IRC log for #gllug on 20101119

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06:44.09morsingLeeds!
06:44.14morsingboudiccas!
06:44.17morsingsabinef72!
07:11.28sabinef72hi morsing
07:11.31sabinef72how are you ?
07:20.23morsingI'm good! Waiting to hear how my interview went. How are you?
07:21.49sabinef72nice hope everything will be ok for you
07:22.07sabinef72I'm ok, waiting to prepar Julie for school
07:22.50morsing:)
07:23.26morsingHaha - I forgot about you French and your even more ridiculous school starting age than the Brits! :)
10:18.26morsingIs the LaTeX book from 1994 really still the best seller and one to go for for a beginner?
10:19.03cbzare you writing an academic paper?
10:19.26morsingNo
10:20.25wethrinWhich LaTeX book?
10:20.37morsingMy father-in-law writes articles for mathematical journals. He's been writing in Works so far, with them bitching at him and translating into LaTeX, so want to get him a book to get started for Christmas.
10:20.44morsingwethrin: *The* LaTeX book
10:20.49wethrinThe Lamport one?
10:20.50wethrinIt's crap
10:20.51morsingYes
10:21.15morsingIt's certainly not crap, just surprised after 17 years it's the top hit on Amazon
10:21.25wethrinThe LaTeX Companion (2nd ed.) is good; but it's more a reference book than a tutorial
10:22.19wethrinI found the Lamport book to be overpriced for what it gives you, and I've found it never really told me anything I wanted to know
10:23.22morsingMany people have learnt LaTeX from that book, including me and my dad. It's a good book to get started on, which is what I'm after. Have you got a suggestion for a *similar* book?
10:24.41wethrinI don't remember what I used to get started with LaTeX
10:25.02morsingwethrin: Is the LaTeX companion the dog book?
10:25.15wethrinNo
10:25.24wethrinIt's by Mittelbach and Goossens
10:25.40wethrinI think you're thinking of the LaTeX Graphics Companion
10:28.36morsingThe LaTeX Companion is known as the dog book
10:28.56morsinghttp://www.kronto.org/thesis/tips/goossens-book.jpg
10:29.06wethrinah, don't get that. It's the 1st ed.
10:29.10wethrinYou want the 2nd edition
10:29.18wethrin(or later, if such a thing exists)
10:31.00morsingwethrin: I was demonstrating the photo on the front page
10:49.50ChoHag$complaint
11:04.48z00daxLaTeX is one of those things thats always on the To-Learn-Properly-One-Day list, but never makes it to the top
11:05.05z00dax( for me )
11:07.05wethrinDefine Properly?
11:07.17wethrinthere's too much to learn fully. You just learn what you need to get the job done
11:07.49morsingLaTeX is quite easy to get started slowly on
11:10.06antiphaseIf you're pissing around marking things up by hand, you've got too much spare time
11:24.40z00daxwethrin: yeah, my use for it has been fairly basic
11:30.52z00daxbtw, anyone want an old car ? its a '97 1.8 glx 5dr mondeo, runs well fairly clean
11:31.25morsingz00dax: How's that "old"?
11:31.25z00daxits done 120k, 104 of that with me, and its been well looked after, regular serivces, mot's etc.
11:31.43z00daxmorsing: ok its not into the 'vintage' age
11:31.53z00daxerm 104 = 104k :)
11:33.17z00daxalso, battery thats less than 6 months old and tyres that have done less than 8k miles, cambelt changed at 100k
11:40.29cbzlatex is a little like forth in that respect
11:44.24ChoHagHooray! Unencrypted passwords littered around a multitude of $HOMEs on a multitude of servers.
11:57.47wethrinwe had that. We disabled accounts :)
11:58.37ChoHagThe account is 'postgres'.
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12:10.07dick_turpinAfternoon all
12:15.36wethrinaf'noon
12:16.09dick_turpinDoctor!
12:26.43wethrinturpin!
12:27.23dick_turpinMeh don't sound as good does it?
12:28.12dick_turpinPlus go and become a Professor so I can say "Hey prof ........"
12:31.36wethrinProfessorship, I don't know...
12:32.49dick_turpinGo on make a lowly peasant happy
12:49.27wethrinnah. It's time for a real job
12:52.49dick_turpinReal jobs are very over rated
12:54.21wethrintrue
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13:11.15morsingstu_!
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14:28.54ChoHagWhy does one of many RewriteRules work on one machine but not on another?
14:36.18morsingLeeds!
14:40.46ChoHagApache's global logs disappear into the void!
14:54.04*** part/#gllug dick_turpin (~dick_turp@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
15:01.08ChoHagAnswer: The apache configurations which include the rewrite config file are different.
15:01.27ChoHagIn fact differences abound.
15:01.39ChoHagAnd not (just) the ones that should.
17:03.16Leedsis temporarily mustachioed
17:03.31wethrinMovember, or just forgot to shave?
17:05.30Leedsformerly the latter, latterly the former
17:05.38wethrincunning
17:05.40wethrinright, I'm off home
17:05.41wethrinbye!
17:05.50Leedshappy weekend!
17:56.41ChoHaghttp://flowersdirectltd.live.venda.com is the FLOWERS DIRECT SITE
17:56.46ChoHaghttp://flowersdirect.live.venda.com is the FLOWER GRAM SITE
17:56.53ChoHagBut of course.
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