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| 08:21.59 | morsing | Leeds! |
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| 10:36.58 | ChoHag | <Kvik> all the servers must have local firewalls, says PCI. |
| 10:37.18 | morsing | ChoHag: PCI is a joke |
| 10:37.19 | ChoHag | As we're incompetent at running firewalls here, much hilarity is caused by this [incorrect] statement. |
| 10:37.23 | morsing | Also, PCI does *not* say that |
| 10:38.12 | ChoHag | Yeah I decided not to argue. |
| 10:38.50 | ChoHag | Their foot's been shot so much there's nothing left. |
| 10:40.26 | ChoHag | Of course it could actually be that the servers in question aren't on a protected network, which would not surprise me in the least. |
| 10:46.26 | morsing | Then they would fail PCI anyway |
| 10:47.06 | z00dax | the biggest problem with PCI is that there are hardly any PCI certification people around who know what they are doing, know what the PCI is about and can really do an audit |
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| 11:40.11 | hali | PCI/DSS is fairly useful if you *store* credit card details, it's mostly setting up guidelines and following them, not strict rules |
| 11:40.32 | wethrin | like ITIL... |
| 11:40.42 | hali | one annoying thing is that it recommends a full pentetration test after any system change |
| 11:40.47 | wethrin | but you need someone with a brain to set up and implement the system |
| 11:41.05 | wethrin | well, that depends what part of the system changes |
| 11:41.16 | morsing | hali: "Recommends". PCI is fairly flexible and look at "Risk" |
| 11:41.35 | hali | hence why i didn't say "requires" |
| 11:42.36 | hali | but most companies can probably skip PCI completly, if you really require it, you probably need FSA regulations, if you don't need FSA regulations it doesn't really matter |
| 11:44.09 | ChoHag | It gives you a nice little logo to put on your webpage though. |
| 11:44.32 | hali | you can use the "Powered by Apache" logo |
| 11:44.38 | hali | if all you need is a nice little logo |
| 11:45.06 | morsing | hali: The card issuers won't cover your loss if you're not compliant and you lose money by intruders |
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| 14:25.57 | Guest67393 | Oh blimey. Never mind, eh? I'm up and running - after alarums and excursions and am currently blissfully happy with PCLinuxOS looking after things. And TWO e-mail addresses! |
| 14:28.45 | Guest67393 | GLLUG's advice triggered an avalanche of good sense and increased my powers of argument - so much so I bludgeoned BT into changing things to my benefit. Yuperooney! |
| 14:30.27 | z00dax | we havent had this level of excitement in here since 1955 |
| 14:30.52 | Guest67393 | Anywhichways, i have to go - many thanks, GLLUGers - we'll talk again soon. |
| 14:31.03 | hali | okay |
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| 14:39.22 | dick_turpin | Afternoon all |
| 14:42.24 | morsing | dick_turpin: You're correct, for once |
| 14:43.06 | dick_turpin | Even a broken clock is correct once a day |
| 14:47.24 | ChoHag | Depends how it's broken. |
| 14:47.48 | dick_turpin | "To the left to the left" |
| 15:19.16 | ChoHag | Weee! Everything's going down while $contractor fucks about with the live cache servers. |
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