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| 03:47.59 | coredump777 | I should say something witty and funny, but its too late down here to come up with anything... |
| 03:48.41 | coredump777 | so, hi. |
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| 09:25.12 | morsing | *wibble* |
| 09:25.15 | morsing | sabinef72! |
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| 09:58.37 | morsing | Provito! |
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| 11:09.53 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 11:17.38 | morsing | dick_turpin: *sigh* |
| 11:17.53 | wethrin | evenin', dick_turpin |
| 11:18.58 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Did you see my misses was in a car crash Tuesday night? |
| 11:19.16 | wethrin | no! |
| 11:19.18 | wethrin | Is she okay? |
| 11:19.52 | dick_turpin | Yeah http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/?p=1228 |
| 11:21.42 | wethrin | I'm glad she's okay! |
| 11:21.54 | wethrin | so...her workmate's car had no insurance because they ballsed up on cancelling it? |
| 11:22.46 | dick_turpin | Supposedly |
| 11:23.41 | dick_turpin | But this was done two months ago she kept saying "I've had nothing to say I've no insurance" well you wouldn't would you! |
| 11:26.23 | wethrin | no....if you cancel your insurace, they'll probably just send you a confirmation letter |
| 11:26.34 | wethrin | but given it's rather illegal to drive without insurance......whoops |
| 11:27.31 | dick_turpin | Oh it gets better, you'll love this |
| 11:28.06 | dick_turpin | The driver is planning to get compensation through the union from work! |
| 11:28.30 | dick_turpin | As are 2 of the passengers, the wife is NOT in the union |
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| 11:28.42 | morsing | celesteh! |
| 11:29.13 | celesteh | morsing! |
| 11:29.48 | morsing | celesteh: How have you been? *nuzzle* |
| 11:31.23 | wethrin | ehrrrr. Oh dear. |
| 11:33.21 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Under the factories ACT it looks like you are covered to and from work, however a good lawyer should be able to refute the claim certainly in the case of the driver given that the vehicle should not have been on the road |
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| 11:35.07 | wethrin | yeah, if the driver was uninsured... |
| 11:35.34 | wethrin | Hm, maybe the conversation was a bit too in-depth..... |
| 11:40.18 | dick_turpin | I know I have a nose bleed after typing that it made me look almost intelligent :-) |
| 11:42.19 | wethrin | hehe |
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| 12:30.25 | dick_turpin | wethrin: customer alert! |
| 12:30.38 | dick_turpin | do you want office with that? |
| 12:31.03 | dick_turpin | Customer: Yes I wanted to ask about that |
| 12:31.30 | dick_turpin | Customer: I've loads of copies of Office here, is it per machine now? |
| 12:31.42 | dick_turpin | Its always been per machine |
| 12:31.56 | dick_turpin | Customer: But I have lots of copies |
| 12:32.07 | dick_turpin | yes on every machine |
| 12:32.33 | dick_turpin | Customer: Hm You'd better give me a price if you must |
| 12:32.39 | dick_turpin | I must |
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| 16:02.14 | coredump | erm... hi. |
| 16:07.26 | coredump | So I dont live in london right now but I am trying to relocate there. For that I need a job, so I ask: is there a good job board/site for linux sysadmin jobs? |
| 16:08.25 | z00dax | coredump: try posting to the gllug list |
| 16:08.40 | Dominic | linuxjobs (at lug.org.uk) comes up with stuff sometimes |
| 16:09.18 | coredump | hmm ok, thank you |
| 16:10.51 | wethrin | the Gllug list has jobs from time to time |
| 16:12.01 | dick_turpin | Yeah which you apply for then they don't even bother to say "You're no good" or "we've changed our minds" Me? Bitter? |
