IRC log for #gllug on 20110503

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06:17.17morsingMohan!
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06:30.29morsingsabinef72!
06:51.16ChoHagIt's brilliant how people never manage to connect the dots.
06:51.18ChoHag"I was speaking to $thicko_contractor who couldn't do $bloody_obvious_task. He was earning upwards of £bajillion per day."
06:53.03morsingChoHag: Name and shame
06:53.13ChoHagOh no, some blog from years ago.
06:53.32morsingProbably Andy Makin
06:53.45ChoHagThese days it's me who's $thicko_contractor because I realised I can easily do $bloody_obvious_task so can earn £bajillion+1.
06:54.15morsingOr James Dey - who, I'm not kidding, had to change his name because his reputation was so bad he couldn't get work anymore
06:54.35ChoHagThat's surely not going to last long.
06:55.09morsingIn James' case it was behaviour though, not incompetence
06:55.59ChoHagGo on.
06:58.43morsingHe had fits if he didn't get things done his
06:58.45morsingway
06:59.31morsingOne day, he stormed out of a meeting and ran home. Didn't show up for two days. Rang his boss and said "My way or I'm not coming back!". Boss said "Good bye then"
07:03.31ChoHagHaha.
07:08.57AndyMillarlol
07:09.32AndyMillaryou're a contractor, you're paid £bajillion per day to do the shit tasks they don't want to do
07:10.59AndyMillar(and to do it their way...)
07:11.15gregjwishes he got paid bajillion
07:11.35AndyMillarnah, imagine how shitty the jobs would have to be to justify it ;)
07:12.01ChoHagMost of it is putting up with grief from regular employees who see me as taking their jobs, not doing as well and getting paid more.
07:12.19ChoHagIt never ceases to amaze me why they don't do it themselves.
07:12.42AndyMillarjob security
07:12.47AndyMillarthat said, it's what I'm doing now :p
07:13.12ChoHagThere is no job security.
07:13.34ChoHagJust ask the 4000 people working here (Nokia) who just got collectively fired.
07:13.42AndyMillarapparent job security...
07:14.29AndyMillaryou hear of contractors being out of work for years
07:14.35AndyMillarthat said, if you're any good you can get work :p
07:14.49ChoHagYeah, it's the shit contractors who are out of work for years.
07:15.06ChoHagAnd the pay compensates for that anyway.
07:15.26AndyMillar:p
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07:26.03morsingWhy do OpenReach leave you a job reference the call center doesn't understand?
07:32.28ChoHagThey don't care. They don't have to.
07:36.38ChoHagCan the N900 be made to do NAT?
07:39.26morsingChoHag: Does OpenReach have a direct number then?
08:37.26ChoHagProbably, but not for the likes of you.
08:40.52morsingWhat's the point in leaving an OpenReach reference and asking me to call BT who doesn't understand the reference
08:45.03ChoHagI think you have missed something in the whole "don't care" thing.
08:45.24morsingAnd Aviva's site is broken...
08:53.46morsingboudiccas: Where's wethrin?
09:01.18z00daxover there ---------->
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09:28.43morsingflips_and_rails!
09:28.49morsingz00dax: Check it
09:48.54morsingMan, guest books are expensive
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10:13.00morsingsabinef72!
10:13.48z00daxbeer!
11:11.28ChoHag"Phone is working too but there is no sound yet."
11:11.30ChoHagMarvellous,
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11:23.56dick_turpinantiphase: I hope you turned out onto the streets to watch your Lord and Lady master tie the not?
11:24.49antiphaseI watched it on TV from a safe distance
11:26.48dick_turpinYeah all these so called anti-royalists with their big words of "I'm not watching" our streets was deserted from 9:30am till just after 12 I don't remember seeing one car drive down the road
11:28.42ChoHagI left the country.
11:28.46ChoHagIs that anti-royal enough?
11:30.45morsingBT is a very efficient company
11:31.02dick_turpincontacts The Tower and organises accommodation for ChoHag
11:35.34ChoHagmorsing: But efficient at what?
11:39.09ChoHagThere are critical production machines on the floor under my desk.
11:40.36dick_turpinThe must be either very small machines or you have a very large desk?
11:40.50dick_turpins/The/They
11:50.14ChoHagSmall.
11:50.24ChoHagSome kind of dell workstation.
11:51.45dick_turpinOoh are they Optiplex 745's?
11:51.56ChoHagI don't know.
11:52.02ChoHagI can only see the arse-end of them.
11:52.09dick_turpinLOOK damn you!
11:52.22ChoHagAnd get my trousers dirty?
11:52.47dick_turpinWhy have you gone all posh and put clothes on today?
11:53.01ChoHagThey don't let you fly in the nip.
11:53.08ChoHagPlus there's still snow in places around here.
11:54.32dick_turpinBest get something warm and meaty inside you then
12:26.33morsingSo, last year my home insurance was £102. During the year I rang up about a possible claim but because of the excess decided it wasn't worth claiming, now my premium has gone up to £214
12:29.12halithey probably did a background check too ;)
12:31.22morsingWell, they're not brilliant at this business thing eh? They've now last a customer they could have made £102/year from for years to come
12:31.27morsings/last/lost/
12:32.28ChoHagThey're lost ~ £3000?
