| 01:47.58 | z00dax | night bus's are quite grim |
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| 06:30.54 | ChoHag | Yes. Yes they are. |
| 07:18.22 | morsing | z00dax: The buses or the people on them? |
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| 09:52.08 | ChoHag | I thought I'd finally move my server this morning from the study to the cupboard under the stairs and regain some floor space. |
| 09:52.26 | ChoHag | The OS has been running stably for a few weeks now and all I had to do was screw the hard drives in. |
| 09:52.44 | ChoHag | But no, says the server, I have a SCSI card and I WANT BLOOD. |
| 09:52.58 | ChoHag | Now it doesn't have a SCSI card and it's still in pieces on the floor. |
| 10:51.30 | wethrin | oops |
| 10:54.20 | ChoHag | Don't just oops. |
| 10:54.24 | ChoHag | Do you have a spare goat? |
| 11:15.32 | wethrin | What about a rubber chicken? |
| 11:16.26 | ChoHag | That'll only work if it's filled with virgin blood. |
| 11:16.38 | ChoHag | And you need the special knife. |
| 11:20.55 | wethrin | I have knives |
| 11:21.51 | ChoHag | Dammit people. 'Please confirm that you can do foo' does not fucking mean 'Please help me do foo'. |
| 11:22.00 | ChoHag | Just tell me if you can do it and fuck the fuck off. |
| 11:22.23 | wethrin | "Can you do it?" "Yes, why?" "Just checking.." |
| 11:24.27 | ChoHag | Moving on, here's a ticket wherein it turns out that some XML feed has ascii control characters in its text fields and, naturally, The App explodes. |
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| 11:25.42 | ChoHag | "Basically, the goal is to minimise the amount of traffic hitting the backend nodes" Oh is THAT why we have border caches? |
| 11:26.08 | ChoHag | Now I see why we need IT managers. Thanks GI Richard! |
| 11:30.43 | ChoHag | HAhahaha |
| 11:30.54 | ChoHag | We have told the customer that since they upgraded to 47, they will benefit from a feature which |
| 11:30.57 | ChoHag | means that if an integration fails to process the files, the next run of the integration will |
| 11:31.00 | ChoHag | automatically pick up the files and process them. |
| 11:31.03 | ChoHag | Simpy Be have asked when we are going to fix the problem which means the integration didn't process |
| 11:31.06 | ChoHag | the files the first time around. |
| 11:52.38 | wethrin | ehrr |
| 12:18.09 | ChoHag | There's so much here that I lose interest in even saying anything. |
| 12:18.21 | ChoHag | Sometimes it's so bad I'm not even sure anyone would believe me. |
| 12:23.07 | ChoHag | ussalt char(2) Salt Salt for "twice encrypted" passwords |
| 12:26.22 | ChoHag | < Peter> Anyone know how a customer could have an order update job running since the 23rd ... |
| 12:26.25 | ChoHag | ... wait for it ... |
| 12:26.49 | ChoHag | Is it November? Is it October? |
| 12:27.04 | ChoHag | Is it ... July? wtF? |
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| 14:02.17 | *** topic/#gllug is Welcome to the Greater London Linux User Group IRC channel | http://www.gllug.org.uk |
| 14:13.14 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Have you read today's post? I honestly think the punchline is hysterical |
| 14:14.36 | wethrin | heh |
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| 15:02.43 | ChoHag | "Attorney General Eric Holder recently pledged to close gaps in the law that allow sites like WikiLeaks to continue to operate." -- like that pesky freedom of speech one. |
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| 15:16.22 | z00dax | morsing: in last nights case, it was the bus that was quite grim. i didnt think it would make it all the way |
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| 15:20.51 | PcSett | Hi, gllug |
| 15:45.11 | z00dax | hello |
