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| 08:36.15 | mindbender | morning |
| 08:38.04 | boudiccas | mindbender, correct, well spotted that man! |
| 08:40.12 | Leeds | depends on your frame of reference |
| 08:40.52 | boudiccas | Leeds, we're using BST not HKT |
| 08:41.01 | Leeds | speak for yourself! |
| 08:41.05 | boudiccas | :) |
| 08:41.05 | Leeds | oh, wait, you did |
| 08:41.12 | mindbender | boudiccas: it's expected, isn't it? |
| 08:41.29 | mindbender | boudiccas: i should have known better. |
| 08:41.30 | boudiccas | yes, it occurs every twentyfour hours |
| 08:42.14 | mindbender | so it's only morning once in a twentyfour hours. |
| 08:42.41 | bilarh | mindbendr: correct, well spotted that man! :) |
| 08:42.57 | mindbender | goes to the server room to see if it's morning there. |
| 08:51.52 | Leeds | erm... it's morning an infinite number of times in any 24 hour period |
| 08:52.23 | mindbender | Leeds: did you learn that at school |
| 08:53.19 | Leeds | no, on a quiz show |
| 08:53.20 | bilarh | leeds: no it isn't |
| 08:54.10 | bilarh | leeds: please explain yourself :P |
| 08:54.34 | Leeds | I don't have to explain myself to you :P |
| 08:54.45 | bilarh | but, I AM YOUR DAD! |
| 08:55.36 | Leeds | I'm *reasonably* sure you're not my dad |
| 08:57.15 | mindbender | everybody needs a dna kit nowadays. |
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| 11:49.40 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 11:52.12 | bilarh | afternoon |
| 11:52.44 | dick_turpin | bilarh: olaha |
| 11:55.16 | dick_turpin | Discordian: I've asked about a ticket for you, apparently they have not been released yet so we have to hang fire for a few days I think he said the 12th |
| 12:07.42 | dick_turpin | Oh god here we go |
| 12:09.00 | dick_turpin | "Hello, the lady yesterday has stuck the tapes in the brain under the stairs but she has put 2/2 in the top and 1/2 in the bottom" |
| 12:09.08 | dick_turpin | Brain? Please shoot me |
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| 12:20.37 | zplinux | if [ grep -v -q "LINE" /path/file ] ;then echo "LINE" >> /patch/file ;fi |
| 12:21.12 | bilarh | oh, -q :D |
| 12:21.19 | bilarh | i've always used >/dev/null |
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| 14:06.26 | hali | netapp are outdoing themselves today, had a failed drive in a filer.. 18 mins to disk delivery! |
| 14:06.47 | z00dax | thats quick |
| 14:07.16 | z00dax | was their 'reserve' stock already inside the DC ? |
| 14:07.19 | hali | it's 'only' on 4 hour respnonse but the bloke said they have a depo in wapping or something like that |
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| 14:41.47 | hali | z00dax: ever used keepalived or something similar? |
| 14:41.49 | hali | for basic IP failover |
| 14:41.58 | hali | im looking to get something cheap for smtp relay etc failover |
| 14:42.16 | wethrin | I have a cheaper solution |
| 14:42.20 | wethrin | have more than one MX record |
| 14:44.22 | bilarh | why not just use heartbeat? |
| 14:44.30 | antiphase | No point doing anything complicated |
| 14:44.31 | bilarh | free and easy to set up |
| 14:46.08 | bilarh | although it gets sucky if you use lvs. |
| 14:47.34 | hali | wethrin: this is for my outgoing stuff |
| 14:47.52 | wethrin | is your mail server that unreliable? |
| 14:48.03 | hali | can you guarantee anything having 100% uptime? :) |
| 14:48.50 | hali | assuming stuff stays up just because it's a "expensive server" is a bit silly |
| 14:49.12 | hali | and if i can add a free software layer with just an ip failing over that's worth doing |
| 14:49.22 | hali | heartbeat is ok |
| 14:49.32 | wethrin | No, you can't. How reliable's your internet connection? |
| 14:49.36 | wethrin | Is it more reliable than your mail server? |
| 14:49.40 | j0nr | hey all |
| 14:50.07 | hali | wethrin: our internet connetion in this site BGP peers with 5 tier1 ISP's :-) |
| 14:50.12 | wethrin | right |
| 14:50.13 | wethrin | :) |
| 14:50.14 | hali | using 7606 routers |
| 14:50.17 | j0nr | I ran an rsync command as 'user1'. then I repeated the same command as root. It seems to be overwriting everything, rather than updating, why would this be? |
| 14:50.25 | hali | anyway, it's free so why not add the 'fancy' failover layer |
| 14:50.37 | wethrin | That's a lot of routers... |
| 14:50.47 | hali | only two routers, but 3+2 ports |
| 14:53.33 | bilarh | j0nr: chown -R? |
| 15:03.48 | z00dax | hali: not used keepalived itself, but I've used heartbeat/pacemaker |
| 15:15.08 | antiphase | You'd have to be insane to use something like that with mail, which has its own systems to cope with intermittent links |
| 15:19.29 | hali | i have a hord of windows developer trying to send emails without a real concept of queueing |
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| 18:15.16 | ChoHag | First day of work: shit. |
| 18:15.50 | wethrin | weren't you working some weeks ago? |
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