| 16:12.08 | coredump | how is the market doing there, linux-wise? |
| 16:16.58 | mindbendr | coredump: we're hiring |
| 16:17.15 | mindbendr | coredump: i've sent the ad on the mailing list yesterday if you are interested |
| 16:18.47 | mindbendr | i said strictly no agencies on top yet an agency managed to get me (tony chapman is the guy) |
| 16:19.28 | mindbendr | i asked him to disclose where he got me from |
| 16:19.40 | mindbendr | he didn't tell as i only sent the ad on gllug list |
| 16:19.54 | mindbendr | so told him to bug off as i stated |
| 16:20.11 | dick_turpin | Probably from the archives or he is on the mailing list |
| 16:20.19 | mindbendr | yeah probably he is |
| 16:20.36 | dick_turpin | Most agencies are, its another way of head hunting |
| 16:20.55 | mindbendr | i'm not against the agencies but when you state no agencies |
| 16:21.11 | coredump | I will subscribe to the list and check the archives for your ad mindbendr |
| 16:21.32 | mindbendr | coredump: where are you based |
| 16:21.36 | coredump | I guess its not a problem to subscribe to the list while not being strictly from london :) |
| 16:21.43 | coredump | erm... south america :) |
| 16:22.00 | mindbendr | coredump: so you need a work permit? |
| 16:22.13 | coredump | brazilian, to be exact |
| 16:22.14 | dick_turpin | Yeah but look at it from his point of view if you had of said "Go on then" he would have got one up on his competition who possibly had said "Best not bother, look, no agencies" |
| 16:22.18 | coredump | mindbendr, yes, unfortunately |
| 16:22.37 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: that wouldn't be fair on the other agencies who respected (assuming) to my statement |
| 16:22.52 | dick_turpin | Lifes not fair :-) |
| 16:22.59 | mindbendr | coredump: don't think that'd go down that way but send your cv anyway, i'll ask |
| 16:23.45 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: i've seen the guy on the internet everywhere and i appreciated his efforts (and told that in the email) yet principals :D |
| 16:24.03 | dick_turpin | mindbendr: Unfortunately there's no point sending you my CV |
| 16:24.13 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: sorry :) |
| 16:24.21 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: we offer good value |
| 16:24.55 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: even though i didn't state your nick, did i? or am i blind |
| 16:24.59 | dick_turpin | mindbendr: I don't have the skill set you require :'( |
| 16:25.19 | dick_turpin | mindbendr: Huh? |
| 16:26.10 | mindbendr | dick_turpin: when you said there's no point sending your cv, i thought i accidently stated your nick, apparently i didn't |
| 16:26.57 | dick_turpin | Oh, no. I was just saying. :-) |
| 16:27.44 | coredump | anyway, just saw the video stream for Igor Sysoev talk about nginx on FISL |
| 16:27.46 | dick_turpin | Home time byze! |
| 16:27.59 | coredump | the guy is smart |
| 16:39.28 | AndyMillar | mindbendr: is yours the one in uxbridge? |
| 16:39.34 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: yes |
| 16:39.49 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: specifcally, westdrayton |
| 16:39.59 | mindbendr | if i could only spell |
| 16:40.23 | AndyMillar | is hireing too - list mail is going out in the next couple of days :) |
| 16:42.48 | mindbendr | ah |
| 16:42.54 | mindbendr | senior? |
| 16:44.06 | AndyMillar | nah, junior one :) |
| 16:44.20 | hali | tape monkey ftw |
| 16:44.34 | coredump | lol |
| 16:44.44 | AndyMillar | hali: we're not that bad :) |
| 16:44.52 | coredump | providing I don't starve, I am open to tape monkey-ism! |
| 16:45.47 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: what kinda salary? |
| 16:46.05 | AndyMillar | mindbendr: we're after someone with windows and linux knowledge on desktops, and linux servers :) |
| 16:46.10 | AndyMillar | same as yours |
