IRC log for #gllug on 20100211

01:42.59z00daxwooooooooooooooooo, power7
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08:31.37ChoHag"... tried by the medical community whose roots and income are linked with an unshakable, almost religious belief in vaccination and the germ theory"
08:32.16ChoHagGerm theory. Never been proven...
08:33.36wethrinoh dear
08:33.39wethrinWho's being idiotic?
08:34.04ChoHagThe 'Australian Vaccination Network' in its death throes.
08:34.05wethrin(damn these fact things!)
08:34.08wethrinuhhh
08:34.23ChoHagInterestingly named for an organisation against vaccination.
08:34.54wethrinWhy would you not want to be vaccinated?
08:34.58wethrinNo, wait
08:35.00wethrinPeople are idiots.
08:35.56ChoHagBecause you like to increase the risk to everyone of crippling, horrific diseases which would otherwise have been eradicated in the modern/western world?
08:36.47ChoHagOr in other words, a psychopath.
08:38.06ChoHag"... have been taught to fear the diseases we currently vaccinate against"
08:38.58wethrinTB is fluffy!
08:39.44wethrinright. Worktime
08:39.48ChoHagI'm a big fan of polio myself.
08:39.51ChoHagWho needs legs anyway?
08:49.28MohanMorning
09:29.15wethrinChoHag: It certainly didn't stop Donald Swann
09:56.51halimorning
09:58.34bilarhwell, there's some side effects to vaccination as well
09:58.43bilarhe.g. the swine flu jab gives you a massively sore arm for a week
09:58.53haliit's well worth it though
09:59.02halithe government recommends it so must be good
09:59.04bilarhi'd rather take my chances without it, if it's all the same to you  :P
09:59.21bilarhhave you read the small print?
09:59.29halicolleteral damage
09:59.42haliwin some loose some, but it is for the greater good of the population
10:00.23halibetter that a few people have sore arms and possibly die from side effects than 70% of the population gets wiped out by the virus
10:01.32bilarhdepends on what 70% of population dies
10:01.49bilarhafter the black death, there was lots of positive change for the working population
10:04.17wethrinbilarh: You can always use the other arm
10:05.22bilarhor i could use both
10:05.26bilarhand not catch swine flu
10:05.29bilarh*or*
10:05.34bilarhget two weeks off work :D
10:05.42bilarh(whilst puking my guts out)
10:21.49wethrinmmmm, flu
10:28.11ChoHag70% of the population dying wouldn't be all bad.
10:28.28ChoHagLondon's pretty overcrowded.
10:29.56cpufreakdepends on which 70%
10:35.56ChoHagThe 70% who were stupid enough not to vaccinate?
10:36.00ChoHaghttp://thenextweb.com/shareables/files/2009/11/3.jpg
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10:57.22morsingwethrin: Where's bilar?
10:57.22zaarggood morning all
10:57.25morsingwethrin: Where's bilarh?
10:57.27morsingzaarg!
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11:27.10morsingboudiccas!
11:35.16morsingj0nr: Where's boudiccas?
11:38.53ChoHagI find loud music helps me relax while I clean as the music distracts me so much that I stop cleaning. Which is relaxing.
11:39.23wethrinany particular type of loud music?
11:42.22ChoHagAny that works.
11:46.49DiscordianUKlistens to some Michael Nyman
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12:18.50morsingdick_turpin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm5RkeuKC1Q&feature=related
12:19.20dick_turpinAfternoon all
12:23.57dick_turpinmorsing: WhyTF are you sending me links to drag racing?
12:27.34morsingdick_turpin: To brighten up your day
12:31.31dick_turpinGetting another job would brighten my day. Having a quickie with kylie Minogue would brighten my day. Hell getting to go home early would brighten my day! But that steaming pile of horse dung only you could come up with
12:37.19wethrinsends dick_turpin to http://tinyurl.com/12345678900987654321
12:40.13dick_turpinI don't use sound at work so unless they are 'visual' video's are wasted on me. P.S. wethrin go and stand in line with that cretin morsing
12:40.40wethrinheadphones?
