Windows. |
08:27.24 | DiscordianUK | XFCE? |
08:27.28 | ChoHag | Or Windows is too much like it, I can never tell. |
08:27.41 | wethrin | I like OS X |
08:27.43 | wethrin | so nyerr |
08:27.57 | ChoHag | Not xfce. |
08:28.07 | wethrin | If made to use Linux, my desktop of choice would be Afterstep/Openstep |
08:28.14 | ChoHag | I tried that on my wife on our ancient hardware but it sucked. |
08:28.41 | DiscordianUK | likes Gnome |
08:28.41 | bilarh | xfce is the dogs |
08:28.50 | wethrin | If I wanted a piss-poor Windows clone, I'd use ReactOS |
08:29.12 | bilarh | starts a religious war with discordian and chohag |
08:29.31 | wethrin | If I want Unix, I want Unix |
08:29.42 | bilarh | air drops propaganda posters over wethrins desk |
08:30.01 | DiscordianUK | Solaris still has CDE for the win# |
08:30.12 | bilarh | god cde is the shittiest thing ever, isn't it |
08:30.17 | bilarh | i prefer 9wm to it :) |
08:30.17 | ChoHag | Solaris would. |
08:30.20 | wethrin | Mmmm, CDE. For that real 1980s feel :-) |
08:30.35 | wethrin | breaks out the VT500s |
08:30.37 | DiscordianUK | chuckles |
08:31.24 | ChoHag | http://www.morudzone.com/mm/images/1984_Ascot_VT500.jpg |
08:31.37 | wethrin | Oooh |
08:31.52 | ChoHag | Looks good to me. |
08:46.40 | zaarg | good morning |
08:46.54 | zaarg | fosdem... |
08:46.56 | zaarg | contemplates |
08:47.17 | zaarg | all the cool kids use a tiling window manager |
08:47.46 | DiscordianUK | Which are tiling window managers? |
08:48.07 | zaarg | xmonad, ion, dwm |
08:48.10 | zaarg | awesome |
08:48.13 | zaarg | there's quite a few now |
08:48.33 | DiscordianUK | Oh those didn't like them |
08:49.06 | ChoHag | I've never got the hang of those. |
08:49.14 | zaarg | take a while to get the hang of |
08:49.35 | DiscordianUK | A little bit too minimalist for me |
08:49.45 | DiscordianUK | I like to have one workspace per app |
09:25.38 | wethrin | Woo. 1GB of memory is not enough to run FC12 + Seamonkey + VMWare |
09:26.11 | DiscordianUK | laughs |
10:49.14 | mtd | wethrin: will you be there for the beer night? |
10:49.29 | wethrin | Of course |
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11:47.22 | z00dax | fosdem! |
11:48.33 | wethrin | Fosdem! |
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12:04.05 | dick_turpin | Afternoon All |
12:04.06 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Come to Fosdem! |
12:07.03 | dick_turpin | wethrin: No money :-( |
12:07.08 | wethrin | booo |
12:07.15 | wethrin | But you should be raking it in, with your sales job |
12:07.49 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Stop taking the piss you know the conditions I work under |
12:08.06 | wethrin | you need to pocket some extra money, you do |
12:09.23 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I know, I just cant seem to get the breaks :-( |
12:10.14 | wethrin | Get a new job! |
12:10.57 | dick_turpin | Tried and failed :-( |
12:11.33 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: move down south |
12:12.07 | dick_turpin | Hm,? Leave the wife and kids? Its a thought ;-) |
12:12.19 | AndyMillar | bring them with you? |
12:12.29 | AndyMillar | (though more fool you for having a wife and kids ;)) |
12:13.24 | zaarg | oh crap, fosdem is in three days |
12:13.30 | zaarg | loads up the internet |
12:13.45 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: You must be joking my misses would have a fit, this is the woman who while in Rome said "I want some proper food" then promptly made me take her to McDonalds and an Indian! |
12:14.12 | wethrin | mmm, curry |
12:17.20 | DiscordianUK | McD versus a pollo surpresa and zabligione |
12:17.31 | DiscordianUK | what a dilemma |
12:19.10 | zaarg | when in rome, do as the romans do |
12:19.14 | zaarg | not sure how that is relevant really |
12:19.32 | wethrin | The Romans would sometimes eat McDs, I assume |
12:19.35 | DiscordianUK | Ahh KFC then as usual |