| 15:46.10 | z00dax | ibot: seen mozrat |
| 15:46.16 | ibot | mozrat <n=sm@194.203.40.135> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 328d 17h 10m 19s ago, saying: 'AndyMillar, will do'. |
| 15:48.33 | PcSett | Hi z00dax, sorry 'bout the delay, but SWMBO came in! Wow, mozrat! Good things do happen! |
| 15:49.16 | z00dax | PcSett: ok. i was just wondering about mozrat, its his 65th birthday today. |
| 15:49.23 | PcSett | Has everyone gone on the march? |
| 15:49.25 | z00dax | or 38th |
| 15:49.41 | dick_turpin | mozrat :-( |
| 15:49.42 | z00dax | PcSett: what march ? its still 4 months away |
| 15:51.03 | PcSett | OK, all together now, "Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you .... the march now i getting to Trafalgar Square ... |
| 15:51.38 | z00dax | oh i see, the students kicking up a fuss |
| 15:51.45 | PcSett | Here we go, me getting confused because everyone types faster than me! |
| 15:52.23 | z00dax | I've never been on a march of that sort.. I can imagine it might be quite a bit of fun |
| 15:53.30 | PcSett | Blimey - have you been restricting your marching to specialised types, z00dax? |
| 15:53.53 | z00dax | PcSett: not really done any kind of marching |
| 15:54.04 | ChoHag | I managed to avoid the march. |
| 15:54.13 | ChoHag | Got into lunch just before they came past. |
| 15:54.36 | z00dax | I neither work nor live nor travel through any of the 'affected areas' |
| 15:54.41 | ChoHag | I don't see what they're so upset about - what kind of idiot believes a politician? |
| 15:54.51 | z00dax | hum. can one use 'nor' twice like that in the same phrase ? |
| 15:55.31 | PcSett | I've marched for the printers (Wapping), Miners, and yeah, if politicians' mouths are moving, they're lying. |
| 15:55.57 | dick_turpin | If they've got time to march they cant be studying so the grants are a waste of money "Stop their Grants" |
| 15:56.52 | PcSett | z00dax - are you a teacher, or printer? (Oh, hi dick-turpin, up to your normal activity?). |
| 15:57.19 | z00dax | PcSett: nope, not a teacher nor a printer |
| 15:58.24 | PcSett | Omigawd, now it's guessing time. Mind you, I've always thought the strict syntax of programming did spin off into language ... |
| 15:59.10 | dick_turpin | Its a pity that window didn't cut that silly sods arm off when he smashed it, bright kid the look of shock when the plate glass fell on him |
| 16:01.08 | PcSett | I've just realised I'm enjoying this. I usually go into some rant over students/marches. (Yeah, an old schoolmate (c.1947) thought it was fun to see a police officer beat a girl with a truncheon ... ) |
| 16:02.07 | z00dax | PcSett: not very exciting, i dont think that would make the news much either |
| 16:02.28 | ChoHag | How is authentication within a CDN 'usually' done in keeping with the PCI nonsense? |
| 16:02.33 | z00dax | now if the girl was beating a police officer, that might make it |
| 16:02.43 | z00dax | kinda like man bites dog > dog bites man |
| 16:03.03 | ChoHag | I really ought to read the PCI spec to actually know one way or t'other what it says. |
| 16:04.34 | dick_turpin | I cant wait for the bill to clean all the graffiti and damage up, so where exactly is the money for that coming from I'd like to know? |
| 16:04.42 | z00dax | ChoHag: they have some specific points. i think they are along the lines of use a two-layer mechnism, eveyr user needs a unique id, dont share direct user input with third parties etc. |
| 16:04.53 | z00dax | reading the pci spec might be good though :) |
| 16:05.15 | z00dax | dick_turpin: you could/should just setup a graffiti cleaning company |
| 16:05.32 | z00dax | might not find out where the money is coming from - but you'd know atleast where a part of it is going to |
