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| 08:44.38 | boudiccas | test |
| 08:47.08 | morsing | cheese |
| 08:47.19 | morsing | boudiccas: It didn't work - you're still on IPv4 |
| 08:47.45 | boudiccas | but i'm using debian 6! |
| 08:48.12 | morsing | And? Your incompetent ISP probably hasn't enabled your IPv6 |
| 08:48.13 | boudiccas | i'll investigate the IPv6 later when i'm more au fait with this debian |
| 08:48.19 | morsing | ... |
| 08:48.39 | morsing | boudiccas: Check this: http://www.loopsofzen.co.uk/ |
| 08:56.02 | boudiccas | morsing, whats it about? i'm not going to be doing much surfing yet as i'm still setting this up |
| 08:58.45 | murb | boudiccas: adictive game |
| 08:58.50 | murb | only reachable over v6 |
| 08:59.07 | murb | and they even filtered the sixxs.org gateway :( |
| 09:01.02 | boudiccas | ah, i'm off games for the time being, too much else to do |
| 09:03.37 | morsing | boudiccas: *sigh* |
| 09:03.49 | morsing | boudiccas: Wasn't the point... |
| 09:04.18 | murb | boudiccas: it isn't just a game it is critical internet infrustructure! |
| 09:05.00 | morsing | boudiccas: It's actually quite serious |
| 09:05.55 | boudiccas | well, sorry, but i dont have the time available for it yet |
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| 09:24.26 | boudiccas | whats the command to query usb devices please? my external hard drive isnt being picked up, and thats got my backup on |
| 09:29.51 | murb | lsusb |
| 09:30.00 | boudiccas | morsing, can you help please? |
| 09:30.10 | boudiccas | ah thanks murb |
| 09:32.00 | boudiccas | so i now know that its running as ..... Bus 001 Device 003: ID 1bcf:0c31 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc.... but how do i translate that into a icon which i can clcik on to gain access to its files? |
| 09:34.08 | antiphase | dmesg and see what device has been plugged in |
| 09:39.07 | morsing | boudiccas: Linux and USB is shit. Almost impossible to link USB IDs and devices |
| 09:42.58 | boudiccas | http://pastebin.com/Vp7QEZcy is the paste from dmesg. it appears to be mounted as sdb, but how do i get it so that i can mount it please? |
| 09:44.12 | morsing | You're contradicting yourself |
| 09:44.19 | morsing | Is it mounted or not? |
| 09:44.40 | boudiccas | morsing, its not unknown, and the answer i think is 'no' |
| 09:45.08 | morsing | So, mount /dev/ddb /mnt/blah |
| 09:47.30 | wethrin | probably mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 09:47.48 | wethrin | but it's got a couple of partitions on it |
| 10:04.04 | boudiccas | whats wrong with this line for /etc/fstab ............... /dev/sdb/mnt/backupautorw,user, noauto00 ............ it just says its bad but doesnt say how? |
| 10:05.29 | hali | sure it's just sdb? |
| 10:05.32 | hali | not sdb1 or anything |
| 10:05.33 | morsing | All the weird control characters are bad |
| 10:06.01 | hali | and no space before noauto |
| 10:06.08 | boudiccas | no, i think that its just sdb, with no partitions on it |
| 10:06.16 | hali | user,noauto |
| 10:07.35 | boudiccas | i'm so used to putting spaces after a word, it just slipped in :) |
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| 10:09.17 | wethrin | The weird control characters aren't bad - they're just tabs |
| 10:11.07 | boudiccas | should it be /mount/backup instead of /mnt/ ? |
| 10:11.25 | hali | cant be whatever you want it to be |
| 10:11.27 | hali | i like /mnt |
| 10:11.32 | hali | nice and old school |
| 10:12.14 | wethrin | media is the trendy place to put it |
| 10:12.33 | boudiccas | when i run it, this is what i get .......... mount backup mount: can't find backup in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab |
