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09:04.50 | ChoHag | Ah SVN. How we love thee. |
09:04.56 | ChoHag | svn: Directory 'foo' is missing |
09:05.01 | ChoHag | $ mkdir foo && svn up |
09:05.11 | ChoHag | D foo |
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09:50.36 | Mohan | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2327/2514455010_c699bd12bc.jpg |
09:50.58 | Mohan | Tux lunch.. |
10:52.23 | ChoHag | So who went to the gllug meet yesterday? |
10:55.02 | Cope | not I |
10:55.54 | z00dax | me neither |
10:56.22 | Cope | is there still an irc stats bot on gllug? |
10:56.29 | Cope | ibot: hello |
10:56.30 | ibot | Howdy Bub |
10:56.43 | Cope | wonder if it still produces a stats page |
10:56.46 | Cope | i used to like that |
10:56.57 | Cope | ibot cope |
10:56.58 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
10:57.07 | Cope | ibot william |
10:57.08 | ibot | somebody said william was the son of Cope, who is living with Cope!, or not to grow up anything like George, or probably eating |
10:57.20 | Cope | ibot Cope |
10:57.21 | ibot | ACTION frowns, "I'm coping fine thank you." |
10:57.24 | Cope | frown |
10:57.49 | Cope | ibot JD |
10:57.50 | ibot | somebody said jd was looking for a indie or nu-metaler geek girl, non-smoker, or that's Councillor JD to you! |
10:58.09 | Cope | ibot dankolb |
10:58.17 | z00dax | ibot: wethrin |
10:58.18 | ibot | [wethrin] bigger than a breadbox, unless said breadbox is > 5'11" long, or silly, or afraid that its time to correct how people use it's, or ha, or bigger than a bread box |
10:58.33 | wethrin | yarr? |
10:58.37 | Cope | ibot clyphox |
10:58.37 | ibot | clyphox is probably a man of his word. someone who blows up microwave ovens |
10:58.43 | Cope | hello wethrin |
10:58.46 | wethrin | hello |
10:59.00 | Cope | i haven't been in this channel for a very very ong time |
10:59.03 | Cope | shall i come back? |
10:59.10 | wethrin | Yes, why not |
10:59.25 | wethrin | It's only mildly busy during office hours |
10:59.33 | Cope | you will have to tell me who all the new people are |
10:59.44 | wethrin | I don't know half of them :) |
10:59.50 | Cope | smiles |
10:59.52 | Cope | us old timers |
10:59.55 | wethrin | yeah |
11:00.08 | wethrin | I've been around here about 9 years now |
11:00.09 | Cope | ibot jenson |
11:00.10 | ibot | jenson is probably all id |
11:00.12 | wethrin | Seen people come and go |
11:00.25 | Cope | 8 yrs for me |
11:00.30 | wethrin | youngster |
11:00.33 | z00dax | I dont really know most of the old timers too well, and i definitely dont know most of the new timers. |
11:00.38 | z00dax | us inbetweentimers |
11:00.55 | Cope | ibot spudulike |
11:00.56 | ibot | [spudulike] Colin, rarely Mr Murphy. |
11:01.06 | Cope | ibot tarragon |
11:01.07 | ibot | from memory, tarragon is Cheap, by his own admission. the felt dragon of life |
11:01.22 | Cope | ibot zarchary |
11:01.30 | Cope | ibot zachary |
11:01.31 | ibot | from memory, zachary is cute, or changing smelly nappies |
11:01.53 | Cope | ibot highbury |
11:01.54 | ibot | it has been said that highbury is Steve, home page http://www.highbury.demon.co.uk, currently available for contract or permanent position, as a Unix Administrator and Security Consultant, or http://www.highbury.demon.co.uk |
11:02.08 | Cope | wethrin: who elsE? |
11:03.12 | wethrin | I can't remember now |
11:03.13 | wethrin | ibot logs |
11:03.14 | ibot | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
11:03.19 | Cope | ah |
11:03.42 | wethrin | oh, morsing was around, of course |
11:04.08 | Cope | gregj :) |
11:04.19 | wethrin | and pawel |
11:04.29 | Cope | ooh... erm... french chap |
11:04.40 | Cope | no italian - formi! |
11:05.34 | Cope | murble |
11:05.42 | Cope | xiaoqi |
11:06.52 | Cope | oh... eye69 - you've been around for ages |
11:07.30 | wethrin | Catalonian! |
11:07.40 | wethrin | murb's still around on other IRC channels |
11:07.42 | Cope | yeah |
11:07.48 | Cope | what was alec - a4226 or something |
11:07.51 | Cope | *alex |