12:23.55 | zaarg | is this lpi cert thnig well-respected? |
12:24.12 | DiscordianUK | fairly yeah |
12:24.30 | DiscordianUK | I'd rather have RHCE |
12:24.42 | wethrin | RHCE is more a hands-on cert |
12:24.49 | zaarg | if i have a phd in a non-techy subject, and no qualifcations but nevertheless good linux skills, can i get a job as a sysadmin? |
12:24.58 | wethrin | Yes |
12:25.39 | wethrin | this is where having an LPI cert is handy |
12:25.39 | ChoHag | Whether you should, however, is another question entirely. |
12:25.43 | wethrin | of course |
12:25.50 | dick_turpin | What about if I don't have a phd? |
12:25.53 | ChoHag | And the answer is no. |
12:26.03 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Then you've lost already. |
12:26.19 | dick_turpin | jumps off the car park roof |
12:27.23 | zaarg | i should probably just do this lpi thing then. it's quite cheap. |
12:27.40 | zaarg | ChoHag: i need to do something apparently :( |
12:27.55 | ChoHag | Yeah but sysadminning isn't it. |
12:28.36 | wethrin | Be an academic. It's far better |
12:28.45 | wethrin | coughs quietly in a corner |
12:29.11 | wethrin | (except now, when there's no money) |
12:29.14 | dick_turpin | zaarg: I own http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/?CMP=ILC-GG7423313304&ATT=lpicertnut2 |
12:29.27 | dick_turpin | and http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0789731274 |
12:29.39 | wethrin | LPI Level 1 is trivial Unixy stuff |
12:29.42 | zaarg | well there's also this cisco thing |
12:29.49 | wethrin | Cisco is expensive |
12:29.49 | dick_turpin | I was gonna take the LPI |
12:29.51 | zaarg | i don't see why they have to brand things |
12:30.04 | wethrin | Err. Because the cisco training deals with Cisco routers? |
12:30.05 | dick_turpin | Cant even afford that :-( |
12:30.19 | wethrin | dick_turpin: I paid ?20 for my LPI cert |
12:30.32 | DiscordianUK | 20 quid? |
12:30.37 | zaarg | it seems to be the standard i know about networking cert too |
12:30.47 | wethrin | Yep. 10 per exam |
12:30.54 | wethrin | might have been 15 for the second one, actually |
12:31.10 | DiscordianUK | that's not bad at all |
12:31.11 | wethrin | They were doing them cheap at one of the Linux expos |
12:31.23 | wethrin | so I decided it was worth burning ?20 for a bit of paper |
12:31.35 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Yeah £20 exam £1500 train fare |
12:31.51 | wethrin | I wasn't living that far from London at the time |
12:32.12 | dick_turpin | I also own http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/0072255390/202-3558050-5287063?v=glance&n=266239&v=glance |
12:32.27 | dick_turpin | And the RHCE one |
12:32.43 | dick_turpin | Not that any of them have done me any good |
12:32.49 | zaarg | dick_turpin: thanks |
12:33.43 | AndyMillar | keeps meaning to do a RHCE |
12:33.49 | dick_turpin | Other books I own, although the list is out of date http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/component/content/article/39-bookslinux/140-books-i-own-2006 |
12:35.14 | wethrin | Hmmm. It's 75 EUR/exam in Fosdem. Just not worth it |
12:35.16 | zaarg | i would do the academic thing, but i've come to the realisation that i am actually quite a shallow person who values money too much |
12:35.33 | wethrin | Oh. Then move up to the Frozen North |
12:35.45 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: My mate Ade Bradshaw AKA bald_hero (LugRadio presenter) has just passed RHCT RHCE then promptly got a job at RH Farnbourgh as a trainer! Now that's what you call a jammy bastard |
12:35.52 | DiscordianUK | I have a bookcase full of O'Reillys |
12:36.12 | wethrin | The academics get paid the same, but the cost of living is lower |
12:36.31 | dick_turpin | taps wethrin for a few quid |
12:36.43 | DiscordianUK | I've noticed the cost of living is lower here in WYorks |
12:37.01 | wethrin | DiscordianUK: Ahh, you're not in London any more? |
12:37.15 | DiscordianUK | Not at the moment |
