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| 04:50.08 | Leeds | I know nobody is awake, but I'll leave this for possible later answers... anyone got any thoughts on FOSDEM? |
| 07:15.43 | Cope | i will be there |
| 07:15.46 | Cope | as will helena |
| 07:15.48 | Cope | prolly |
| 07:16.12 | Cope | where prolly mean as long as it doesn't clash with something else like half term |
| 07:16.37 | Cope | 5-6 feb |
| 07:16.50 | Cope | yeah that doesn't look like it clashes |
| 07:17.02 | Cope | i'd say 99% certain we'll be there |
| 08:10.20 | Leeds | can't say with any likelihood, but I came up with a possible CNY itinerary this morning which happens to put me in Brussels on the weekend of FOSDEM ;) |
| 08:10.39 | Leeds | as well as a few days in London, a few days in Amsterdam, and 1/2 a day in Helsinki on the way |
| 08:16.46 | bilarh | helsinki is nice usually |
| 08:16.53 | bilarh | but not sure what it's like in autumn if it rains :S |
| 08:18.40 | Leeds | february? |
| 08:18.49 | Leeds | strange definition of autumn you've got there :P |
| 08:22.44 | bilarh | oh sorry feb :D |
| 08:22.48 | bilarh | winter should be awesome :D |
| 08:23.38 | Leeds | yeah :) |
| 08:24.55 | Leeds | wouldn't even say it's likely yet, but we've had successful transit stopovers in Paris and Singapore (last year on the way to Spain, this year on the way back from New Zealand, respectively), and Helsinki would fit well |
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| 08:43.50 | wethrin | I won't be at FOSDEM this year :( - got a concert on the Saturday night |
| 08:45.05 | Leeds | would you be anywhere near London in the following week? |
| 09:06.18 | wethrin | Sadly not |
| 09:06.32 | wethrin | well, no plans as of yet |
| 09:06.55 | wethrin | are you likely to be around the weekends after Fosdem? |
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| 09:15.57 | morsing | mikejw! |
| 09:17.13 | mikejw | hey buddy |
| 09:17.18 | mikejw | how are you? |
| 09:17.35 | morsing | Great :) |
| 09:17.44 | mikejw | good stuff |
| 09:18.27 | Leeds | frankly, I'm likely to be somewhere in Asia - but the unlikely potential itinerary, as I said, is Hong Kong -> Helsinki -> Amsterdam -> Brussels&FOSDEM -> London -> Hong Kong |
| 09:18.37 | morsing | mikejw: How are you? |
| 09:18.57 | morsing | Leeds: There's no-way you can avoid London? |
| 09:19.44 | wethrin | ahhh, pity |
| 09:20.36 | mikejw | morsing: not bad thanks |
| 09:20.51 | mikejw | hey Leeds, wethrin :) |
| 09:20.59 | Leeds | the gf is desperate to go to London, and she does have a bit of a point that we've been together 3 years and I haven't taken to the UK yet |
| 09:21.19 | morsing | Leeds: you haven't warned her sufficienlty? |
| 09:21.20 | wethrin | hey mikejw |
| 09:21.46 | morsing | sufficiently. Also, London != UK. There are some nice places in England, London is NOT one of them |
| 09:21.47 | Leeds | (only France, Spain, Morocco, New Zealand, Singapore, Thailand, China, Malaysia, Macau...) |
| 09:39.31 | Alex | "trolly trolly troll troll" |
| 09:39.57 | Alex | morsing: Try again. Central London != London, there are some nice places in London, <insert crap bit here> is not one of them. |
| 09:40.01 | ChoHag | Depends what you mean by nice. |
| 09:40.28 | Alex | morsing: The bit of London wot I live is fantastic, but I've lived in bits which make me sad to call it civilisation. You can't judge the entire cit{ies,y} by one area. |
| 09:55.43 | antiphase | FAntastic? Does that mean it only actually exists in your fantasy world, and it's actually Holloway? |
| 09:55.51 | morsing | London is disgusting |
| 09:59.44 | ChoHag | Do you not like London? |
| 10:00.41 | morsing | No, of course not. I have standards |
| 10:00.54 | ChoHag | Do you not like being associated with London? |
| 10:02.49 | morsing | No thanks |
| 10:02.58 | ChoHag | Then why are you? |
| 10:03.09 | morsing | Because I love you |
| 10:04.05 | ChoHag | Thankyou. |
| 10:04.10 | ChoHag | Where's my birthday present? |
| 10:05.39 | wethrin | dick_turpin's got it |
| 10:05.49 | wethrin | he'll sell it to you for a "fair" price |
| 10:46.40 | Alex | antiphase: quite :) |
| 10:47.27 | bilarh | i think it depends on "where you are in your life" |
| 10:47.39 | bilarh | i'm at the phase where i want a garage more than a pub :) |
| 10:47.43 | Alex | fair point, yeah. |
| 10:47.45 | bilarh | hence i'm out in the 'burbs |
| 10:47.52 | wethrin | surbiton? |
