IRC log for #gllug on 20101202

00:54.50*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@n219079197107.netvigator.com)
03:30.22*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@www.scorefive.com)
08:23.09*** join/#gllug ChoHag (~mking@109-170-148-201.xdsl.murphx.net)
08:25.36ChoHagI have one of those entropy keys, and for whatever fucked up reason, udev won't create the symlinks to the device in /dev/entropykey
08:40.40ChoHag"Department for Transport restrictions
08:40.41ChoHagInk and toner cartridges weighing more than 500g will NOT be permitted as hand baggage on board our aircraft for all flights to or from the UK."
08:41.41Leedsif the terrorists are clever, they're already working on a plan which will result in anal examinations of every flyer
09:42.43*** join/#gllug stu_ (~stu@dyn1242-26.vpn.ic.ac.uk)
10:06.34bilarhmorning folks
10:08.50morsingbilarh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:09.50wethrinheyho
10:22.21bilarhim snowed in
10:23.55bilarhhas anyone used the NFS services in windows 2008r2?
10:31.10bilarhsomeone at work is really keen to use nfs server in 2008r2 to share out a cfs filesystem
10:31.24bilarhi'm just wondering what will happen to failover
10:32.35Leedsmy immediate hunch is: 'it will fail'
10:33.44bilarhmine too, but i guess we'll see what happens
10:33.50bilarhi've got it working in the test domain ok
10:33.58bilarhbut'that's not cfs
10:34.12bilarhmy main worry is that windows wont have the same fsid on both nfs shares
10:35.03bilarhthe windows nfs <-> ntfs mapping causes some interesting issues with regards to permissions
10:35.27bilarhbut as long as you keep the nfs shared directory "clean" and do not copy files in to it in windows it seems to work ok
10:35.38bilarhhowever having a unified home directory across both platforms is a no go
10:37.12bilarhwe're using ldap authentication also, against AD
10:37.17bilarhwhich surprisingly works really well
11:11.47*** join/#gllug Leeds (~richardc@n219079197107.netvigator.com)
11:52.04ChoHagThey didn't screw up ldap as much as some people like to claim.
11:52.11ChoHagThey did screw it up, just not that much.
11:56.46bilarhcertainly beats using NIS with all the head ache that entails
11:59.08wethrinWe use NIS here
12:00.40ChoHagwethrin: There's always one.
12:04.54bilarhyes i used to use nis too
12:04.59bilarhi mean in a way nis is nice
12:05.01bilarhbecause it's simple
12:05.10bilarhbut it also means you need to maintain accounts in two places
12:05.17bilarhassuming you've got a windows domain too
12:05.37bilarhwith AD with the unix attributes enabled, there's only one place
12:05.53bilarhi've even played with radius authentication for linux lately
12:06.17bilarhbut it sucks a bit, because you still end up having to have an ldap for account information, or end up having local accounts with the authentication done over radius
12:06.20bilarhwhich is kind of pointless
12:06.49bilarhon a separate note, it's so damn nice to have a new job where i get to play with stuff :D
12:19.34halistuff is the shit
12:19.50haliand netapp is the simple solution for cifs+nfs on the same box
12:45.19wethrinoh, we have special scripts that pull accounts of a database, then populate AD and NIS
12:49.22bilarhhali: i haven't got a netapp :)
12:49.36bilarhwethrin: ah ok
12:49.45wethringet a netapp
12:49.54bilarhwethrin: no you don't understand
12:50.00bilarhwethirn: i have no money for a netapp :)
12:51.13wethrinGet a cheap netapp
12:52.21ChoHagInterview went well. Shame it's for a cheap-arse newspaper.
12:52.27ChoHagAt least it's not Murdoch thouh.
12:53.46wethrinChoHag: Yet another job for a crappy employer?
12:53.53ChoHagYah probably.
12:54.07ChoHagMaybe the BBC one will come through.
12:54.08bilarhwhen will you learn?
12:54.17bilarhstop taking random jobs all the time :)
12:54.18ChoHagWhen they stop paying me?
