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| 08:18.10 | ChoHag | sighs |
| 08:18.18 | ChoHag | "I don't think we need to test |
| 08:18.18 | ChoHag | 301 redirects on UAT first. It's ok to push these live." |
| 08:20.03 | ChoHag | Also deprioritising a ticket because it's old is just magic. |
| 09:26.21 | hali | morning |
| 09:30.29 | ChoHag | Morning. |
| 09:31.19 | jpds | Anything new? |
| 09:32.23 | ChoHag | It's Friday. |
| 09:32.27 | hali | not much, i found the source of steve jobs inspiration though, after using suse "yast2" for about 10 minutes i can see why he wants to create the simple and sleak software they do at apple |
| 09:33.06 | bilarh | as in yast2 is horrible or simply brilliant? :P |
| 09:33.11 | bilarh | i'm in the former camp |
| 09:33.15 | bilarh | from memory |
| 09:34.07 | hali | just getting a system registered with novell's update server took a good 10 minutes |
| 09:34.54 | ChoHag | Novell are funny. |
| 09:35.13 | ChoHag | They're one of these companies that never do anything right but just Will Not Die. |
| 09:36.26 | hali | suse is probably a decent linux once one gets used to it, most of the yast tasks can probably be done in scripts etc |
| 09:36.33 | hali | it's fairly big in the banking industry |
| 09:36.33 | ChoHag | I think people remember that they did good things in the 80s and 90s and can't believe that they're now pure diarrheatic shit. |
| 09:36.53 | ChoHag | You mean suse is decent when you take away everything that differentiates it from the other Linuxen? |
| 09:37.19 | bilarh | to be honest they're all pretty much the same nowadays, aren't they? |
| 09:37.26 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 09:37.36 | bilarh | minus the crap that is on top |
| 09:37.46 | bilarh | which you can side step anyway |
| 09:37.54 | bilarh | every linux distribution has vi :) |
| 09:38.13 | ChoHag | They always were. They only remain different in trivial areas in order to wave their dicks at each other while ensuring that this year is not the year of Linux on the desktop. |
| 09:38.40 | bilarh | true |
| 09:38.52 | bilarh | although i don't like ubuntu as such as an admin |
| 09:38.55 | bilarh | i can never find anything in it |
| 09:39.03 | bilarh | but it's pure awesomeness on my desktop |
| 09:39.08 | ChoHag | heh. |
| 09:39.08 | ChoHag | pure. |
| 09:39.16 | ChoHag | It's superficially awesome at best. |
| 09:39.28 | bilarh | it's brilliant |
| 09:40.08 | ChoHag | pfft. |
| 09:40.39 | ChoHag | Every time I've used it it's fucked up in a newly weird and wonderful way. |
| 09:40.55 | bilarh | pebkac, not with ubuntu |
| 09:41.14 | bilarh | you seem to have a knack to break everything, perhaps you should be a software tester |
| 09:42.57 | ChoHag | Oh for fuck's sake. This is exactly the sort of shit I'm talking about with Linux. |
| 09:43.09 | ChoHag | virt-manager: Waa! Can't find dbus. |
| 09:43.19 | ChoHag | virt-manager --no-dbus: Waa! Can't find dbus. |
| 09:43.23 | hali | probably because you switch it off? |
| 09:43.45 | ChoHag | What the fuck do you not understand about 'no'?? |
| 09:43.57 | ChoHag | Also, why has dbus disappeared from /tmp? It's running. |
| 09:44.02 | ChoHag | Shit. Pure shit. |
| 09:44.52 | bilarh | "D-Bus helps coordinate process lifecycle; it makes it simple and reliable to code a "single instance" application or daemon, and to launch applications and daemons on demand when their services are needed. " |
| 09:45.34 | ChoHag | Oh it's reliable. |
| 09:45.37 | bilarh | :D |
| 09:45.59 | ChoHag | Well it must not be running because of a pebkac. Clearly it is me that's mistaken. |
| 09:46.39 | ChoHag | I really don't want to restart my X session... |
| 09:46.47 | bilarh | well, nobody else seems to have these huge issues |
| 09:46.56 | bilarh | perhaps we're just blissfully unaware |
| 09:47.46 | ChoHag | I expect you'll find that people do have these issues and rather than saying anything about it just think 'Fuck this. I'll use a mac.' |
