IRC log for #gllug on 20100203

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02:36.51ArmandAnyone about.. ?
02:41.07DiscordianUKvaguely
02:42.03DiscordianUKwhat's the problem
02:42.54ArmandWhat's your perspective on the reference "GNU/Linux" as opposed to just "Linux" ?
02:43.18DiscordianUKPersonally I hate GNU/Linux
02:43.29ArmandWhy ?
02:44.25DiscordianUKlet me ask a question : do you see GNU/hurd anywhere
02:44.41ArmandI see the word "hurd" on one of my CDs...
02:44.50ArmandSo, no.
02:44.56DiscordianUKLinux was a lot more BSD when it began
02:45.26ArmandOk, after googling for "hurd" I see reference to GNU Hurd.
02:45.34DiscordianUKit has embraced the GNU culture
02:45.55DiscordianUKI'd support Linux/GNU
02:46.10ArmandSee, I think it's the whole "GNU" bit that I don't understand.
02:46.30DiscordianUKas long as we call OSX , OSX/Gnu
02:47.29ArmandIs it a matter of some kind of software "politics" ?? Does "GNU" put across some kind of statement about your beliefs.. because it appears some people are REAL arsey about it.
02:47.44DiscordianUKSome are yes
02:48.24ArmandPut it this way... I think today is the first time in YEARS that I've really wanted to knifebrick someone on the internet. >_<
02:48.39DiscordianUKThe debian people care a lot about GNU
02:48.48ArmandClearly..
02:49.47DiscordianUKI'm pragmatic I care about stuff I can use
02:49.49ArmandJust that.. I got some muppets in ##linux hounding me because I stated that "GNU/Linux IS just a kernel.. a GNU/Linux OS is a grouping of software based around the kernel"
02:50.32DiscordianUKI wandered into ##linux a few mins today
02:51.02DiscordianUKI'm so glad I just volunteer on #fedora and #centos
02:51.07Armand:)
02:51.32ArmandI think I might drop ##linux.. the overall IQ is higher in #fedora. ¬_¬
02:51.44DiscordianUKWe try
02:52.01ArmandToo many trolls and dickheads in ##linux, seriously.
02:52.22DiscordianUKI also went into #bash
02:52.32DiscordianUKThat was funny
02:52.37ArmandNever been there..
02:52.45ArmandDo enlighten me. :P
02:53.22DiscordianUKI dunno what it is but full of debianites
02:53.35Armandlol
02:54.44ArmandBut yes.. end result of said hounding.. I put 2 people on ignore.
02:55.00DiscordianUKwell ignore is good
02:55.18ArmandWhich is odd for me, as I've been quite tolerant of the general stupidity on IRC the last year or so.
02:56.00DiscordianUKwell I have no one on ignore across 12 channels and 4 irc networks
02:56.43ArmandOh christ.. I can't be arsed to count mine.
02:56.53Armand"A lot" should cover it. :P
02:57.38DiscordianUKit's as many as I can get on one line in xchat
02:58.13ArmandI don't think mine is saved to a .txt file or anything. :P
02:58.18ArmandI could look..
02:58.47DiscordianUKDon't bother I should sleep
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02:59.16ArmandYes.. tis late.
02:59.18ArmandLeeds!
02:59.48Leedsno, 'tix 11am!
02:59.52Leedstis even
03:00.14Armand3am, here anyways.
03:03.17ArmandDiscordianUK: 28 ignored.
03:03.35DiscordianUK28 now?
03:04.05ArmandYup.. 2 today.
03:10.16Armandtime for bed...
03:10.19Armandgnite guys
03:14.34Leedsnight
03:14.55Armand:)
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08:18.24ChoHagWhy must sportsmen be covered in adverts?
08:28.13zaarggood morning
08:28.31zaargi don't know. why must sportsmen be covered in adverts?
08:40.42cpufreakto make money?
08:54.20Mohanmorning
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09:49.50jason_ukfsnmorning all
09:50.15wethrinhi jason_ukfsn
09:50.17wethrincoming to Fosdem?
09:50.48jason_ukfsnAlas no. I have too much work on and family commitments tying me down to be able to. :(
09:51.13wethrinboo :(
09:53.59jason_ukfsnI know but that's life. Maybe next year things will be better - my kids will be older and more independent and, hopefully, the new systems at UKFSN will result in less need for me to $do_something
09:54.28wethrinlaziness++
09:54.36Leedsit hasn't fallen over under the weight of millions of users yet then?
