IRC log for #gllug on 20101028

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08:40.35ChoHagIf you try to enroll someone in your custody in school, day care or an overnight program you will be required to provide documentation that they are up to date on all their important vaccines, but only if they are a dog.
08:41.53Leedswoof?
08:44.49ChoHagBut wait! Science is hard and that's unfair. Who has the time, the background or the ability to understand the fundamentals of immunology?
08:50.33Leedsyou must all go immediately and vote for my mum in the 2010 Leeds Jewish Community Pride awards... http://www.ljwbprideawards.co.uk/profile.asp?profileID=10
09:39.07ChoHagSo when I stumbled across a book with the title "JavaScript: The Good Parts", I thought I'd take a look.
09:39.15ChoHagIt is, as you'd imagine, a very slim volume.
10:49.02ChoHagsighs
10:49.07ChoHagDell have agreed to replace the blades we know as www134 and www144.
10:49.08ChoHagWe can't let them take blades with any code, logs or other data - so can you please format them and
10:49.11ChoHagensure they are completely wiped.
10:49.42jpdsSurely all your data is on a SAN?
10:51.57ChoHagHahahaha
10:52.00ChoHagha
10:57.37ChoHagBoth servers are, naturally, still running their Apaches.
10:58.09ChoHagYes Apaches. 10 on one and 7 on the other.
10:58.11jpdsWhy don't you have a naming scheme rather than dull names?
10:58.18jpdsEw.
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10:58.52ChoHagI plan to migrate them to an extremely dull naming scheme eventually.
10:59.15ChoHagbox-\d+.tld
10:59.32ChoHagWhere tld is one word with no dots.
10:59.49ChoHagI haven't hit them with that one yet though.
11:00.17ChoHag"Both these servers are running a number of Apache instances. What is the ID of the job to take them out of commission?"
11:00.30ChoHagI don't even know why I'm asking because you can be sure there isn't one.
11:26.26Leedstax time!
11:28.41Leedsno PAYE here, you submit your tax return by August-ish, get a tax bill a few months later
11:29.44Leedsmy bill for this year is almost exactly the same as my monthly income - or to put it another way, effective tax rate: 8.3%! :D
11:32.42Leedsalso, I do like the fact that they show their working on the back of the bill - total income minus allowances, calculated according to the flat rate and the sliding rate, so you can see what you'd pay under each
11:35.59ChoHagOther new guy> I need to install foo on a live server and it doesn't have outgoing internet access.
11:36.04ChoHagOur boss> Just use the proxy.
11:36.55ChoHagI'm not even sure if this place is worth salvaging.
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11:41.52dick_turpinAfternoon all
11:42.14bilarhleeds: i hate you
11:42.41bilarhdick_turpin: do some leeds bashing for us, will you?
11:42.50Leedsbilarh: there are some positive things about the whole emigrating malarky, you know
11:42.56bilarhi know
11:43.03bilarhi brought my effective tax rate down somewhat myself
11:43.13bilarhfrom about 85% to a more manageable 60%
11:44.05dick_turpinI hate ASDA who's self service machine I have just left £5.00 in because it was stupidly busy and I rushed to get out
11:44.35yaMattthey do try pretty hard to remind you because people always leave their notes in there
11:44.53antiphaseASDA whois sounds like an internet service
11:45.08Leeds(of course, I'm not taking into account things like the lack of VAT)
11:45.37yaMattbut price of housing must be much more
11:46.47LeedsI pay less (about 10% less, but still) to rent my place in Hong Kong than my place in London is renting out for - and they are broadly equivalent 2-bedroom flats
11:46.54dick_turpinbilarh: Are we bashing foreigners again?
11:47.32ChoHagLooks to me more like foreigners bashing us.
11:47.49LeedsI'm not a foreigner, just a non-dom :)
11:47.59ChoHagClose enough.
11:48.09bilarhi'm european so i'm not a foreigner either :P
11:48.24ChoHagI may und up being the same eventually. SWMBO is from Ukraine and it's rather nice there.
11:48.59dick_turpinbilarh: You foreign git
11:49.05ChoHagOnly 3 hours from Kiev to London (but about 12 hours from her city to Kiev)
11:52.26bilarhukraine
11:52.32bilarhnever even considered it
11:52.35bilarhisn't it run by the mafia
11:52.40bilarh?
11:52.51bilarhof the type that will make you disappear rather than just stealing your pension?
11:53.52dick_turpinbilarh: I cant wait to discuss this new idea of work having to provide a pension, the gaffers here will have an apoplectic fit
11:54.39bilarhhasn't that been the case for ages?
11:55.29ChoHagNo that's the government.
11:57.11haliwe have a large outsourcing outfit in the ukraine, mostly in kharkiv
11:57.21halipretty ok, a lot better than most Indian companies
11:59.39ChoHagActually I've not paid much attention to Ukraine's politics. Obviously I'd do that before moving.
12:00.04antiphaseProbably full of vodka swillers with fur hats
12:00.05ChoHagThe country's nice and the people are mostly nice, unless you see them at work in eg. a shop or ticket office.
12:08.28gregjwhat does it mean if someone just called me 'snagless' ?
12:08.47gregjcos for the love of god, I have no idea what does it mean
12:09.32dick_turpinHm it could mean you're pretty straight forward, never any snags
12:09.52dick_turpinBut you hang around here so that cant be true
12:10.26gregj:=]
12:11.16gregjsnagless is something I've heard in relation to cables
12:11.23gregjbut thought it is more of a technical term
12:12.01gregjthe guy who said that is not a technical guy at all. Altho he is a pilot, so there is some techical knowledge required, but not CAT5 cabling
12:12.20dick_turpinAhahaha if I had any shame I'd feel a dufus now but then I look at bilarh's photo and revel in the knowledge there are worse cases than me
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