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| 09:09.05 | CMooney | Hi, Is there anyone here who can update the ChanServ message to mention the next meeting? http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2010-February/082543.html |
| 09:11.12 | gregj | How many MS employees does it take to |
| 09:11.14 | gregj | change a lightbulb? None, they just redefine dark as light. |
| 09:21.58 | AndyMillar | CMooney: there's probably limited point, does anyone even read them? |
| 09:22.27 | CMooney | AndyMillar, Then why are they there in the first place if they are not intended to be read? |
| 09:22.42 | CMooney | Seems a useful passive way of making annoucements to me. |
| 09:25.23 | AndyMillar | well, decent irc clients don't make it obvious, and I'm pretty sure this one hasn't changed in years |
| 09:26.14 | ChoHag | It only displays when you join, which I never do. |
| 09:26.24 | ChoHag | Surely the topic is a more appropriate location? |
| 09:26.45 | ChoHag | (never, of course, means rarely) |
| 09:27.10 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: and when you so join, it's probably displayed in your status window, not the channel window |
| 09:27.17 | AndyMillar | which you probably never check :p |
| 09:27.22 | ChoHag | Indeed. |
| 09:36.44 | wethrin | Oh, topic |
| 09:36.47 | wethrin | yes |
| 09:36.50 | *** mode/#gllug [+o wethrin] by ChanServ |
| 09:37.38 | *** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG - next meeting 18th March, 7.30pm, Univ. Westminster, New Cavendish Street - http://www.gllug.org.uk |
| 09:37.49 | wethrin | CMooney: That topic okay with you? |
| 09:47.38 | CMooney | Brilliant thanks wethrin |
| 09:47.41 | wethrin | cool |
| 09:47.43 | *** mode/#gllug [-o wethrin] by wethrin |
| 09:52.42 | hali | morning |
| 09:56.29 | ChoHag | Oops. Missed the daily team standup again. |
| 09:56.37 | cpufreak | lamer |
| 09:56.59 | cpufreak | :) |
| 09:59.57 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: fail |
| 10:00.10 | ChoHag | I know. |
| 10:00.12 | ChoHag | I feel so bad. |
| 10:01.12 | cpufreak | chohag: what do you use for yahooim? |
| 10:01.44 | cpufreak | I'm on voda3g and which blocks it |
| 10:01.48 | cpufreak | or seems to. |
| 10:01.51 | antiphase | You only missed me accidentally inciting one of our southern hemisphere brethren, and people getting bollocked for not sending enough crappy email about releases |
| 10:01.59 | cpufreak | so a cli thingybob might be useful |
| 10:02.10 | ChoHag | cpufreak: bitlbee |
| 10:02.12 | antiphase | You can do Yapoo! over HTTP |
| 10:02.18 | cpufreak | antiphase: in theory |
| 10:02.18 | ChoHag | Pretends to be an IRC server. |
| 10:02.25 | cpufreak | in practice the yahoo im client crashes |
| 10:02.31 | ChoHag | Or last time I checked gaim had a really awful cli client. |
| 10:02.32 | cpufreak | and I don't fancy downloading adium today |
| 10:02.34 | antiphase | which is what I would do in the instance that I had for example an HTTP proxy at the end of a VPN connection |
| 10:02.38 | wethrin | I use bitlbee too |
| 10:03.27 | cpufreak | I'm vpnd in, but the genuine all american yahoo osx client just locks up |
| 10:03.36 | cpufreak | and webmessanger.yahoo.com fails to work too |
| 10:05.16 | AndyMillar | bitlbee is win |
| 10:05.23 | cpufreak | is it win for yahoo though? |
| 10:06.21 | wethrin | It supports yahoo |
| 10:06.26 | AndyMillar | 10:06 <@root> Adds an account on the given server with the specified protocol, username and password to the account list. Supported protocols right now are: Jabber, MSN, OSCAR (AIM/ICQ) and Yahoo. For more information about adding an account, see help account |
| 10:06.33 | cpufreak | you forget I'm a manager |
| 10:06.40 | cpufreak | this cli stuff is alien these days :p |
| 10:06.55 | AndyMillar | shoots cpufreak |
| 10:07.20 | wethrin | use mibbit.com to connect to a public bitlbee server |
| 10:07.37 | AndyMillar | just because you're a manager doesn't mean you have to stop using vi to write all your documents |
| 10:07.59 | cpufreak | I'm connected up |
| 10:08.07 | cpufreak | on bittlebee |
| 10:08.12 | cpufreak | running my own server, of course |