12:54.21halifinancial services companies are the nuts to work for right now, there is so much opportunity to do cool stuff
12:54.29ChoHagMeh. I'm an Evil Contractor. It's what I do.
12:56.43haliso i need a new home router, should i lug an old cisco 3825 home or should i spend 50 quid on something sensible
12:57.20bilarhis the 3825 the one without the fan? :)
12:58.29halinah, is 3U and fairly noisy
12:58.51halii could try to get my boss to allow me to expense a smaller fan-less cisco
13:00.45bilarhmy five (?) year old netgear 834dg is still going strong
13:02.04bilarhi still think it's ridicilous that there are no trains
13:04.00morsingbilarh: But there were some snow on a field
13:05.31bilarhmy colleague put it as "snow flake on the wheel"
13:46.36haliyawn
13:46.56halitaking auditors around the datacenter, "do you have firewalls?"
13:50.22morsinghali: Did you point to the tape robot to see if they were clued up?
13:52.09halithey probably wouldn't even have looked up from their notes, just ticked the box
13:55.47ChoHag"do you have firewalls?" <point to xscreensaver fire hack>
13:56.05*** join/#gllug dick_turpin (~dick_turp@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com)
13:56.27dick_turpin♬ ♪ Good King Wenceslas looked out on the feast of Stephen when the snow lay round about deep and crisp and even ♫ ♩
14:12.51ChoHagadds Christmas music to his playlist
14:13.34dick_turpinIt was more the snow reference really
14:14.13ChoHagWell it is December.
14:14.33ChoHagAnd it may be the closest I get to a white Christmas.
14:14.57dick_turpinThere is no snow really its all a Nigerian email scam!
14:24.48ChoHag14:23 < tony> amusingly they have snow clearing trains that can't move due to the snow
14:26.42dick_turpinLeaves on the line was always my favourite
14:47.31*** join/#gllug Armand (Armand@cpc1-haye3-0-0-cust311.haye.cable.virginmedia.com)
14:48.28stu_I often hear announcements about the "wrong sort of leaves" on the line
14:48.44stu_which apparently can't be removed by their leaf remover
14:48.53stu_because they are just "wrong"
14:48.57ArmandYou mean, the guy with a broom ?
14:49.15stu_it could well be a broom/leaf compatibility issue
14:50.02ArmandAhhh.. yes.. the broom is not backwards compatible.. they should upgrade to a Windows '98 edition.
14:52.19stu_i do enjoy the occasional BSOD on my commutes
14:52.35stu_but they are no where near as funny as the announcements
14:52.51ArmandBloody Snow Obviously Disrupts ?
14:52.53stu_there is not a "cow on the line", its a "bovine related incident"
14:53.03stu_quite ;-)
14:53.07Armand^_^
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17:33.59*** join/#gllug Nafallo (~nafallo@ubuntu/member/nafallo)
18:05.25morsingNafallo!
18:05.51Nafalloo_O
18:15.00jpdsNafallo: Some bot.
18:16.08Nafallojpds: not entirely. this one talks. I think you meant script.
18:41.07morsingjpds: *sigh*
18:41.10morsingNafallo: *sigh*
19:19.41Nafallomorsing: what!? I defended you! :-P
19:32.49gregj|http://www.7in7fundraising.org.nz/view_event_profile/335
19:32.49gregj|looking for po
19:32.49gregj|ple to
19:32.52gregjfoo
19:32.56gregjbloody irssi
19:33.11gregjI'm looking for folks to support friend of mine in this fundraising, if you please
20:42.39antiphasewonders if this looks like a charitable place
20:44.51morsingwonders why antiphase always has to be a moron
20:45.24antiphaseIt would appear to take one to know one
22:02.07gregjhttp://www.petapixel.com/2010/12/01/russian-software-firm-breaks-canons-authenticity-verification-big-time/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PetaPixel+%28PetaPixel%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
22:02.20gregjmorsing: just the way he was born, probably
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