12:42.16dick_turpinwethrin: Here? Are you serious? Please make sensible suggestions
12:42.39dick_turpinwethrin: i'D HAVE BETTER CHANCE OF LIP READING
12:43.09bilarhdick_turpin: mmm, lip reading :D
12:43.10dick_turpinBugger, caps lock
12:43.12bilarhperks up
12:43.25wethrinI HAVE HEADPHONE HERE IF I NEED THEM
12:43.37dick_turpinwethrin: Bwahahaha (Caps)
12:57.34morsingdick_turpin: Idiot
12:58.56wethrinplay nicely!
12:59.14dick_turpinmorsing: 20 million sperm and you was the successful one! There's no justice
12:59.28morsingwethrin: See above (And stop being stupid again)
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12:59.45*** kick/#gllug [dick_turpin!morsing@emil.morsing.cc] by morsing (dick_turpin)
12:59.51ArmandHahahaha
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13:00.16ArmandThat was somewhat unfair, but nm.
13:00.33morsingArmand: No, it wasn't. This is soppused to be a friendly channel
13:00.36wethrinI'm not being stupid
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13:00.57morsingIt's not good advertising for a club trying to attract people, is it?
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13:01.18morsingwethrin: And you're being stupid it you're saying I'm not being nice after his abuse
13:01.23morsingdick_turpin: Idiot
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13:01.34dick_turpinI rest my case
13:02.28ChoHagYay morsing's back.
13:12.22boudiccasand front
13:14.25dick_turpinboudiccas: Hello Honey bun
13:15.31boudiccasdick_turpin, hiyas, been having fun by the look of things?
13:16.28boudiccasi'd better watch my P's and Q's then
13:18.14dick_turpinboudiccas: Meh in some places it would be an abuse of power
13:18.39boudiccasi wonder what 'meh' means?
13:18.53dick_turpinboudiccas: So do I?
13:22.27boudiccassnuff
13:23.51wethrinmeh. It's a term of ambivalence
13:25.21dick_turpinwethrin: I thought it meant "Search me" or portrayed a sort of vacant look on the face a bit like someone I know :-)
13:27.28wethrinhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=meh
13:28.07dick_turpinwethrin: I know what it means, I'm being an idiot :-)
13:28.13wethrinoh. Carry on!
13:28.21dick_turpinwethrin: Thank
13:28.45dick_turpinwethrin: Thoughts of "Pissing on my parade" cross my mind
13:33.06boudiccashttp://www.pornfail.com/images/pf-2.gif ( funny but maybe not safe for work)
13:33.24dick_turpinlooks anyway
13:33.33boudiccasits rude!
13:33.57dick_turpinWhen does the dog join in?
13:34.09boudiccasdunno, they dont show that bit
13:34.20dick_turpinAnd what are you doing looking at that sort of thing anyway?
13:34.36boudiccasi just wanted to share it with people :)
13:35.09DiscordianUKalready seen it
13:35.25boudiccasyes, it was in #centos-social
13:36.07dick_turpinWow! since when did CentOS go Hard Core?
13:36.37boudiccasit was in the social channel so anything goes :)
13:37.04dick_turpinWill it be on the next release DVD?
13:37.32boudiccasextremely doubtful mainly beacuse we dont know what the dog does next
13:38.12dick_turpinAh see that's the clincher
13:39.50dick_turpinBwahahaha have you been to the main site? I'm still wetting myself now! Boy she gives that bloke a kicking
14:50.38Mohanhttp://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/09/spider-robot-learns-walk/
14:51.56bilarhhates on php autoconversion of http get variables to normal globals
14:52.10bilarhhow could it ever have been a good idea to allow something like that?
14:55.43wethrinyou can probably disable it
15:06.55bilarhyes, that's the problem :D
15:07.00bilarhwe have some old crappy app that uses it
15:07.06bilarhand it's disabled by default nowadays (sensibly)
15:07.12bilarhergo, broken apps, angry users
15:08.29MohanAlso leaves huge error logs
15:08.39bilarhthat too
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15:38.01rhowewoo
15:38.02rhowenow has a 3 machine Xen cluster
15:38.17rhowe(yeah yeah, I know Xen is yesterday's news and kvm's where it's at)
15:38.36AndyMillarrhowe: i wish you the best of luck
15:38.40AndyMillarusing redhat cluster?
15:39.04rhoweyeah
15:39.07rhoweI don't really trust it
15:39.51AndyMillarhas one of those :)
15:40.01rhoweheh
15:40.04rhoweUsing Debian lenny?