| 10:13.18 | wethrin | you'd want 'mount /mnt/backup' |
| 10:17.19 | morsing | boudiccas: Why don't you just remove your spacebar, just as you've done with your shift key? |
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| 10:19.30 | morsing | zooz! |
| 10:19.41 | zooz | morsing! |
| 10:20.30 | boudiccas | right, i've created a folder called backup in /mnt so we're getting there |
| 10:21.59 | morsing | boudiccas: Do you understand what mount does? |
| 10:22.18 | morsing | You need to create /mnt/backup as well |
| 10:22.44 | boudiccas | and this is what i get .... root@london:/home/boztu# mount /mnt/backup /dev/sdb5 looks like swapspace - not mounted mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 10:23.01 | morsing | boudiccas: Why don't you just copy your stuff to your VPS instead of having un-reliable USB-drives? |
| 10:23.18 | boudiccas | morsing, what vps? |
| 10:23.20 | morsing | boudiccas: Why now sdb5? Can you make up your mind? |
| 10:23.38 | morsing | boudiccas: Get one from your friend Kitty |
| 10:23.41 | zooz | boudiccas, the syntax of mount is : mount /dev/device/you/want/to/mount /mount/point |
| 10:25.15 | hali | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxi6QDwQyLU old but still going strong |
| 10:42.29 | boudiccas | this is one line from dmesg ........ [ 5713.547132] sdb: sdb1 sdb2 < sdb5 > ......... so which sdbfoo is the usb external hard drive on then please? |
| 10:43.13 | boudiccas | sdb1 gives the debian 6 filesystem |
| 10:43.28 | morsing | boudiccas: lol :) |
| 10:43.30 | antiphase | sudo parted -l |
| 10:53.06 | boudiccas | http://pastebin.com/z8yxVhU5 ........... it looks like i've overwritten my backups. fuck! |
| 10:53.35 | morsing | boudiccas: Get a VPS and rsync instead |
| 10:54.34 | murb | or S3 account and various other tools. |
| 10:54.43 | boudiccas | any ideas as to how i can get them back again please? |
| 10:54.45 | antiphase | sdb1 is the large partition as you can see |
| 10:54.59 | antiphase | Doesn't it mount at all? |
| 10:55.16 | murb | yeah sdb2 is just a container for sdb5 |
| 10:55.21 | boudiccas | when i mount sdb1 i get the same filesystem as on the main drive |
| 10:55.32 | murb | boudiccas: are you using RAID or anything? |
| 10:55.36 | boudiccas | nope |
| 10:55.45 | antiphase | What were you expecting to be on there? |
| 10:55.53 | boudiccas | my backups |
| 10:56.03 | murb | what does blkid say? |
| 10:57.49 | boudiccas | murb, http://pastebin.com/hqmsbwyb |
| 10:59.38 | antiphase | If you were expecting backups, I'd think it a bit odd that you'd accidentally copied your root file system over them personally. There's no accounting for taste though |
| 11:00.08 | morsing | boudiccas: What does 'mount | grep "/ "' say? |
| 11:00.25 | morsing | boudiccas: I think you're looking at the wrong thing |
| 11:02.56 | boudiccas | morsing, mount | grep "/ " /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro) |
| 11:03.04 | morsing | Hmm |
| 11:07.43 | boudiccas | oh fuck fuck fuck! everythign gone, its enough to make a saint swear! |
| 11:08.46 | morsing | boudiccas: Even your partition table on that USB drive looks odd |
| 11:09.04 | morsing | I find it hard to believe you're looking at the right thing |
| 11:11.16 | boudiccas | well how else can i find my usb drive with all my backups on? |
| 11:11.50 | boudiccas | i'm open to any serious suggestions in the hope that i can get my backups back |
| 11:18.30 | boudiccas | anyone? |
| 11:21.01 | boudiccas | its an external usb hard drive of 250gig, which appears to have been overwritten by the main / |