| 10:47.56 | bilarh | i used to live in camden when i was 21 and that was a fucking riot |
| 10:48.04 | bilarh | wethrin: petts wood |
| 10:48.08 | bilarh | wethrin: i.e. bromley |
| 10:48.22 | Alex | I live in Primrose Hill, above an old retired folk singer and an architect. They give us jam. We're 5 mins walk from The Roundhouse, and I most definitely do not have a garage. |
| 10:48.24 | wethrin | You cockney, you |
| 10:48.27 | bilarh | or well, actually it's probably more orpington, but i'll stick to bromley because that sounds posher :) |
| 10:48.41 | bilarh | alex: primrose hill you posh git :D |
| 10:48.53 | bilarh | primrose hill is really nice, though.. one of my old bosses used to live there |
| 10:49.08 | ChoHag | <Boss> The problem with QA [which I think is 2 people, possibly 1] is that they test what we tell them to test. |
| 10:49.18 | ChoHag | I shit you not. That is a direct quote. |
| 10:49.30 | bilarh | chohag: that is a real problem in QA |
| 10:49.36 | ChoHag | Except for the [...] obviously. |
| 10:49.36 | Alex | bilarh: Sold my kidney, yeah. As you say though - no garage/etc :) |
| 10:50.50 | bilarh | chohag: how are you ever going to find bugs you don't know about if the QA people only do exactly what the developers tell them? |
| 10:51.10 | bilarh | chohag: the developers would already know about the bugs the QA people found then, wouldn't they? |
| 10:51.29 | bilarh | I'm warming to your boss, perhaps he isn't so stupid after all :P |
| 11:04.50 | wethrin | Gah, fuck off BMC fucking Remedy |
| 11:04.55 | wethrin | what a steaming pile of shite software |
| 11:06.13 | morsing | Remedy is made by BMC... |
| 11:06.34 | morsing | Many companies use it poorly implemented |
| 11:06.44 | morsing | That being said . .. It's made by BMC |
| 11:07.13 | wethrin | Yes. It's a steaming pile of shite |
| 11:07.44 | wethrin | poorly implemented doesn't really help here either :) |
| 11:10.12 | bilarh | wethrin: please don't swear... Remedy made my eyes bleed on occasion :S |
| 11:11.49 | wethrin | sorry! |
| 11:12.12 | bilarh | i'm going to have to see a shrink now :( |
| 11:13.01 | wethrin | please submit a work info item for that |
| 11:30.44 | morsing | http://www.zhuzh.com/ |
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| 11:36.47 | ChoHag | "Please patch this script to fix a caching issue on a client's site" |
| 11:37.01 | ChoHag | uhh but that site doesn't use caching. The issue is elsewhere. |
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| 12:02.16 | morsing | mohan! |
| 12:25.18 | ChoHag | How does apache attempt to determine the server's fully qualified domain name? |
| 12:25.41 | ChoHag | It frequently complains that it's unable to do so, and that ServerName should be set, but what is it actually failing at? |
| 12:29.12 | wethrin | It's failing at reading ServerName from the httpd.conf file |
| 12:29.22 | wethrin | or from the appropriate vhost |
| 12:29.45 | wethrin | Presumably it'd be trying to determine a server name from a host lookup |
| 12:36.23 | morsing | wethrin: What's for lunch? |
| 12:36.41 | ChoHag | Curry. |
| 12:36.49 | wethrin | I think I'll have a panini |
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| 13:21.49 | dick_turpin | â The Ace of spades, the Ace of spades ⣠|
| 13:22.25 | wethrin | hello dick_turpin |
| 13:52.24 | kjs | Anyone see that BBC Horizon episode on astroids? The guy was using CentOS ;) |
| 13:53.04 | dick_turpin | Nice |
| 16:05.40 | ChoHag | Can vi replace some text (eg. a word) with what's in the yank buffer? |
| 16:12.09 | antiphase | http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Replace_a_word_with_yanked_text suggests it's a arcane, stupid and unmemorable as usual |
| 16:16.31 | ChoHag | Yeah that didn't work. |
| 16:17.24 | ChoHag | v isn't a vi command |
| 16:17.34 | ChoHag | Must be a vimism. |
| 16:17.47 | antiphase | Anyone still using vi is a cock |
| 16:18.10 | morsing | antiphase: But you're an idiot... |
| 16:18.37 | antiphase | Better than being a cunt |
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| 17:07.09 | mikejw | happy fireworks night |
| 17:07.46 | ChoHag | Tramp is used by emacs to open files on remote servers. You used to be able (apparently) to hop from host to host with a syntax like /multi:<host1>:<host2>... |
| 17:08.14 | ChoHag | Apparently that was too logical or something because now you have to set a proxy variable. |
| 17:12.45 | mikejw | hmm |