15:40.10AndyMillarCentos 5.3
15:40.34rhoweAh right, this is with Debian, but the same setup as you - MSA 1500cs
15:40.50rhowedual path fibre
15:40.59AndyMillar1 or 2 switches? ;)
15:41.02rhowe2
15:41.08AndyMillargood man
15:41.25rhoweOne thing I'm not yet using is rgmanager to handle the domUs
15:41.33AndyMillarthat works too :)
15:41.41rhoweYeah, I'm sure it does - and I need to get it set up
15:41.42AndyMillarthat bit works nicely, I've rerouted all the fibre with the cluster live
15:41.53AndyMillarrandomly unplugging it
15:42.07rhoweRunning 15 domUs at the moment
15:42.13rhoweanother 2 to add to the cluster
15:42.18rhoweThen I can bring another dom0 in :D
15:42.23AndyMillarusing lacp and 2 separate switches as well means you can literally fail *anything*
15:42.41rhoweYeah, my network switches are the weakest link at the moment
15:42.46rhoweThey're cheap and not very good
15:42.49AndyMillar:(
15:43.07rhowestill, I haven't really spent any money this year (year starts in Oct)
15:43.16AndyMillarthat's good :)
15:43.19AndyMillarsetting the cluster up was a *pain* iirc
15:43.26rhoweI want to move some Windows boxes into Xen too
15:43.28AndyMillarbut it's been pretty damn stable since it's been running
15:43.45rhoweYeah. Some docs would have been nice :)
15:43.52AndyMillarquite :p
15:44.18rhoweFencing gives me the willies
15:44.39rhoweI can foresee the whole thing coming tumbling down like a house of cards
15:44.53AndyMillarnah, that bit's generally fine :p
15:45.00AndyMillaronce it's up... you're OK#
15:45.06rhowe<PROTECTED>
15:45.09rhowe<PROTECTED>
15:45.11AndyMillargetting it up in the first place is the hard bit
15:45.11rhowehmmmm
15:45.25AndyMillar(if only they had viagra for clusters)
15:45.28rhoweHow do you get 7G into 6.62G?
15:45.48AndyMillargzip
15:46.31rhowenah
15:46.39rhoweI'll just cut the swap space in half :)
15:47.05rhoweOne thing I'm not doing is basing all my VMs on a single Debian lenny snapshot
15:47.12rhoweI reckon that'd save quite some storage :)
15:47.56rhoweFilesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
15:47.56rhowe/dev/sda1             2.9G  1.1G  1.9G  36% /
15:48.03rhowehmm, I think I can shave some off of that too
15:48.11AndyMillarwtf do these VMs run with so little disk?
15:48.46rhoweBasic things - DNS, squid, apache, spamassassin, openldap, Jetty, cvs, bacula
15:49.08cpufreakare you from the 1990s rhowe?
15:49.11rhowehaha
15:49.24cpufreakyou're not using the mad l33t new things
15:49.37rhoweYeah, I should switch to svn I know
15:49.45bilarhah someone else who uses bacula :D
15:49.48AndyMillarcpufreak: atp's over yours at the moment
15:49.49rhowebacula is awesome
15:49.57bilarhisn't it just
15:49.59cpufreakpdns, varnish, nginx, gmail, kerberos, GSE, git, etc
15:50.03cpufreakAndyMillar: no he just left
15:50.04cpufreakI saw him
15:50.06AndyMillarah :)
15:50.14rhoweAndyMillar: Fancy knocking me up some fancy visualisation software for the cluster? :)
15:50.21boudiccasrsnapshot gets my vote
15:50.28AndyMillarrhowe: if I had time ;)
15:52.22rhowecpufreak: Frankly, with just me and 100-odd users wanting help with things like creating folders, setting out of office replies and matching the name of a printer on their computer to the name on the wall near the printer, I'm a bit tied for time :)
15:53.31ChoHagAh well it seems like you're doing the tough stuff.
15:54.14rhowecpufreak: I only just got everything off of etch and onto lenny!
16:18.01rhoweAh, finally. All the VMs on the cluster
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18:01.15kjsanyone have any idea what happened with the trains today from paddington?
18:01.35kjsalmost a 3 hour delay, aparntly someone killed themselfs?
18:04.16cpufreakalexander mcqueen killed himself
18:04.29AlexI stopped caring when I was highlighted more than once about it :(
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