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| 11:57.43 | morsing | boudiccas: If you're right, the partitioning on the drive looks like someone's run dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb which I find really hard to believe |
| 11:58.19 | morsing | boudiccas: What does df say? |
| 11:59.32 | boudiccas | morsing, /dev/sdb1 228G 4.1G 213G 2% /media/e32ba709-0a1b-4924-b1b8-d4f208c052eb |
| 11:59.33 | boudiccas | /dev/sr0 4.4G 4.4G 0 100% /media/cdrom0 |
| 11:59.33 | boudiccas | /dev/sdb1 228G 4.1G 213G 2% /mnt/backup |
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| 12:00.25 | boudiccas | this seems strange that there should be two sdb1's |
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| 12:01.18 | morsing | boudiccas: So basically you don't have an sda? |
| 12:01.49 | morsing | boudiccas: What about fdisk -l? |
| 12:01.54 | morsing | kjs! |
| 12:04.39 | boudiccas | http://pastebin.com/KYvKxWtB .......... is the output morsing |
| 12:05.22 | morsing | boudiccas: pastebin is blocked by our proxy |
| 12:06.00 | boudiccas | morsing, you want me to paste it in the channel? |
| 12:08.18 | morsing | No, put it in a file on your webserver and paste the link |
| 12:09.28 | boudiccas | i havent got access to it now as i've lost the password on the backup! its all on the external hard drive |
| 12:09.48 | morsing | boudiccas: What I'm trying to establish is if your sda and sdb is the same drive and you haven't even found your USB drive yet |
| 12:09.52 | boudiccas | you want me to pm you with the poaste from th epastebin |
| 12:10.06 | boudiccas | yes, i think it looks funny too |
| 12:10.08 | morsing | Could do, or email |
| 12:10.22 | boudiccas | cant email as i havent got the passwords again |
| 12:10.33 | morsing | Huh? Passwords for emailing? |
| 12:11.21 | boudiccas | yes, to get into my isp |
| 12:12.17 | morsing | boudiccas: Right, easy to fix |
| 12:12.25 | boudiccas | okay |
| 12:12.34 | morsing | umount /mnt/backup |
| 12:12.37 | morsing | Then |
| 12:12.42 | boudiccas | the external hard drive is formatted ntfs, if thats of nay help |
| 12:12.52 | morsing | mount -t ntfs /dev/sdc1 /mnt/backup |
| 12:13.18 | morsing | That'll get your stuff back |
| 12:13.37 | boudiccas | umount /mnt/backup |
| 12:13.37 | boudiccas | umount: /mnt/backup: not mounted |
| 12:14.02 | morsing | lol :) |
| 12:14.05 | morsing | Ok, proceed |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | NTFS signature is missing. |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | Failed to mount '/dev/sdc1': Invalid argument |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | The device '/dev/sdc1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. |
| 12:14.23 | boudiccas | Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a |
| 12:14.24 | boudiccas | partition (e.g. /dev/sda, no |
| 12:14.52 | murb | boudiccas: i don't think the in kernel ntfs suppotr is that good. |
| 12:14.52 | boudiccas | the whole of the external drive is formatted NTFS |
| 12:15.01 | murb | you might be better off with ntfs3g |
| 12:15.21 | morsing | boudiccas: It's sdc1, trust me |
| 12:15.31 | murb | what does lsscsi say? |
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| 12:15.39 | morsing | boudiccas: If formatted under Windows, it might tell you it's the "whole" drive, but it's not |
| 12:15.48 | morsing | Windows can't even do that, I think |
| 12:15.52 | murb | morsing: it can |
| 12:15.55 | boudiccas | no it was formatted under linux as ntfs |
| 12:16.01 | murb | there is some kind standard for that. |
| 12:16.02 | morsing | murb: Ok, but it's nnot. It's sdc1 |
| 12:16.03 | murb | boudiccas: !? |