12:37.37 | DiscordianUK | I shall be returning end of month |
12:38.02 | zaarg | i'll swap you the o'reillys for a bookcase of marxist texts if you like |
12:38.12 | zaarg | i came from up north, and they don't want me back |
12:38.18 | zaarg | beside it's cold up north |
12:38.25 | wethrin | It's stopped snowing now... |
12:38.31 | dick_turpin | zaarg: All property is theft |
12:38.43 | DiscordianUK | I have all of Lenin's Collected Works ta zaarg |
12:40.40 | zaarg | i suggest you set them on fire :> |
12:41.33 | DiscordianUK | They won't burn the house got flooded |
12:41.50 | DiscordianUK | I guess I should say I had a bookcase of O'Reillys |
12:42.00 | DiscordianUK | I doubt they're much use anymore |
12:44.21 | dick_turpin | Yeah its all GUI wizards now not like when I first started using Linux http://neuro.me.uk/2009/03/22/the-four-ubuntu-yorkshiremen/ |
12:45.19 | DiscordianUK | I'm proper old skool |
12:45.33 | DiscordianUK | Grew up on System V R2.1 |
12:45.52 | DiscordianUK | In the miniroot if you were fixing things didn't even get ls |
12:46.12 | DiscordianUK | used to have to use echo * to see what files there were |
12:51.36 | hali | im surprised the shell supported globbing back then |
12:53.11 | dick_turpin | It didn't DiscordianUK had to issue the command then time warp forward 5 years to read the output |
12:54.30 | DiscordianUK | Heh /bin/ed was the only editor |
12:54.54 | DiscordianUK | I remember having to fsck / and halt after the fsck |
12:55.02 | DiscordianUK | Then do it again |
12:55.18 | DiscordianUK | Until the entire superblock was clean |
12:55.28 | DiscordianUK | as it wouldn't fit in RAM |
12:56.08 | DiscordianUK | SysV didn;t get filesystem hardening till R3 |
14:11.48 | mtd | you guys had filesystems when you started using computers? |
14:11.52 | mtd | (here we go :)) |
14:11.56 | wethrin | you had an editor!? Luxury! We had to make do with twiddling bits |
14:12.05 | DiscordianUK | Errr sure |
14:12.39 | DiscordianUK | i had a PDP-8/L |
14:12.56 | dick_turpin | Bits? bits? We had a bit of wire and some Valves |
14:13.19 | wethrin | valves!? You had valves!? |
14:14.04 | dick_turpin | Oh and Solid State Drives which apparently back then was crap but now is excellent! Go figure? |
14:15.42 | DiscordianUK | Drums |
14:19.30 | hali | z00dax: xfsdump in extras has mockbuild as file owner |
14:20.34 | dick_turpin | Oh how we laughed as CYB just asked me if I had a hair dryer |
14:24.12 | bilarh | dick_turpin: what's his opinion on the RHCE? |
14:24.45 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Difficulty? |
14:24.56 | bilarh | yeah and just in general |
14:25.56 | bilarh | i.e. is it worth doing for anything else but a holiday from the office? :) |
14:27.23 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I can find out his score if you like, I don't think he had too much trouble but then he has been an RH fanboy since I've known him about 10+ years now. |
14:27.36 | bilarh | ok |
14:27.48 | bilarh | i'm hopefully doing my fasttrack course in march |
14:27.58 | dick_turpin | bilarh: He was working as a Sysadmin for ages then just handed his notice in, did the exams then started applying for jobs |
14:28.16 | Mohan | troubleshooting questions are slightly confusing in RHCE, if you can clear it the rest of the stuff is straigh forward. |
14:28.33 | dick_turpin | In total I think he was out of work for a month and half |
14:29.00 | dick_turpin | But he was cramming/testing during that time |
14:29.17 | bilarh | ok |
14:29.30 | bilarh | is it true you get a computer and then told to "fix it"? :) |
14:30.02 | Mohan | And the sda part is if you dont get the troubleshooting right, even if you score 100% your paper is invalid. |
14:30.10 | Mohan | s /sda /sad/ |
14:30.22 | dick_turpin | bilarh: I heard that, again I'll check |
14:30.32 | Mohan | yeah its a hands on exam. |
14:30.34 | zaarg | do they have twenty-four hour pubs/clubs/cafes/train stations in belgium? |