| 16:47.23 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: i'm just trying to understand if 30-35K is a junior salary as discussed in the channel a few days ago along with the CVs i've been getting |
| 16:47.46 | AndyMillar | mindbendr: are you getting junior type CVs? |
| 16:48.02 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: from the intruding agency, yes |
| 16:48.41 | AndyMillar | you after a senior position? |
| 16:48.54 | coredump | ok, I got you all dont like getting stuff from agencies so I will not send cvs agencies :) |
| 16:49.04 | coredump | * to agencies |
| 16:49.09 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: no but experienced sysadmin not a newbie linux user |
| 16:49.15 | hali | depends on the company, most companies don't really need "senior"... a junior can easily run a lamp stack |
| 16:49.26 | mindbendr | coredump: you should send :) |
| 16:49.32 | hali | and in that company the lamp junior is called senior |
| 16:49.55 | hali | senior "senior" to me should include more enterprise grade systems |
| 16:50.03 | hali | larger scale stuff |
| 16:50.37 | coredump777 | senior/junior are usually about experience, but sometimes it makes no sense |
| 16:51.21 | hali | and senior needs fair bit of networking skills too, like "real" routing |
| 16:51.23 | mindbendr | hali: as long as they don't fsck an online FS |
| 16:51.28 | hali | bgp/ospf/eigrp etc blah |
| 16:51.32 | mindbendr | hali: which happened with the guy we sacked |
| 16:51.40 | hali | i do that |
| 16:51.42 | AndyMillar | mindbendr: you're probably 10-15k short of what you want |
| 16:51.43 | hali | on zfs though :P |
| 16:51.54 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: seems i don't earn much lol |
| 16:52.38 | AndyMillar | mindbendr: it's why I hate when you see new people getting hired (and in this case I get that fun)... and realise that when you joined you were far too cheap :-p |
| 16:53.59 | mindbendr | AndyMillar: definitely, i'm not gonna employ someone with my bloody cheap 1 year ago salary |
| 16:54.08 | coredump777 | <- cheap |
| 16:54.32 | coredump777 | brb |
| 16:54.42 | AndyMillar | cheap is not necessarily good |
| 16:55.59 | hali | it gets hairy when you ask for skills like Oracle, Jboss, Weblogic, Netbackup, Netapp, EMC, netscaper, bigip bla bla.. |
| 16:56.06 | hali | a lot of buzzword surfers |
| 16:56.39 | hali | who knows how to install weblogic or something like that but lacks the basics on linux sysadmin when it comes down to a production issue |
| 17:00.41 | mindbendr | hali: all they can be learnt if necessary, just want a person who doesn't do harm on the live systems |
| 17:00.53 | mindbendr | hali: and me spent a day fixing his wreckage |
| 17:03.02 | boudiccas | is this job going to eb advertised on the gllug main mailing list? |
| 17:03.51 | AndyMillar | boudiccas: which one? |
| 17:03.54 | AndyMillar | (and yes) |
| 17:04.09 | boudiccas | thers more than one? oh good |
| 17:04.40 | mindbendr | boudiccas: i've sent one yesterday and AndyMillar is gonna send one soon apparently :) |
| 17:04.47 | mindbendr | lucky people |
| 17:04.49 | boudiccas | oh goodie :) |
| 17:04.56 | mindbendr | you get to have more than 1 ad |
| 17:05.11 | mindbendr | boudiccas: thought you were a nurse though |
| 17:05.13 | mindbendr | lol |
| 17:05.47 | mindbendr | we don't like syringes in the server hardware |
| 17:06.18 | boudiccas | mindbendr, i'm a retired nurse now looking to change my career |
| 17:07.24 | mindbendr | boudiccas: ah, good for you. sysadmin is brilliant, you rot in front of the screen and all that |
| 17:08.24 | boudiccas | sounds like i do now, sit all day in front of the screen and just dawdle :) |
| 17:09.00 | mindbendr | :D |
| 17:11.46 | AndyMillar | ah, no dawdling here :) |
| 17:13.41 | coredump777 | sysadmins > all |
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