| 12:16.10 | murb | morsing: sure in this case, but it is possible. |
| 12:16.22 | murb | boudiccas: what were you thinking? |
| 12:16.49 | boudiccas | murb, lsscsi |
| 12:16.49 | boudiccas | bash: lsscsi: command not found |
| 12:17.14 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Are you on identica? |
| 12:17.52 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Is this you? http://identi.ca/kbsingh |
| 12:18.21 | morsing | boudiccas: Have you ever mounted this before? |
| 12:18.45 | boudiccas | yes, it was left permanently mounted for my backups every six hours |
| 12:19.24 | boudiccas | and i did a complete backup just before i nuked my centos setup |
| 12:20.12 | morsing | Right |
| 12:20.32 | morsing | You need to install support for NTFS on your new system |
| 12:20.37 | boudiccas | k |
| 12:21.16 | boudiccas | whats the package called as it cant find lower case ntfs |
| 12:21.21 | morsing | But don't worry, you haven't lost your backups, just your mind |
| 12:21.33 | morsing | PLEASE - next time don't use NTFS |
| 12:22.33 | boudiccas | E: Unable to locate package NTFS |
| 12:22.59 | morsing | apt-cache search ntfs? |
| 12:23.21 | murb | apt-get moo is better |
| 13:00.28 | hali | NTFS is pretty ok |
| 13:00.30 | hali | gnerally |
| 13:02.16 | morsing | hali: She's screwed - don't know how she's done it |
| 13:18.08 | boudiccas | thanks for trying anyway morsing |
| 13:20.50 | kjs | yo |
| 13:21.58 | kjs | I am installing fedora via kickstart and it randomly just hangs during "package installation" anyone else seen this??! I guess it could be a fubar dvd. |
| 13:25.10 | morsing | kjs: You're not trying to install it on Sharon's USB drive, are you? |
| 13:27.24 | kjs | na |
| 13:27.51 | kjs | has no idea who Sharron is... |
| 13:27.58 | z00dax | dick_turpin: that is me yes |
| 13:28.16 | morsing | kjs: Huh!?!? How many years have you been on this channel!?!?! |
| 13:28.28 | kjs | too many... |
| 13:28.34 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Why have you not subscribed to me you bugger! |
| 13:33.41 | z00dax | dick_turpin: I dont really use it, I'm more of a twitter person |
| 13:37.33 | dick_turpin | z00dax: Hm I must hunt you down on there as well, is it the same username? |
| 13:37.50 | z00dax | yea |
| 13:38.14 | dick_turpin | goes off to stalk z00dax |
| 13:40.58 | dick_turpin | Done |
| 13:41.25 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Get on twitter or identica so I can spam you as well |
| 13:41.42 | antiphase | I'm on twitter. You'll never guess my username though |
| 13:42.41 | dick_turpin | completeandutterbastard? |
| 13:43.53 | dick_turpin | "Put a banging donk on it" that just has to be you |
| 13:45.44 | kjs | dick_turpin: whats your name on there? |
| 13:46.34 | dick_turpin | twitter = dick_turpin identi.ca = dickturpin |
| 13:52.07 | antiphase | Mr. Potato Head appears to have hijacked your account |
| 13:52.55 | dick_turpin | antiphase: You know you want to lick it |
| 13:53.28 | kjs | following you with my @techspotting account |
| 13:56.32 | dick_turpin | Yay antiphase loves me |
| 13:56.56 | dick_turpin | kjs: Accepted and added to my "I like em" list |
| 13:59.15 | dick_turpin | antiphase: Ooh look its your mate |
| 14:03.15 | antiphase | Ah, handjob |
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| 14:33.29 | dick_turpin | antiphase: http://twitpic.com/4f898j ROTFLMAO my grandparents used to live round the back of Upney tube station so I know Upminster well |
| 14:38.35 | antiphase | That was Acton Town as it happens. I don't go further east than Hammersmith because there are ghettos and stuff |
| 14:39.15 | dick_turpin | I'm still laughing now you git |
