IRC log for #gllug on 20100325

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01:35.38*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG - next meeting 18th March, 7.30pm, Univ. Westminster, New Cavendish Street - http://www.gllug.org.uk
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03:16.47*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG - next meeting 18th March, 7.30pm, Univ. Westminster, New Cavendish Street - http://www.gllug.org.uk
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08:26.19j0nrmorning all
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08:59.56CMooneywethrin, There is a another talk planned for April [http://lists.gllug.org.uk/pipermail/gllug/2010-March/082899.html] any chance you could update the topic?
09:01.00CMooneyoh and could you update the website too?
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09:32.20*** topic/#gllug by wethrin -> Greater London LUG - next meeting 15th April, 7.30pm, Univ. Westminster, New Cavendish Street - http://www.gllug.org.uk
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09:32.28wethrinI'll get the website done later
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09:50.08ChoHagI've been contacted by a pimp calling himself Stephen Hawkins.
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10:16.04ChoHagI started to write 'text message', as in 'send me a text message' and the phone helpfully wanted to autotype 'testicles' for me.
10:16.32wethrinballs to that, then
10:16.43CMooneyThanks wethrin
10:18.50wethrinyw
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11:23.37ChoHagWhy do companies feel the need to capitalise my email address?
11:23.54ChoHagSurely if they really wanted to standardise on a particular case it should be lower.
11:26.53wethrinUPPER CASE IS MORE PROFESSIONAL
11:31.11ChoHagI see.
11:31.13ChoHagSorry.
11:31.15ChoHagI SEE>
11:31.40wethrinI would just like to say this:
11:31.45wethrinBMC Remedy is a STEAMING PILE OF SHIT
11:32.03ChoHag"IT Service Management Suite"
11:32.06ChoHagYup. It is.
11:32.25ChoHagThey might as well just say that on their home page and be done with it.
11:32.32ChoHagOh wait. They do.
11:32.58haliBMC* is utter wank
11:33.21ChoHagBah. Meeting.
11:33.57wethrinIt is.
11:34.30wethrinso, we can't do a case-insensitive search for incidents or users because "It would have cost too much money to develop"
11:34.38wethrinHELLO. upper($field) - it's not hard
11:35.11wethrinAlso, £15k/year/licence. We have a fair number of these
11:35.26wethrinFor the cost of 2 licences, you could hire someone to write a better system
11:50.23haliwe use otrs
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12:39.18ChoHagHmm. According to MS, Windows Update is not part of Maintenance, but rather is on a par with Media Player and IE.
12:39.39ChoHagBecause, you know, updating is only what people do when they're bored and want to be entertained.
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12:45.59dick_turpinAfternoon all
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13:33.10kjsdick_turpin: afternoon
13:33.29kjsanyone know of a data destruction company in London?
13:47.42dick_turpinkjs: Hi
13:57.53kjshi
13:58.27halikjs: iron mountain
14:02.40ChoHagAre Oracle based in London?
14:05.08kjsChoHag: reading
14:05.24ChoHagOh. Too bad for y ou.
14:05.40ChoHagA bit pricey anyway.
14:06.05wethrinkjs: Go to B&Q. Buy a sledghammer
14:06.10wethrinhave fun!
14:06.13kjsChoHag: why would I want Oracle?
14:06.33kjswethrin: Yeah, I would, they want a certificate of data destruction
14:06.50kjsI don't think a youtube video link would sufice
14:06.55wethrinMS Word has certificates as some of their templates
14:08.12kjsargh this mouth ulcer is killing me
14:10.12ChoHagYou wanted data destruction didn't you?
14:10.21ChoHagI think this is reboot number 7 of the installing Windows charade.
14:10.32wethrinIs this including service packs, etc.?
14:10.54ChoHagYes. Getting it installed, updated, virused and put on the domain.
14:11.14wethrinyeah, seems about reasonable
14:11.31ChoHagITYM normal.
14:12.04wethrinaye
14:12.18wethrinon the plus side, audio tends to work properly with Windows
14:12.33wethrinand you can watch Youtube without your browsers have a shitty fit over your CPU
14:12.37ChoHagTrue, but for the lack of an emulated sound card.
14:12.48ChoHagHave you tried ditching alsa for oss?
14:13.40wethrinI used OSS 15 years ago
14:13.47wethrinwell, not quite
14:13.56wethrinMore than 10, though
14:14.05wethrinAnd it worked
14:14.10wethrineven back in kernel 1.mumble
14:14.11ChoHagAye. It works now too.
14:14.18wethrinsometimes
14:14.20wethrinon a good day
14:14.24wethrinif everything goes right with the world
14:16.48ChoHagHmm. Apparentyl "I neither have nor want sound support" is not an option in Windows 7.
14:17.34wethrinjust mute the card
14:17.48kjsW7 keeps BSOD'ing on my home machine
14:17.51ChoHagI have an icon on the bar telling me I don't have a sound card.
14:17.58wethrinkjs: You have dodgy hardware. HTH.
14:18.02ChoHagSorry. "Audio Output Device".
14:18.26kjswethrin: na, think it's sound card driver  for my M Audio FW410
14:18.57wethrindodgy hardware :)
14:19.05wethrinif the drivers haven't been written competently...
14:19.15wethrinand at a guess they're not WHQL certified
14:22.18kjsnope
14:22.27kjsthink they are Beta as well
14:22.32kjsthat or no sound though...
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14:30.06ChoHagOK. Before I joined the domain I could see 100s of machines on the network. Now I can see about 2 dozen, and none is the file server share thingy.
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15:13.44ChoHagGah! Why do people comment out things and commit it to a VCS?
15:15.09antiphaseBecause they are shit at their job
15:17.54ChoHagSadly true.
15:24.48Leeds"1 day, 0 hrs, 11 mins until your next flight with us..."
15:24.56Leedsanyone around London this weekend? ;)
15:28.56wethrinabout 9m people?
15:29.08Leedsah, good
15:39.03ChoHagsmbclient: cli_session_setup_spnego: got a bad server principal, trying to guess ...
15:39.06ChoHagYou guessed wrong.
15:39.25ChoHagAnd thanks for letting me correct you, btw!
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19:58.50ChoHag>And in the case of politicians,
19:58.50ChoHagLimit them to 2 terms; one in the house, one in jail.
19:58.55ChoHagThis is something I could get behind.
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22:46.41z00daxeurosport hd has samba dancing on at the moment
22:46.54z00daxbizareee
22:49.15DiscordianUKodd
22:59.48wethrinCould be worse; could be NFS dancing
23:02.47DiscordianUKtries to imagine that
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