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| 08:22.41 | Cope | moin |
| 08:23.12 | Azundris | moin moin |
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| 08:42.30 | ChoHag | #549621 reported in 2009. File not included in package. |
| 08:42.32 | ChoHag | Still not fixed. |
| 08:47.47 | morsing | ChoHag: Fedora? |
| 08:56.46 | ChoHag | Debian. |
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| 09:44.10 | ChoHag | 'I am in Exchange training as we speak. Yesterday the instructor was |
| 09:44.10 | ChoHag | aghast: "Who still supports IMAP?" |
| 09:44.11 | ChoHag | ' |
| 09:44.35 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 09:47.07 | Azundris | ?? |
| 09:47.10 | Azundris | wtf |
| 09:49.26 | hali | imap is pretty shit |
| 09:49.42 | hali | but there aren't any good alternatives either |
| 09:50.12 | AndyMillar | mapi? :-p |
| 09:50.44 | antiphase | What's wrong with IMAP? |
| 09:54.02 | Leeds | it's somewhat complex |
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| 10:55.54 | ChoHag | "Creating basic menus" |
| 10:55.55 | ChoHag | <130 lines of perl> |
| 10:56.51 | ChoHag | Or using the new-fangled XML bullshit, 260 lines of perl. |
| 10:57.04 | wethrin | But XML is TEH FUTUUR |
| 10:57.10 | ChoHag | Perl! The language where you can have an entire fucking application in 12 bytes. |
| 10:57.38 | Leeds | oh, come on... |
| 10:58.03 | ChoHag | No you're right, 12 bytes is a bit excessive. |
| 10:58.19 | ChoHag | It includes comments though. |
| 10:58.27 | Leeds | XML is obviously better than plain perl |
| 10:58.51 | Leeds | it starts with an X - QED |
| 10:59.26 | ChoHag | X starts with X. |
| 11:01.18 | Leeds | ends with one too |
| 11:01.36 | ChoHag | So by your logic it would be doubly better. |
| 11:01.45 | ChoHag | It is, however, X, so we know that's not true. |
| 11:14.20 | hali | xml is dead, bring on json |
| 11:15.05 | AndyMillar | json is horific |
| 11:25.23 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.39 | morsing | Save? Huh? |
| 11:27.01 | morsing | Unsave? |
| 11:27.30 | boudiccas | i want to depete some that have been previously saved, so i need to remove the 'save' flag |
| 11:27.35 | boudiccas | *delete |
| 11:27.41 | wethrin | D marks a message for deletion |
| 11:27.42 | morsing | All ctrl+n does is move to the next messager? |
| 11:27.43 | morsing | All ctrl+n does is move to the next message? |
| 11:27.53 | morsing | Save flag?? |
| 11:28.05 | morsing | I'm confused... |
| 11:28.16 | morsing | What's a save flag? |
| 11:29.22 | boudiccas | something that trips teh program for a certain course of events |
| 11:29.30 | boudiccas | in this case to save it |
| 11:30.59 | morsing | ... |
| 11:31.21 | morsing | Where does it save it? An archive folder? |
| 11:31.33 | morsing | And still, CTRL-N just displays the next message |
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| 13:13.13 | dick_turpin | Why can I not help thinking the cease fire in Libya remind's me of Santiago Arena 1973? |
| 13:35.51 | ChoHag | Fucking devs. |
| 13:35.57 | ChoHag | 13:33 < ChoHag> Can Gtk pop up a menu with the first (or whichever) item already highlighted? |
| 13:36.02 | ChoHag | 13:34 < jonnor> ChoHag: yes |
| 13:38.36 | Azundris | ? |
| 13:39.03 | Azundris | 1 minute turn-around doesn't seem so bad? |
| 13:39.12 | ChoHag | 'yes' is not a particularly useful answer, despite being technically correct considering my question. |
| 13:40.49 | Azundris | snickers. "I'll admit it's the one I'd probably have given. You know the hot air balloon joke, right? Where the guys in the balloon get lost in the fog and cry out to someone on the ground, 'Oy, where are we?', and when they've almost drifted out of earshot, the guy finally answers, 'In a hot air balloon!'" |
| 13:41.09 | Azundris | And then the one guy in the balloon says to the other, "OK, so that was a math prof." |
| 13:41.15 | Azundris | "How d'you figure?" |
| 13:41.27 | ChoHag | Yeah I'd have done the same some time ago. |