14:30.37 | zaarg | has a cunning plan |
14:30.54 | z00dax | hali: ah interesting, will pass that onto Ralph |
14:31.09 | dick_turpin | zaarg: You gonna work the punters? Euew |
14:31.44 | bilarh | dick_turpin: is it work if he enjoys it? |
14:32.02 | bilarh | mohan: coolness |
14:32.27 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Enjoy it? He had a wet one when they offered him a job its his dream employer |
14:35.28 | bilarh | hehe :) |
14:35.59 | bilarh | you missed the attack, then :P |
14:36.07 | bilarh | or was it me who missed teh follow up? :D |
14:38.20 | zaarg | hmm! |
14:38.48 | bilarh | :D |
14:41.40 | Leeds | ARGH, unexpected landlady negotiation |
14:42.42 | bilarh | why what's up? |
14:42.48 | Leeds | she seems to have misinterpreted 'one year break clause' as '10% rent increase after one year' |
14:43.16 | bilarh | hand her your notice |
14:43.48 | Leeds | I don't want to move, and it's a good price now - would still be a somewhat reasonable price at 10% up, to be honest |
14:44.32 | Leeds | doesn't help at all that the discussions are bilingual |
14:44.47 | zaarg | negotiate |
14:44.58 | Leeds | we are doing |
14:45.01 | zaarg | tell her what a great person you are, and how you always pay your bills on time (if true) |
14:45.49 | Leeds | that is true |
14:47.41 | ChoHag | Tell her you don't make any mess, unless she counts wires and dust as mess. |
14:48.51 | dick_turpin | "You wont find another fool like me babe, no you wont, I cant count the times you said you'd leave" |
14:52.23 | zaarg | what some of qualifcations do you need to be a hotshot sysadm at an isp or something? |
14:52.30 | zaarg | to do more networky stuff? |
14:52.44 | ChoHag | S&M helps. |
14:52.47 | zaarg | :D |
14:53.27 | dick_turpin | You cant beat a bit of Sado Masochism |
14:54.23 | bilarh | dick_turpin: lol :D |
14:54.53 | bilarh | zaarg: my experience of hot shot sysadmins is that you need to be somehow mis-adjusted to be any good at it :) |
14:55.07 | bilarh | zaarg: so start working on that psychosis |
14:55.49 | zaarg | fair enough! |
14:56.14 | ChoHag | Actually just the M is necessary. |
15:02.32 | antiphase | Using words like "hotshot" is probably indicative that you don't have the necessary qualities |
15:08.15 | zaarg | i was attempting to be cool |
15:08.28 | zaarg | l33t admins then? |
15:09.03 | ChoHag | That's s/probably// |
15:09.57 | AndyMillar | hmm, to be a "l33t" "hotshot" admin at an ISP or something you probably want to be a school leaver who's used linux once or twice before :) |
15:10.22 | ChoHag | Ah I remember those days. |
15:10.46 | ChoHag | Oops dangerously close to referring to the 4 Yorkshiremen again. |
15:11.03 | AndyMillar | but then again, I can't imagine why you'd want to be a sysadmin at an isp |
15:12.23 | AndyMillar | (that said, we're hireing, and we're not an ISP :p) |
15:13.55 | zaarg | not looking for a job right now (middle of a phd). just thinking about the future. |
15:13.58 | zaarg | sighs |
15:14.26 | AndyMillar | ;p |
15:14.41 | wethrin | avoid the real world |
15:14.47 | AndyMillar | yeah, stay in academia |
15:14.53 | AndyMillar | the real world's a nasty place |
15:14.54 | wethrin | also, by the time you finish, the Real World may be a better employer |
15:15.09 | ChoHag | And don't try to become a sysadmin. |
15:15.26 | wethrin | No. You end up a sysadmin. Don't try to become one |
15:15.44 | ChoHag | If you can, you'll become one anyway, and either way you won't like it. |
15:16.14 | zaarg | :D |
15:16.45 | dick_turpin | hands AndyMillar his CV |
15:20.57 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: want to work in London? |
15:21.19 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: why won't he like it? |
15:21.24 | dick_turpin | 2 days a week? |
15:21.44 | AndyMillar | doubts you'd get away with that :p |
15:23.08 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: bilarh said I can live with him :-) |