11:07.54 | wethrin | spqr |
11:08.01 | Cope | resudaed |
11:08.11 | Cope | oh - paul cupis |
11:08.12 | wethrin | oh yes. He's on Facebook occasionally |
11:08.51 | Alex | *Cope |
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11:09.04 | Cope | Alex: lo |
11:09.49 | Cope | oh of course, jason_ukfsn |
11:10.10 | jason_ukfsn | of course me what? |
11:10.17 | wethrin | you were around in the Good Old Days |
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11:10.31 | wethrin | when LCD monitors were shiny and new, and something to be awed |
11:11.07 | Mohan | oh ok, I have never worked with it. so I cant comment. |
11:11.15 | jason_ukfsn | Oh yes. I even bought one. A shiny new 15" LCD monitor from CDT which they replaced foc 4 years later when it broke |
11:11.21 | wethrin | Mohan: Wrong channel? |
11:11.26 | Mohan | :( |
11:11.37 | Cope | hello Mohan - who are you? |
11:11.58 | Mohan | Hello Cope, I'm Mohan |
11:12.14 | Cope | bows; pleased to meet you. |
11:12.38 | Cope | who was that mad russian chap |
11:12.40 | Cope | ivan? |
11:12.55 | wethrin | My first Gllug meeting was the one he stormed out of |
11:13.02 | wethrin | and Colin and John took over |
11:13.03 | Mohan | says nice to meet you as well. |
11:15.09 | DiscordianUK | Ivan B? |
11:15.43 | DiscordianUK | remembers the Docklands meetings |
11:20.13 | gregj | Cope: :) |
11:21.43 | hali | wethrin: hehe, why did he storm out? someone slagged off perl? :) |
11:22.58 | wethrin | I don't remember |
11:23.06 | wethrin | something about the direction of where gllug was going |
11:23.13 | ChoHag | Do mad Russians need a reason? |
11:25.49 | DiscordianUK | remembers Colin |
11:34.58 | Cope | used to live near Colin |
11:56.42 | Mohan | I've got a simple query regarding netbackup, If I have /* in exclude_list and /var/www, /etc in in include_list. will it still backup /var/www and /etc or will it not backup the whole system ? |
11:57.50 | hali | not sure, why not just stick /etc and /var/www in the policy? |
11:57.57 | hali | instead of ALL_DRIVES (or /) |
11:58.19 | hali | hates batteling with netbackup |
12:03.18 | Cope | Mohan: i think that it will not back up anythng |
12:19.34 | Mohan | ok, thanks. |
12:23.45 | Mohan | hali: Its the default backup provided by NTT, we maintain a separate backup ourselves as they charge a fortune for it. I just dont want NTT to backup anything. |
12:24.24 | Mohan | I'm going to comment out all the lines in include_list and just have the exclude_list with /* . |
12:27.38 | Mohan | If you forget to turn off thier backups they will backup the whole system and charge you for it. |
12:36.41 | hali | how annoying |
12:38.25 | hali | depending on how much you pay, can't you just get a cheap datacenter link in a second DC and do replication yourself? |
12:38.34 | hali | a datahop gig port between london dc's is dirt cheap |
12:39.12 | hali | you need the advanced disk option in netbackup if you want it in fancy netbackup format |
12:39.46 | hali | which could get pricey, but copying important data with snapshots or something could be a cost saving |
12:40.50 | Cope | doesn't love VxNB |
12:40.50 | AndyMillar | surely it'd be cheaper and better to use rsnapshot to an off-site device? |
12:53.19 | Mohan | we do backup it up to an offsite location. NTT is cheaper than Rackspace but very reliable. It has got soemthing to do with geographical location of the servers. |
12:55.28 | Mohan | we have the rest of the servers in US, which is much cheaper than these both. |
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12:59.46 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
13:13.01 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I know you don't do identi.ca twitter etc so you'll have missed this "If you're colleague orders 80 of these http://tinyurl.com/ydo3w79 for an install today it helps if you have the VGA cables. Oops!" someone should have checked the delivery |
13:54.00 | z00dax | humm NTT ... aka Verio in the US |