| 13:41.32 | ChoHag | Then I realised I was a cunt, and stopped. |
| 13:41.42 | Azundris | "The answer was absolutely right, absolutely useless, and it took him forever to give it." |
| 13:42.18 | Azundris | ChoHag: I agree, when it's certain what the question shoulda been. |
| 13:42.40 | Azundris | ChoHag: I cut back on the predictive branching though, because if you're wrong, you type your fingers to bleeding stumps for nothing. |
| 14:03.03 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Its your own fault, you asked a 'closed' question "Can" would require either a yes or no answer hence "Yes you 'can'", "No you 'can't'" |
| 14:04.30 | dick_turpin | Better question is "Would a GTK...." or "Tell me If GTK had a pop......" |
| 14:05.24 | ChoHag | I usually just stick '[how]' at the beginning. |
| 14:09.45 | dick_turpin | Here endith lesson #1 of The Good Salesman guide, chapter 1 "Asking the right kind of questions" :-) |
| 14:25.55 | wethrin | you need to ask it in a different way |
| 14:26.07 | wethrin | "Gah! GTK is so rubbish it can't even pop up a menu with the first item already highlighted" |
| 14:30.39 | Azundris | sighs, and actually like GTK2. Another useless skillset, I guess. |
| 14:30.46 | ChoHag | I should try that more often. |
| 14:30.56 | ChoHag | And include Linux in there, too. |
| 14:31.21 | Azundris | I hope not. :( |
| 14:32.41 | ChoHag | I meant in the question/insult. |
| 14:33.02 | ChoHag | Insulting linux brings out the fanbois trying to prove to you how great it is. |
| 14:33.20 | dick_turpin | notes that wethrin is a trouble maker |
| 14:35.56 | Azundris | I miss that True Faith. :/ |
| 14:36.30 | Azundris | My benefactors gave me a MacBook Pro. I knew I was going to hate it, but I figured I'd give it 12 months. |
| 14:36.57 | Azundris | When after 12 months I still hated it, I fixed up my linux machine, and found that now that annoys me too, just in different ways. :-/ |
| 14:37.04 | dick_turpin | I wish someone would give me a Mac |
| 14:37.17 | Azundris | PowerMac, maybe. |
| 14:37.27 | Azundris | MBP is just pointless. |
| 14:37.30 | Azundris | Glossy display. |
| 14:37.33 | Azundris | Low resolution. |
| 14:37.37 | wethrin | MBP is shiny |
| 14:37.41 | Azundris | Power cord that the cats can unplug. |
| 14:38.02 | Azundris | I like the trackpad though, FWIW. |
| 14:38.53 | Azundris | The MBP is pretty. It's just not my favorite machine to do actual work on. |
| 14:39.22 | Leeds | I honestly don't understand how people choose to do real work on laptops anyway |
| 14:39.42 | Azundris | You get used to the pain. |
| 14:40.59 | dick_turpin | Depends if its a 18" Laptop or not I suppose? |
| 14:41.14 | Azundris | I like having stuff I can move on my own. :) |
| 14:42.16 | Azundris | But yeah, I've often wondered whether I'd have preferred the 17" MBP (I have the 15"). |
| 14:42.36 | ChoHag | I think my laptop is 12" or something. |
| 14:42.39 | Azundris | The 17" at the time came with matte display, big plus right there, and a decent rez in the 1900s. |
| 14:42.41 | ChoHag | It's about A4 size. |
| 14:42.53 | wethrin | I have the 15". I'm running it on an external monitor, with external keyboard and mouse at work |
| 14:43.11 | ChoHag | Thinkpad, or whatever not-IBM call them. |
| 14:43.23 | Leeds | I have a desktop at work and a desktop at home |
| 14:43.23 | Azundris | Yeah, I should just do that already. Get an ext screen again. |
| 14:43.35 | Azundris | And maybe the SafeType, just to freak people out. :) |
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| 17:02.17 | ChoHag | "... and polio is caused by sugary foods (as the disease was more prevalent in summer, and thus linked to increased ice-cream consumption)." |
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| 18:13.18 | ChoHag | "Being a Brit I have no love for the cheese-eating-surrender-monkeys. But I envy their 35 work conditions and general attitude to life." |