15:23.32 | ChoHag | Nobody likes being a sysadmin. |
15:23.38 | ChoHag | It's fundamentally unlikable. |
15:23.48 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: I like it :) |
15:23.59 | AndyMillar | (incidentally, ChoHag need not apply :-)) |
15:24.07 | dick_turpin | Ahahahaha |
15:24.12 | ChoHag | Meh. I'm already there. |
15:24.13 | ChoHag | Sort of. |
15:24.26 | dick_turpin | Its still funny |
15:24.49 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: yeah, but where you are they'll (evidently) hire anyone ;) |
15:25.34 | dick_turpin | perks up |
15:25.52 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: also London :) |
15:26.02 | AndyMillar | so you'd get to live with bilarh still! |
15:26.06 | dick_turpin | 2 days a week? |
15:26.14 | zaarg | fuck it, i'll just become an angry civil servant |
15:26.34 | AndyMillar | zaarg: just go be a sysadmin for a council or something :) |
15:26.43 | ChoHag | Oh don't do that. |
15:26.56 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: why not, I'd have thought it'd be the perfect place for you ;) |
15:27.00 | ChoHag | Government employees are all weirdos. It's part of the job description. |
15:27.15 | ChoHag | You can always spot the civil servants when you're waiting for the train. |
15:28.36 | DiscordianUK | sysadmined for a Council for 20 years |
15:28.36 | zaarg | fuck it, i'll just stay in academia |
15:28.41 | AndyMillar | (they'll be the ones that start late and leave early :-)) |
15:28.53 | dick_turpin | Do they have big smiles on their faces thinking about the disgusting index linked pension they are going to get? |
15:29.20 | AndyMillar | dick_turpin: I'm in a scarily good mood today, I'm not sure why :) |
15:29.23 | bilarh | andymillar: please don't hire dick_turpin |
15:29.29 | AndyMillar | bilarh: why not? |
15:32.04 | dick_turpin | AndyMillar: If your in such a good mood would this be an opportune moment to discuss a pay rise? I know I've yet to actually start but I do believe in taking advantage of opportunities the second they arise. |
15:32.13 | AndyMillar | :p |
15:34.19 | zaarg | sysadmin at somewhere like google would be fairly interesting and fun, no? |
15:34.31 | antiphase | Ha ha |
15:34.41 | antiphase | If they deigned to employ you |
15:34.55 | zaarg | they like phds i hear |
15:35.09 | antiphase | It's meant to be shit working at places like that. You're better off at a small company or startup if you're genuinely in it for the sysadmin |
15:35.18 | Leeds | so I'm not sure why this hasn't been widely reported... Google are holding free Android developer 'labs' all over the world in the next month or so, with the first one being today in London... and they started the day by handing out a Nexus One to everyone there |
15:35.32 | ChoHag | Meh. |
15:35.46 | Leeds | I keep being told to apply for jobs at Google, when I complain about how crappy some of the Android stuff is :) |
15:35.47 | ChoHag | I already have a phone which actually runs Linux, rather than just pretending. |
15:35.51 | antiphase | Sysadmins tend to be socially deviant or defective and drift into the job, rather than having specific high-level qualifications that would be useful for some other position |
15:36.06 | AndyMillar | antiphase: I'm not deviant :) |
15:36.15 | Leeds | I applied before, and was told they wouldn't hire me in HK because I don't speak Mandarin |
15:36.26 | zaarg | right |
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15:38.44 | dick_turpin | Most of our customer base is Sysadmins who got the job "Because they built a computer once" I know of one guy who was working on the shop floor making door brackets one minute and the head of IT the next, no qualifications or anything :-/ |
15:38.56 | wethrin | In a larger company, sysadmin != rack monkey |
15:39.09 | mtd | Leeds: awww, I missed it (the developer lab) |
15:39.21 | Armand | O_o |