13:54.13 | z00dax | I've had some dealings with them in the past, not the best at customer support those guys |
14:12.50 | wethrin | dick_turpin: I couldn't possibly comment about being on twittr |
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14:13.57 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I'm considering applying for the opensuse community managers job |
14:14.02 | wethrin | Good plan |
14:15.01 | dick_turpin | Mate I wouldn't even get a rejection letter, they'd be unable to write it due to hysterics |
14:15.18 | wethrin | Hey, at least it'll brighten their day |
14:15.40 | dick_turpin | I wonder if your supposed to send a CV? |
14:16.13 | dick_turpin | Or would "Can I apply for the job please" do? |
14:16.41 | DiscordianUK | Do you have a lot of prior involvement with opensuse ? |
14:17.51 | zeroXten | anyone know any good recommendation docs for hostname and dns naming conventions? |
14:18.14 | wethrin | RFC 2100 |
14:18.27 | wethrin | http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2100.html |
14:18.40 | zeroXten | ah yeah, i read that earlier... |
14:18.56 | dick_turpin | DiscordianUK: Some, many moons ago |
14:19.30 | dick_turpin | I've used it for 8 or 9 years |
14:19.32 | DiscordianUK | I'd imagine a prerequisite would be an ongoing involvement |
14:19.51 | DiscordianUK | and participation in the forums and irc channels |
14:19.52 | dick_turpin | I thought that but apparently not |
14:20.11 | wethrin | zeroXten: Also, RFC 1178 |
14:20.12 | DiscordianUK | That would almost certainly be the case for fedora |
14:20.28 | dick_turpin | Basically they need someone with a plan |
14:21.12 | DiscordianUK | Good luck then |
14:22.15 | dick_turpin | Dunno if I could stand the pressure of being famous like Jono & Aq |
14:23.31 | wethrin | you'll only be famous if you actively do something |
14:23.53 | DiscordianUK | You mean infamous surely |
14:24.03 | wethrin | yes, yes I suppose I do |
14:25.27 | dick_turpin | (14:23:13) wethrin: you'll only be famous if you actively do something What you trying to say? :-/ |
14:25.48 | wethrin | you'll be quite safe and won't be famous :) |
14:29.56 | rhowe | hm, matching on multipath devices with udev seems to be tricky |
14:34.08 | zeroXten | thanks wethrin btw |
14:35.22 | wethrin | yw |
14:42.00 | zeroXten | hmm, now its just site names which are being a pain ;) |
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16:05.51 | Mohan | and ? |
16:06.09 | wethrin | wrong window again? |
16:06.13 | Mohan | :( |
16:06.25 | Mohan | today is a complete disaster .. |
16:07.27 | wethrin | It's weekend tomorrow |
16:17.01 | jason_ukfsn | it's the weekend this evening! Don't wait for tomorrow - a good lot of it will have passed you by! |
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16:19.34 | dick_turpin | The weekend is cancelled it will now be Monday tomorrow |
16:19.56 | boudiccas | spoilsport!!!!!! |
16:20.04 | wethrin | Booo Mondays |
16:21.54 | dick_turpin | And because people in the UK are having too much fun and spending way too much money it has been decided that every day of the working week will be Monday I.e. 5 Mondays per week |
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17:17.49 | hali | hm, very odd... i made a very funny "gay for pay" comment and my colleuge thought i was slagging off homos |
17:18.08 | hali | it's weird that no one is using 'gay' for cheerfull these days |
17:18.15 | hali | except myself of course |
17:18.25 | DiscordianUK | chuckles |
17:18.52 | DiscordianUK | gay for homosexual has been normal usage since about 1973 |
17:19.07 | hali | yes, but i don't know that, im swedish (or at least that is the story im sticking to) |
17:19.38 | DiscordianUK | There's no equivalent in Swedish? |
17:20.05 | hali | gay in swedish 100% means homosexual |
17:20.37 | DiscordianUK | Well it's what it normally means now in English |
17:22.02 | DiscordianUK | Though strangely the OED doesn't acknowledge that usage |
17:22.33 | DiscordianUK | or at least it's (d) |
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