| 14:39.36 | dick_turpin | Brilliant how there's a cake on the back page |
| 14:40.42 | dick_turpin | It always used to fascinate me as kid the overground and underground trains in the same station at Upminster |
| 14:41.38 | dick_turpin | I used to get on at East ham and get off at Upney |
| 14:45.51 | morsing | Beer |
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| 14:48.38 | skinjob | ... I thought Hammersmith was a ghetto... |
| 14:49.15 | morsing | s/Hammersmith/London/ |
| 14:50.31 | skinjob | basically, anything inside the M25 and not the city or westminster is mostly ghetto |
| 14:50.36 | ChoHag | Hammersmith is the next yuppy area I think. |
| 14:50.37 | skinjob | I live in barking... thats a ghetto |
| 14:50.57 | ChoHag | skinjob: Not quite. There are some parts with no people. |
| 14:52.09 | skinjob | yeh theres the greenbelt between the ghettos... obviously |
| 14:53.57 | skinjob | time to just accept it and get ghetto fabulous about it |
| 14:54.40 | dick_turpin | skinjob: Please move as I was born in Barking and I suspect you are ruining it. |
| 15:05.38 | skinjob | yeh it could be me.. |
| 15:05.52 | skinjob | actually I'm off to bromley next |
| 15:06.32 | hali | i need a bucket of ice |
| 15:06.38 | hali | new HR girl |
| 15:06.38 | skinjob | see if I can take that down a notch or two |
| 15:09.17 | dick_turpin | hali: Pictures or it never happened |
| 15:18.31 | hali | ha |
| 15:18.32 | hali | right on |
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| 15:24.39 | morsing | boudiccas! |
| 15:24.50 | morsing | boudiccas: Didn't work, you're still on IPv4 |
| 15:26.34 | boudiccas | and will be for some time yet i suspect :) btw, do you reckon that its okay to delete <all> the files off the removable had drive, so that i can use it for backups again? |
| 15:26.48 | morsing | boudiccas: Type format C: |
| 15:26.50 | boudiccas | s/had/ hard |
| 15:27.15 | boudiccas | morsing, lol. this is NOT MS Windows, thank goodness |
| 15:27.36 | morsing | fondly remember the sales director who told him to run format c: on some old Unix servers he'd sold |
| 15:28.06 | boudiccas | you cant help smiling at some of their ways :) |
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| 16:01.27 | kjs | argh |
| 16:03.39 | kjs | this is driving me insane, I am trying to install fedora from a kickstart... it works sometimes but not others, it crashes out randomly when it attempts to increase the resolution of the text console. Is there anyway of turning this off?? I have tried "text" in the kickstart, still does it... I have tried xdriver=vesa at boot as well... same results. |
| 16:06.29 | kjs | oh ffs... i typoed nomodeset as momodeset arggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh |
| 16:09.01 | dick_turpin | Install Arch Linux |
| 16:17.07 | ChoHag | http://theoatmeal.com/blog/fix_computer |
| 16:17.42 | ChoHag | kjs: See if you can pass an option to blacklist whichever module is being loaded to set the mode. |
| 16:18.12 | ChoHag | I remember trying every variation I could to get Ubuntu to install with a screen it always tried too high a resolution for. |
| 16:22.08 | kjs | ChoHag: yeah i think i have it nailed now. |
| 16:22.40 | kjs | Now i just need to respin the fedora install. |
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| 18:46.26 | ChoHag | [20:46:15] [success] - Everything is OK |
| 18:47.08 | ChoHag | (Ignore the time, see the message) |
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| 21:06.46 | morsing | gmarkall! |
| 21:26.24 | gmarkall | morsing! |
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| 21:53.50 | morsing | boudiccas! |