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| 09:24.15 | Mohan | morning |
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| 11:10.28 | ChoHag | Man Cuts Off Penis Because God Told Him... |
| 11:10.32 | ChoHag | ...There was also a suggestion he may be suffering from psychological problems. |
| 11:13.40 | DiscordianUK | No way! |
| 11:34.46 | ChoHag | Wow. Chillies never seem to be so good in the past tense. |
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| 12:39.09 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 12:40.34 | wethrin | hello dick_turpin |
| 12:40.41 | wethrin | did you see my responses to you on Facebook? |
| 12:40.55 | dick_turpin | Ello uncle wethrin |
| 12:41.39 | dick_turpin | Ooh obviously not, was you insulting me? |
| 12:42.44 | wethrin | no |
| 12:42.57 | wethrin | screen isn't in the default BSD packages, but you can build it from ports |
| 12:42.59 | wethrin | or use tmux |
| 12:43.04 | wethrin | which works in a similar way |
| 12:43.08 | wethrin | with similar keybindings |
| 12:43.58 | dick_turpin | Ooh tmux |
| 12:44.03 | dick_turpin | Lemmie look |
| 12:45.07 | dick_turpin | Booh! fatal: main: lost server |
| 12:45.13 | wethrin | har |
| 12:46.36 | dick_turpin | All I need is the ability to ssh to the freenas box, kick irssi off then log off. Problem is that will kill irssi unless I use screen or can figure out how to run it as a service |
| 12:47.10 | wethrin | mmm |
| 12:47.14 | wethrin | tmux will do what you want |
| 12:47.21 | wethrin | and it'll do it in pretty much the same way as screen will |
| 12:47.35 | wethrin | although the default control character is ^B, rather than ^A |
| 12:51.29 | dick_turpin | But it won't run cap-i-tan |
| 12:54.39 | dick_turpin | starts to strum his fingers waiting for a response |
| 12:55.37 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Ooh ooh it runs as root! |
| 12:55.57 | dick_turpin | How do I get it to run as a normal user then? |
| 12:56.13 | ChoHag | wethrin: Is that 'I have a bigger penis^Wascii code' stuff? |
| 13:03.27 | ChoHag | He: "Have you ever seen a baby with cancer?" |
| 13:03.27 | ChoHag | Us: "Yes sir" |
| 13:03.27 | ChoHag | He: "Well, I dont think the baby was smoking were they?" |
| 13:07.13 | dick_turpin | It suffered passive smoking instead |
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| 14:40.34 | ChoHag | <Microsoft> Getting rid of the newlines in html emails, and nothing else, will bring those massive "Me too!" messages down to a sensible size. |
| 14:54.22 | hali | http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article7065824.ece |
| 14:54.34 | hali | hmmm, good matched name of the author |
| 14:54.39 | DiscordianUK | Notice the byline |
| 14:54.41 | DiscordianUK | Lol |
| 15:28.17 | ChoHag | Some of the NICs on this sheet are marked "passthought". |
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| 15:58.49 | ChoHag | Unionists are cocks. |
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| 16:23.12 | wethrin | hello |
| 16:31.23 | wethrin | dick_turpin: tmux Just Worked for me as a normal user |
| 16:31.23 | ChoHag | Indeed. |
| 16:32.26 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Dunno then, on the FreeNAS box it won't but if I su - it runs fine |
| 16:32.44 | dick_turpin | At least thats from an ssh session |
| 16:33.07 | wethrin | what happens? |
| 16:36.12 | dick_turpin | fatal: main: lost server |
| 16:36.38 | dick_turpin | How do I reattache? |
| 16:36.52 | dick_turpin | tmux -r fails |
| 16:40.20 | dick_turpin | tmux attach-session -d |
| 16:40.25 | dick_turpin | Pah |
| 16:42.37 | wethrin | hm |
| 16:42.57 | DiscordianUK | Is dtach available for BSD? |
| 16:43.13 | DiscordianUK | I can't believe there's no screen port |
| 16:43.29 | ChoHag | I know the BSD folks and the GNU folks hate each other, but was using the same command line options really too much to ask? |
| 16:43.33 | wethrin | There is a screen *port* |
| 16:43.39 | wethrin | there's no screen *package* |
| 16:43.46 | wethrin | not in FreeBSD 7, anyway |
| 16:44.12 | DiscordianUK | FreeBSD isn't like centos/rhel |
| 16:44.28 | DiscordianUK | You are expected to do some assembly as needed |
| 16:44.34 | ChoHag | DiscordianUK: Yes. Thank fuck for that. |
| 16:45.59 | DiscordianUK | Hey I build packages for stuff I need on RHEL/CentOS/fedora/Solaris |
| 16:46.29 | DiscordianUK | Not a solution I suggest for most users of those platforms |
| 16:46.29 | dick_turpin | http://www.dayid.org/os/notes/tm.html tmux cheat sheet |
| 16:47.40 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Still not solved the tmux-->normal user though :-( |
| 16:47.46 | wethrin | WFM |
| 16:48.06 | wethrin | FreeBSD 8 has screen as a pre-built package |
| 16:48.28 | dick_turpin | Yeah but not for 7.2 :-( |
| 16:48.40 | DiscordianUK | I suspected that FreeBSD 8 was the last I looked at |
| 16:49.09 | ChoHag | ./configure && gmake install ? |
| 16:49.50 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Actually no. Its just |
| 16:49.54 | dick_turpin | make |
| 16:50.03 | dick_turpin | make install |
| 16:50.12 | dick_turpin | Apparently |
| 16:50.25 | DiscordianUK | indeed |
| 16:50.29 | ChoHag | Is fbsd make gmake? |
| 16:50.49 | wethrin | no |
| 16:51.04 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Upgrade your BSD! |
| 16:51.17 | wethrin | cd /usr/ports/foo/bar |
| 16:51.18 | ChoHag | Didn't think so. |
| 16:51.20 | wethrin | make |
| 16:51.23 | dick_turpin | But then I've spent nearly all day trawling through hundreds of sites all giving small bits of the 'whole' picture you need |
| 16:51.24 | wethrin | make install |
| 16:51.30 | ChoHag | And you can guarantee gnu screen needs gnu make. |
| 16:52.00 | ChoHag | Then again, I hear most (all?) other makes aren't great. |
| 16:52.01 | dick_turpin | I must say sometimes the info you get of the net is appalling |
| 16:52.04 | wethrin | if it's in ports, it'll work with the standard Ports build system |
| 16:52.16 | wethrin | dick_turpin: Specially on IRC. I wouldn't trust anything from there |
| 16:52.35 | dick_turpin | No Mr Google tbh |
| 16:53.38 | dick_turpin | You realy do need a small amount of knowledge to know what some of these site is telling you is a load of old kippers |
| 16:53.43 | dick_turpin | really |
| 16:53.55 | dick_turpin | sites |
| 16:54.19 | ChoHag | Google is amazingly good at finding the rubbish ones. |
| 16:54.49 | dick_turpin | Right home time! |
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