15:39.32 | Armand | dick_turpin: That makes me perfectly qualified... ;) |
15:40.13 | dick_turpin | Armand: That makes 99.9% of Linux wannabe's perfectly qaulified |
15:40.23 | Armand | lol |
15:40.50 | ChoHag | And the other 0.1% are the ones that get the jobs? |
15:40.50 | Armand | I make real good tea and coffee too.. ^_^ |
15:40.57 | zaarg | dick_turpin: :D |
15:41.42 | dick_turpin | I've just built my own NAS using FreeNAS so I'm more qualified than all of you :-P |
15:41.52 | Armand | Nice.. :) |
15:42.09 | Armand | I have to purchase a NAS for one of my customers soon.. |
15:42.21 | dick_turpin | Armand: Noooooo |
15:42.36 | Armand | Yes.. he wants to buy one. |
15:42.36 | wethrin | Get a Netapp |
15:42.40 | dick_turpin | Get an old box, stick FreeNAS on charge a fortune |
15:42.43 | Armand | lol |
15:42.53 | zaarg | i find it hard to believe sysadmins at google aren't well-qualified |
15:43.02 | zaarg | or all big cheese operation really |
15:43.05 | zaarg | *any |
15:43.10 | ChoHag | Aaah youth. |
15:43.16 | Armand | I'd rather just get an Icybox unit.. if we wanted to spend silly money, we'd go for a QNAP unit.. |
15:43.17 | ChoHag | It's so refreshing. |
15:43.45 | wethrin | Google won't have your "standard" sysadmins |
15:43.50 | wethrin | they'll all be specialised |
15:44.04 | zaarg | right |
15:44.08 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Stuff it I'll go work for Yahoo then |
15:44.16 | wethrin | You do that |
15:46.36 | Mohan | Google Interview style is different, It will be 6 or more than 6 rounds atleast and it depends on the position. |
15:46.57 | Mohan | Not everyone can clear all the rounds unless they are skilled :) |
15:47.37 | dick_turpin | Canonical is hiring I know a couple of guys who've just been taken on |
15:48.08 | cpufreak | google have a tonne of n00bs. |
15:48.18 | cpufreak | I interviewed a couple of people from there, when I was at Joost. |
15:48.27 | cpufreak | like any large corporate company they have a lot of dead wood |
15:48.31 | cpufreak | people who are just along for the ride |
15:48.48 | Mohan | I failed to get a desktop admin job in google cos I didnt have enough experience. but they realised it after i cleared 6 rounds. |
15:48.55 | dick_turpin | Sounds perfect where do I sign up? |
15:48.56 | Mohan | which is really a shame. |
15:49.43 | zaarg | i aspire to be dead wood |
15:50.05 | Mohan | but the job is based on zurich though. tech head quarters of google. |
15:51.21 | wethrin | If you can be arsed hanging on for 6 months while Google interview you, then fair enough |
15:51.58 | jpds | dick_turpin: Yeah, we're hiring all the time. :) |
15:52.03 | Mohan | It was when I've finished my uni. |
15:53.20 | dick_turpin | jpds: Yeah however that door is slammed in my face :-D |
15:53.30 | AndyMillar | cpufreak: we don't have any sysadmins like that ;) |
15:53.49 | Mohan | At that time video confrence interview in google office was super cool. |
15:58.19 | dick_turpin | http://webapps.ubuntu.com/employment/ |
16:05.35 | AndyMillar | right |
16:05.39 | AndyMillar | goes write a bot |
16:10.32 | bilarh | andymillar: he's a weirdo, so he'd probably fit the sysadmin team, but he's got stinky breath |
16:10.42 | bilarh | realises he's about 20 minutes too late :P |
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18:13.40 | DiscordianUK | Hmm I see Rich Jones has offered a talk on virt stuff |
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18:39.54 | gregj | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qnuutCjoAk&feature=sub |
19:22.03 | ChoHag | Aaaah. |
19:22.10 | ChoHag | It's so nice to actually sit at my computer for once. |
19:24.06 | Armand | lol |
19:24.23 | Armand | How else would you use it?? Hanging upside-down from the ceiling ? |
19:24.54 | ChoHag | ssh from laptop in bed. |
19:24.57 | Armand | Ahh |
19:25.01 | ChoHag | Or the phone, now, as it has an ssh client. |
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