| 16:05.39 | ChoHag | Couldn't they have called it something other than another incredibly common computer acronym? |
| 16:06.05 | dick_turpin | z00dax: I'm inundated with work infecting peoples PC's then selling solutions to clean them |
| 16:07.10 | PcSett | Oh a windoze supporter, eh? Better go, cuppa's ready I hear. Thank you peeps. |
| 16:07.53 | dick_turpin | We can infect Linux machines too :-) |
| 16:08.26 | dick_turpin | "Linux cant get infected" is a myth |
| 16:09.24 | dick_turpin | Hm suppose he's gone off to smash some buildings and cars up to ensure democracy? |
| 16:10.10 | ChoHag | Linux is much easier to infect. |
| 16:11.00 | ChoHag | But nobody cares. |
| 16:12.10 | boudiccas | and i for one am very glad abaout it too |
| 16:12.23 | ChoHag | That it's easy or that nobody cares? |
| 16:12.47 | boudiccas | that ist easy |
| 16:19.00 | ChoHag | $work goes nuts about how good they are at PCI, but actually they fail completely. |
| 16:19.32 | ChoHag | Their incompetent auditors make them do things they don't need, such as a firewall on every server, and don't check things they do, like proper authentication. |
| 16:21.17 | wethrin | that's the problem with box-ticking |
| 16:23.23 | ChoHag | Well that's a bit of light reading for the weekend. |
| 16:30.44 | ChoHag | Haggis can be served in Scottish fast-food establishments deep fried in batter. <-- but of course it can. |
| 16:37.55 | wethrin | haggis++ |
| 16:39.47 | ChoHag | Yes I think this summer's holiday with SWMBO must be to Scotland. |
| 16:41.50 | *** part/#gllug dick_turpin (~dick_turp@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 16:54.06 | z00dax | The Times yesterday had a graph showing worldwide userbase for OS's |
| 16:54.26 | z00dax | they had MS at 90%, Apple at 8% and rest (mostly Linux) at 2% |
| 16:54.52 | z00dax | maybe its something to do with the demographics that I hang out at or the people I know - but of the people i know, linux usage is way higher than 2% |
| 16:55.18 | wethrin | I think it's the people you know |
| 16:58.03 | z00dax | yeah |
| 16:58.51 | Leeds | you probably have more than 8% Apple as well |
| 16:59.29 | ChoHag | More than 2% of the people I know use Linux because either they maintain their own systems and dislike Windows, or I do. |
| 16:59.55 | z00dax | yup, more like 30% Apple, 30% Linux |
| 16:59.56 | ChoHag | But I don't know 100% of the people. |
| 17:01.18 | z00dax | ChoHag: clearly you need to get out more often |
| 17:03.29 | ChoHag | For the love of the Flying Spaghetti Monster no! I don't *want* to knew 100% of the people. |
| 17:03.33 | ChoHag | People suck. |
| 17:05.41 | z00dax | are you not people too ? |
| 17:05.48 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 17:06.02 | ChoHag | Are you assuming that I assume I don't also suck? |
| 17:06.13 | z00dax | i think i was |
| 17:06.51 | ChoHag | People suck. |
| 17:07.03 | z00dax | but then some suckage is good suckage. specially the sorts that makes one angry. since its that kinda suckage that is most likely to make one do something about it |
| 19:04.38 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.32 | AndyMillar | do you know the rpm names? |
| 19:23.38 | boudiccas | AndyMillar, thanks, i've beenable to erase the rpms using yum |
| 19:53.21 | AndyMillar | rpm -e also works |
| 20:30.37 | ChoHag | Chinese food FTW. |
| 20:30.47 | ChoHag | Cost of chinese food FTL though. |
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| 21:01.42 | ChoHag | Why the fuck do I even bother paying tax? |
| 21:01.48 | ChoHag | Useless bunch of gobshites. |
| 21:02.04 | ChoHag | "Click here to apply online" |
| 21:02.16 | ChoHag | "You must download and print this form and fill it in by hand." |