| 10:38.57 | antiphase | OS X is fine unless you want to get any work done |
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| 11:43.58 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 12:07.24 | dick_turpin | bilarh: Free sex and money |
| 12:13.09 | gregj | http://fun.noshit.pl/lubie/47682 |
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| 12:30.50 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Just heard a colleague tell someone "Yeah the Internet is slow because everyone is trying to buy 'Take That' tickets" Bwahahahaha |
| 12:39.09 | Leeds | so that small tax bill I got yesterday... |
| 12:40.42 | Leeds | got two more letters from them today |
| 13:02.13 | Leeds | one letter saying that since I hadn't reported any salary for the year, I owe $0 in salaries tax - that being because I reported company income as a sole trader rather than salary |
| 13:03.10 | Leeds | the other saying that since I wasn't reporting salary anymore, I could have back the provisional salaries tax I'd prepaid for this year - a refund which covers almost 60% of my tax bill for this year |
| 13:04.16 | Leeds | taking my actual tax bill for this year down to 3.7% from the astronomic 8.3% it had been at |
| 13:14.44 | dick_turpin | I'm wondering if its worth doing like the head of Next (I think its Next) does and not taking a salary but get paid in Dividends, apparently they are tax free |
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| 13:19.42 | gregj | my dear, weather is lethal here Today in Belfast |
| 13:19.50 | gregj | streams running down the street literally |
| 13:32.18 | bilarh | dick_turpin: the problem with being paid in dividends is that you have to pay the same dividend to all shares |
| 13:32.37 | bilarh | so unless you own a significant number of shares in the company you work for it seems unlikely to be profitable |
| 13:32.55 | bilarh | and you still pay 12% tax on dividends, i think |
| 13:55.15 | dick_turpin | bilarh: There was a program on the other day showing how all the top earners avoid paying any or very little tax |
| 13:55.47 | dick_turpin | This guy moved everything over to his misses who lives in Monaco yet he lives here |
| 13:56.08 | bilarh | ah |
| 13:56.24 | bilarh | have you got an iplayer link? i need to learn how to do that with my new job :P |
| 14:01.05 | dick_turpin | http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-72/episode-1 |
| 14:03.59 | bilarh | oh i was only joking, but thanks anyway :D |
| 14:04.03 | bilarh | runs and hides |
| 14:04.58 | dick_turpin | I wasn't you stinking rich come over here steal our jobs and houses bastard |
| 14:05.49 | bilarh | you're much happier on benefits anyway, don't know what you're complaining about :P |
| 14:07.16 | dick_turpin | My brother is, scrounging hypochondriac |
| 14:10.34 | bilarh | and why not, i ask you |
| 14:10.39 | bilarh | the thing is |
| 14:10.53 | bilarh | you have to be making a pretty good wage to actually be better off working than on benefits |
| 14:11.28 | bilarh | so i can totally understand someone on benefits being offered a minimum wage job and turning it down |
| 14:14.37 | dick_turpin | He keeps four beautiful Huskies the one has qualified to compete in Crufts, They must cost a fortune to keep? He owns a car has Sky and lives in a council house he's been on long term sick for nearly two years |
| 14:17.26 | bilarh | see that's what i mean :D |
| 14:22.17 | dick_turpin | Oh thats nothing he deliberately had his flat repossessed so he could get a council house |
| 14:24.39 | bilarh | wtf |
| 14:31.40 | dick_turpin | He hasn't really worked for about six years now |
| 14:32.05 | bilarh | so who's the fool? |
| 14:32.09 | bilarh | him or us who go to work? |
| 14:35.07 | dick_turpin | I wouldn't say he is rolling in it but they're not starving either |
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