09:54.46jason_ukfsn(getting someone else to write the laziness)++
09:55.50jason_ukfsnLeeds, I wish! It's not so much about falling over (which hasn't been an issue in the past almost 7 years) but rather about better integration and more automation.
09:56.08jason_ukfsnThe more direct control I can give customers the better.
09:56.51jason_ukfsnSo how's HK then Leeds?
09:57.04Leedswarm :)
09:57.22Leedswe're off to http://www.rtoddking.com/chinawin2009_hb_if.htm on Saturday
09:58.23jason_ukfsnThat looks amazing!
09:58.33Leedsdoesn't it just?
09:58.37Leedsfucking cold though
09:59.05jason_ukfsncold == good ice skating conditions
09:59.25LeedsI can just about stay up on skates, the gf is scared of hurting herself
09:59.41Leedswill try to get her on the sort of skate-bikes they have
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10:01.33jason_ukfsnMy kids have reached the level of taking part in local ice skating competitions. My son has the talent to go a lot further if he'd just remember the sequences but that's probably not going to happen. Still he enjoys it a lot.
10:03.52Leedsmy former flatmate took lessons here for a while - I went skating with her a couple of times...
10:04.04Leedsall the rinks here are in malls, which is slightly odd from our point of view
10:04.49jason_ukfsnThey've started doing that here now. Hatfield Galleria now has a rink during winter months. It's crap and expensive but apparently quite popular.
10:06.05Leedsnah, these are serious rinks - a couple of them host a hockey league, they have on-site schools, etc.
10:45.58z00daxaaagggh
10:46.20z00daxwhats that girls' name ( or company name ) from Canterbury, who also runs a VPS hosting company ?
10:46.25z00daxibot: whois Kitty
10:46.26ibotOMGKITTYCATMEWMEWMEWMEW
10:46.35z00daxibot: thanks
10:46.35ibotz00dax: no problem
10:46.40wethrinKitty
10:46.42wethrincontextshift.co.uk
10:46.50z00daxah thats it! thanks wethrin
10:46.54wethrinyw
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11:42.38dick_turpinAfternoon All
11:42.41wethrin'ello
11:43.00dick_turpin:-)
11:47.34jpdsG'morning.
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11:57.25boudiccasafternoon already? where has the day gone?
12:00.16DiscordianUKI dunno
12:05.38dick_turpinboudiccas: You slept most of it away you drunken bum
12:15.06boudiccasdrunk! me? never? not this year anyway at least!
12:41.52jason_ukfsnThe most stupid kid on the internet - http://blogs.msdn.com/larryosterman/archive/2010/01/29/nextgenhacker101-owes-me-a-new-monitor.aspx
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13:03.38dick_turpinI cant listen :-( Is it funny?
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13:37.18Azundrisdick_turpin: In the manner of car crashes.
13:37.33dick_turpin?
13:38.58AzundrisWell, so there's this guy "explaining" traceroute.
13:39.21AzundrisOr rather, "tracer T", a close relative of Mr T's, I'm sure, since he's on Win.
13:39.54AzundrisExcept he thinks that it shows the people who at the time of invocation are looking at the target IP.
13:39.57AzundrisRead that again.
13:40.01AzundrisAND,
13:40.20Azundristo make matters worse, he picks google.com as his example.
13:40.28DiscordianUKhaha
13:40.48AzundrisAnd it doesn't strike him as the least bit funny that only ten people are using google at that point.
13:43.44dick_turpinBwahahaha
13:46.08Azundris"Hallo Tatiana Azundris, your Nexus 1 has shipped."
13:46.12AzundrisWell then.
13:48.19dick_turpinhttp://www.itproportal.com/portal/news/article/2010/2/3/t-mobile-uk-clearing-stock-nexus-one-massive-android-sale/
13:48.33dick_turpinOoh at £10 a month I could afford one :-)
13:57.29ArmandAt £10pm *I* could afford one.. ! O_O
13:58.25Azundris:-D
13:58.40AzundrisPfffft, I bought a phone other people can afford?  How drab! ;)
13:58.59ArmandVickie pays £51pm for her sodding iPhone. >_<
14:01.34dick_turpinKin ell! Armand can I marry you? You must be loaded
14:02.21Armandlol
14:02.25ArmandNo..
14:02.30Armand*SHE* pays it.. ;)
14:03.08dick_turpinCan I marry your wife then?