| 10:08.26 | AndyMillar | in the same manner as just because I've stopped drinking doesn't mean I've got to stop going to the pub! |
| 10:09.34 | cpufreak | lol |
| 10:09.48 | cpufreak | oand just becaue you have stopped drinking you don't need to actually stop drinking |
| 10:10.16 | AndyMillar | yes it does :-) |
| 10:11.07 | cpufreak | no it doesn't |
| 10:12.51 | AndyMillar | it does if I want to lose another 5-10kg ;) |
| 10:14.55 | wethrin | just drink a bit less |
| 10:14.58 | wethrin | don't give up fully! |
| 10:21.38 | AndyMillar | nah, at 220kcal a pint, I'm happy not drinking at all :) |
| 10:21.50 | AndyMillar | plus, once you've had one, another is such a good idea |
| 10:25.21 | Mohan | Its a regular tar archive backup.. |
| 10:25.30 | Mohan | oops :( |
| 10:26.22 | wethrin | but it tastes so good... |
| 10:26.55 | Mohan | Anyways, I have a silly question regarding file permissions.. I have 2 servers(a,b), I have created a user named testuser1 in servera and testuser1 in serverb but the user id differs between both servers. but when I backup a file owned by testuser1 in servera and put it in serverb how does it shows that the file is owned by testuser1 automatically eventhough the testuser1 id is different in serverb than in servera. |
| 10:27.17 | Mohan | I was under the impression it identifies via userid as it shows the unknown userid no when a non existant userowned file is copied to a server. its a normal tar -cvzf backup.. |
| 10:28.49 | antiphase | Tarchives contain alphanumeric usernames iirc |
| 10:29.59 | antiphase | which you may see if you `tar -ztvf` one |
| 10:30.12 | ChoHag | They can contain either. |
| 10:30.35 | ChoHag | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:30.35 | ChoHag | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.01 | antiphase | You didn't RTFM did you? What's wrong with you, man! |
| 10:31.49 | Mohan | I thought tar will do so only if told to do so.. didnt know its the default behaviour. |
| 10:41.50 | ChoHag | Can root write to a random processes stdin? |
| 10:42.14 | ChoHag | eg. 'echo cd / > bash-process-occupying-the-fs-i-need-to-unmount' |
| 10:42.47 | antiphase | `kill bash-process-occupying-the-fs-i-need-to-unmount` |
| 10:44.26 | ChoHag | bah |
| 11:28.08 | ChoHag | It still isn't lunchtime. |
| 11:51.05 | AndyMillar | ChoHag: stop complaining and do some work ;) |
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| 12:09.59 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 12:10.49 | wethrin | hi |
| 12:13.18 | dick_turpin | ello uncle wethrin |
| 12:13.31 | wethrin | tell me a story! |
| 12:15.10 | dick_turpin | Um |
| 12:16.03 | dick_turpin | TBH I don't have one for a minute |
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| 16:11.40 | hali | hm, jolly good |
| 16:11.51 | hali | just found out that our company spends 18k USD a month on webex :) |
| 16:11.57 | wethrin | webex? |
| 16:12.02 | hali | web conferencing |
| 16:12.09 | wethrin | oh |
| 16:12.16 | wethrin | wouldn't travel be cheaper? |
| 16:12.30 | cpufreak | no |
| 16:12.39 | wethrin | more fun, though |
| 16:12.49 | cpufreak | $JOB-1 spent >100K/month on travel |
| 16:12.54 | cpufreak | and only had ~100 peope |
| 16:13.01 | wethrin | ouch |
| 16:13.01 | cpufreak | record month was about 2.5M on travel I think |
| 16:13.09 | wethrin | 1st class? |
| 16:13.17 | cpufreak | no |
| 16:13.26 | wethrin | which reminds me. While I'm bored, I may as well book various train travels |
| 16:13.26 | cpufreak | economy |
| 16:13.37 | wethrin | okay, that is a lot |
| 16:13.47 | cpufreak | that was for an all company meeting |
| 16:14.03 | wethrin | CIJS: BMC Remedy IT Service Management is a truly awful piece of softare |
| 16:14.23 | cpufreak | at the time it had about 150 staff, and ~90 of them flew in from various places around the world |
| 16:14.27 | cpufreak | hotel for 150 staff for a week |
| 16:14.28 | cpufreak | and so on |
| 16:14.30 | wethrin | fair |
| 16:14.45 | cpufreak | it was insane |
| 16:50.39 | AndyMillar | soudns fun |
| 16:58.09 | cpufreak | oh it was that too |
| 17:46.43 | rhowe | http://www.globaltimes.cn/www/english/metro-beijing/lifestyle/education&careers/2010-02/505145.html |
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