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| 07:54.20 | ChoHag | Wow. Some people should not be allowed to give people advice. |
| 07:54.38 | ChoHag | Problem: DNS is failing somewhere between apt, squid and apt-cacher-ng. |
| 07:55.01 | ChoHag | Part of some moron's given solution is to sudo rm -fr /var/spool/squid/* |
| 07:55.38 | ChoHag | Along, rather pointlessly, with /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb and most of var/lib/apt/lists. |
| 07:56.04 | ChoHag | The actual solution, meanwhile, is to restart apt-cacher-ng because it's broken and remembers failed DNS replies in perpetuity. |
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| 08:14.18 | wethrin | that's broken behaviour |
| 08:14.33 | wethrin | And I'll bet if you submit a bugreport, it'll come back with WONTFIX |
| 08:17.17 | ChoHag | Most likely. |
| 08:17.30 | ChoHag | I think bug engines should s/WONT/CANT/ and be done with it. |
| 08:17.56 | wethrin | Not necessarily |
| 08:17.57 | antiphase | I think Linux and the things that live upon it are drowning in n00bz |
| 08:18.04 | antiphase | We need more LARTing |
| 08:18.11 | wethrin | Sometimes it's just the developer not being arsed |
| 08:18.19 | wethrin | which is definitely a WONT rather than CANT |
| 08:18.45 | wethrin | And thinking of Linux, I'd better drag my arse to work and see what new and innovative ways Fedora 12+ Gnome have to piss me off today |
| 08:18.49 | ChoHag | Except that sometimes it's CANT because I can't be arsed to learn the language and APIs I'm using. |
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| 08:42.54 | niv_ | hi all |
| 08:43.32 | niv_ | what tools help in merging two config files? |
| 08:44.04 | niv_ | so I can see what I got in the first and second file and write a third file based on the two |
| 08:44.08 | antiphase | diff |
| 08:44.10 | antiphase | comm |
| 08:50.42 | niv_ | anti: can I use diff interactively like an editor? |
| 08:54.31 | antiphase | No |
| 08:54.44 | antiphase | You could have done it by hand by now :P |
| 09:06.41 | gmarkall | niv_: How about meld? |
| 09:07.28 | niv_ | let me see |
| 09:12.16 | niv_ | meld is very good |
| 09:22.47 | wethrin | sdiff |
| 09:56.09 | ChoHag | You've got two eyes haven't you? |
| 09:56.23 | ChoHag | Each config file in a terminal, side by side. One per eye. |
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| 11:29.35 | Mohan | vimdiff |
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| 11:30.48 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
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| 12:20.57 | dick_turpin | So I did some Python tutorials a Wolves Lug technical meeting on Sunday |
| 12:21.06 | dick_turpin | There's a an Indian guy in Wolves Lug (Amo) has me wetting myself. While doing the Python exercises he said "Fuck me your slow" |
| 12:21.17 | dick_turpin | I'm doing my best |
| 12:21.36 | dick_turpin | Amo: just type the answers like me :-D |
| 12:21.43 | dick_turpin | Bwahahaha |
| 12:22.24 | Armand | Throw a brick at his head.. when it hits him say "Fuck me, you're slow....." |
| 12:23.45 | dick_turpin | He brought some Veggie Samosas along he said "You won't believe what my mum said while making them, do white people eat Indian food?" Bwahahahaha |
| 12:24.02 | Armand | O_O |
| 12:24.37 | Armand | There is a white guy in Harmondsworth that cooks the best damned Chicken Tikka Malasa going.. ¬_¬ |
| 12:24.49 | dick_turpin | Apparently I'm not allowed to sit next to him at the next technical meeting :-( |
| 12:24.57 | Armand | lol |
| 12:25.03 | Armand | Did teacher tell you off?? :P |
| 12:25.10 | dick_turpin | Yeesh |
| 12:25.12 | Armand | Hahaha |
| 12:31.32 | ChoHag | I thought white people eating Indian food was a contravention of the EU's racial segregation laws. |
| 12:33.21 | ChoHag | Got to keep them darkies under control, eh? And that means we can't go around liking their dodgy foreign but oh so tasty grub. |
| 12:33.25 | ChoHag | Wait. Did I say that? |
| 12:35.44 | Armand | lol |
| 12:35.55 | Armand | I also make a real nice coconut curry.. |
| 12:37.08 | ChoHag | My wife makes a decent Chicken Saag. Funny because she comes from an ex-soviet country which has had virtually no immigration since .. for ever. |
| 12:37.24 | ChoHag | Their national dish is beetroot. |
| 12:43.02 | antiphase | I always wondered why people find cooking difficult, given the ease with which a recipe book may be acquired |
| 12:45.18 | wethrin | Getting the ingredients can be tedious |
| 12:45.39 | wethrin | and also the cooking process can be a bit tedious. Specially if you've just come back from work after a long day and are feeling tired |
| 12:45.43 | Armand | I've got 5 folders full of recipes and general cooking advice. |
| 12:45.49 | Armand | It's awesome. :) |
| 12:46.49 | antiphase | I wouldn't advocate cooking as a pastime, but I'm suspicious of people who claim to be good at it |
| 12:47.06 | antiphase | "Hi, I can follow instructions!" |
| 12:47.15 | antiphase | "The yard isn't going to sweep itself. Get going" |
| 12:49.36 | ChoHag | antiphase: In the case of many people I know, they measure things too finely. |
| 12:49.51 | wethrin | cooking's not purely following instructions |
| 12:50.05 | wethrin | making up your own stuff and experimenting is good too |
| 12:50.07 | ChoHag | Good cooking is making the instructions up as you go along. |
| 12:51.08 | ChoHag | In IT terms, it's the difference between a good dev/admin and a php copy pasta monkey. |
| 12:52.12 | wethrin | mmm, pasta |
| 12:52.19 | ChoHag | Anyway I like cooking, vaguely following a recipe if it's like nothing I've made before. Just not after work. |
| 12:53.21 | ChoHag | I don't believe I've ever looked at instructions on how to make a full roast. |
| 12:53.30 | ChoHag | Oh. Except yorkshire pudding. That's a bitch to get right. |
| 12:53.40 | wethrin | Put meat in oven. Cook. |
| 12:53.57 | ChoHag | Ah but for how long, and at what temperature? |
| 12:54.06 | wethrin | 90C, about 5 hours |
| 12:54.31 | ChoHag | When do the potatoes go in? And the parsnips. How do you make good gravy you can build a house with as God intended? |
| 12:54.49 | antiphase | Cheaper and easier to pay someone to do it |
| 12:55.34 | ChoHag | That said, the cooking part of a roast (except the gravy and yorkshire) is stupidly simple - it's all just a matter of timing. |
| 12:55.54 | ChoHag | I find it amusing that people can't do it. |
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| 13:49.14 | PcSett | Hi Peoples :) |
| 13:51.55 | ChoHag | Ah perl. while (still looping) { say something; stop looping if you want; } |
| 13:57.37 | antiphase | You lose at programming |
| 14:05.15 | dick_turpin | Two things I took away from yesterday: Tuples and Immutable the rest is just a blur |
| 14:07.16 | dick_turpin | Hm I might ping that |
| 14:09.54 | boudiccas | tuples sounds nice |
| 14:10.03 | boudiccas | like a biscuit with jam in the middle |
| 14:10.34 | dick_turpin | No biscuits I'm afraid |
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