14:03.20boudiccaswasnt he a labour politician? from wales? and married to glenys kinell too, but i cant remember his name
14:03.25ArmandI don't have a wife.. :P
14:03.37boudiccasyet
14:03.41boudiccas:)
14:03.52dick_turpinWho the bloody hell is Vickie then?
14:04.02ArmandMy missus.. (fiancée
14:04.04Armand+)
14:04.13ArmandWe're engaged..
14:04.55dick_turpinArmand: Right can I marry your 'Significant other' then? Sheesh this better be worth it, I'm not getting any younger you know
14:04.56boudiccasmost blokes with fiancees are engaged :)
14:05.02Armandlol
14:05.23boudiccasdick_turpin, you're aging by the minute
14:05.24Armanddick_turpin: She's not exactly "loaded" She averages around £1100 a month.. and we struggle.
14:06.16dick_turpinboudiccas: I know, its all that misspent youth :-(
14:07.19dick_turpinArmand: Don't you mean £1049.00 after paying for the phone?
14:07.33ArmandSomething like that..
14:09.06dick_turpinconsiders the viability for a few minutes and decides it still might be worth it
14:10.20boudiccasdick_turpin, and the carved notches in your bedside headboard! see, we know these things :)
14:11.32dick_turpinboudiccas: You'll get me a bad name
14:12.23boudiccasdick_turpin, friad you've already got one, you shouldnt go out on dark nights and hold up the stagecoach
14:15.47dick_turpinGot the snow down there yet? We had a bit about an hour ago
14:21.07boudiccasdick_turpin, no snow here, and no rain either, just an overcast day with no sunshine :(
14:22.37dick_turpinsticks his head out the window and starts blowing in a southerly direction
14:25.09boudiccaslol
14:36.23MohanThats ok if I'm building both the servers from scratch.
14:36.33Mohanoops wrong window :(
14:44.41dick_turpingets a newspaper and fan's in a southerly direction
14:46.56boudiccasstill no change dick_turpin i'd give up if i were you :)
14:48.19dick_turpinleans further out the window with an electric fan
15:08.03boudiccasLOL
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15:27.57bilarhgrr, how is it possible that every house i want to see sells right under my nose before I even have a chance to view it?
15:28.13bilarhwhere do people get the f*in money to buy houses
15:29.35Mohanbilarh: Print it :)
15:29.45bilarhyes, that's exactly it
15:29.56bilarhthat idiot gordon clown again
15:37.32dick_turpinOption 1: Stop dithering and make an offer
15:37.43bilarhi haven't even had a chance to view the house
15:37.46dick_turpinOption 2: Make a sensible offer
15:37.46bilarhtwice
15:38.05bilarhIs there a guy fawkes option?
15:38.13dick_turpinViewings for wimps
15:38.17bilarhhehe
15:38.20dick_turpinBuy buy buy
15:39.02dick_turpinPlus what kind of estate agents you got down there? This is 2010, haven't you heard of Virtual viewing?
15:39.19bilarhi did a drive-by yesterday evening
15:39.36bilarhthat should be enough to base a decision of a buy / no buy of a 200k "asset", right
15:39.50boudiccasbilarh, yes, the neighbourhood watch are aware of it :)
15:39.59dick_turpinDrive-by shootings don't count
15:40.17bilarhanyway, back into the server room to sulk
15:40.45dick_turpinGood then we can snap up 5 more homes while you are in there
15:54.58dick_turpinAnyone in or near London and could do with £40 http://bit.ly/9E4Gur
15:57.41boudiccasdick_turpin, looks interesting, but really icba
16:00.16dick_turpinboudiccas: Don't shoot the messenger :-)
16:00.44boudiccasi wasnt dick_turpin i was just passing comment on it and that icba
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18:24.43rhoweAnyone fancy going to the Sickipedia comedy night in shoreditch tonight?
18:25.58AzundrisWho the what now?
18:26.41rhowehttp://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=261794244547&index=1
18:28.09AzundrisHa! :)
18:28.23rhowehttp://sickipedia.org/
18:28.28rhowethey've done 2 comedy nights so far
18:28.36rhowethis is the 3rd and I think it'll be quite good
18:39.26Azundris:-D
18:43.50ArmandI've heard enough of sickipedia to KNOW I don't want to go..
18:47.18wethrinDammit. I'd come, but I'm not in London
18:47.22wethrinrhowe: Tomorrow - London.pm!
18:50.56rhowehah
18:51.05rhowewell I'm having trouble getting a posse together
18:51.10rhoweso I think I might just head home
18:52.44wethrinboo
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