12:32.34ChoHagI'm sure they're shitting themselves.
12:34.11ChoHagNobody cares about individual customers any more.
12:35.09morsingWell, when they've lost 10000 customerss that way they might start to care
12:35.32ChoHagThey might.
12:38.07dick_turpinI wonder if boudiccas would wear this for me http://ca.kotaku.com/5797983/nothing-says-mario-like-465-latex SFW
12:42.32ChoHag"If you are interested, contact us on email: loans.privatecapitals@live.com for more information."
12:42.35ChoHaglive.com
12:42.37ChoHagLooks legit.
12:45.48ChoHaghttp://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/9/2011/04/bca902b43a1644ce92423098307623a9/original.png
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14:04.13ChoHaghttp://depletedcranium.com/idiotic-report-claims-nuclear-power-plants-are-11-trillion-dollar-risk/
14:04.35ChoHagYou could completely destroy much of Germany and rebuild it all for less than that. We know. We’ve actually done it.
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15:00.05morsingzooz!
15:00.25zoozwhen is the next meeting?
15:00.31zoozI would love to come
15:00.39morsinglol! :)
15:00.39zoozbeen ages since my last visit
15:01.03morsingGLLUG is dead, man
15:01.09zoozright.. :-)
15:01.28morsingBeen dead for years
15:03.54gw280GET BACK TO WOROOOOOOKRKRKRKRKRK
15:09.06Copemorsing:
15:10.08CopeI loved that funny little linux system that ran on the pseries kit - i can't recall what it's called... ran some kind of slimmed down suse with fluxbox
15:10.11Copewhat was it?
15:10.14Copewhat is its name?
15:10.34dick_turpinslimSUSE
15:10.48Copeplease stand up
15:10.52dick_turpingets back to work
15:11.02Copeoh... who was the dude who worked at oxfam
15:11.07Copein this channel i think
15:11.10Copekostas maybe?
15:13.08*** join/#gllug PcSett (~don@host86-173-58-80.range86-173.btcentralplus.com)
15:13.56Copemorsing: hmc maybe?
15:15.55morsingCope: ?
15:15.59morsingPcSett!
15:18.23PcSettmorsing: Hi - I've just rid myself of windoze 7 that came with my new pc. openSUSE wiped it for me
15:18.41morsingyay :)
15:20.16PcSettEverything's seemingly OK, I've just got to find the type sizing buttons as it's all a tad small. But yeah, OK.
15:21.20CopePcSett: do you do anything apart from reinstalling linux?
15:21.21PcSettmorsing: Mind you, I still prefer Debian :)
15:23.06PcSettPart of my learning curve - big part. But my main idea is to promote FOSS etc locally - by example.
15:24.26PcSettI now have two bits of kit, networked (I hope!) so I aim to have two distros on the older machine with my main work being done on this baby.
15:26.44PcSettMind you, I find your comment interesting - as a pensioner I find loadsatime. As one with a few braincells still active I feel a tad lonely sometimes ...
15:27.35Copeyou should make friends with my father in law
15:27.43Copehe likes playing witth ubuntu
15:27.59Copei gave him a spare laptop so he could play with natty
15:28.30Copehe's been enthusiastically experimenting
15:28.53CopePcSett: btw I am sorry if what I said sounded harsh - it wasn't intended to be
15:29.29PcSettoooh, tight fit, I think. My VERY generous SWMBO fitted me up with all my gear. No worries, Cope, nowt to worry!
15:31.41PcSettBy the way, it was five years ago that I threw out windoze 2000 and installed (with the great help of the kindly Simon Morris) SUSE 10.1. It's all been very good.
15:32.32PcSettSorry, what I mean is GLLUG members have been very good. To me.
15:34.37Cope:)
15:34.49Copegood old mozrat
15:35.49morsingCope: Where's mozrat?
15:35.54PcSettYup - long may his ear'oles fester with friendliness
15:36.39Copegw280: where's mozrat?
15:36.50PcSettmorsing: he appeared here a while back, last year some time.
15:37.09morsinglol :)
15:37.20gw280Cope: I duno :(
15:37.27gw280Cope: so it looks like I should have the google job
15:37.52dick_turpinMozrat is alive and well and posts occasionally on Facebook
15:44.51Copegw280: well done!
15:45.27gw280Cope: but
15:45.31gw280Cope: they wont' let me work from home...
15:45.42gw280Cope: I'd have to commute an hour each way to the nearest office to Toronto
15:45.47gw280Cope: but there's a free google shuttle bus there
15:46.29Copeyou could move
15:46.42gw280no I can't
15:47.07morsinggw280: You'll probably get sacked after a month anyway
15:47.18gw280why?
15:47.23gw280because I'm stonkingly clever?
15:47.39morsingBecause you behave like a 5-year-old
15:50.29Copefrowns
15:50.35Copethat's not kind :(
15:50.41morsingCope: gw280 isn't kind
15:50.46Copegw280 is nice
15:50.51morsingNo, he isn't
15:51.28Copewell, i like gw280 and I like morsing too
15:52.04gw280so I'm considering upgrading my imac
15:52.06gw280to the new one
15:52.07gw280hrmmmm
15:53.07Copehttp://goo.gl/CxrOX ?
15:53.26gw280no :P
15:59.11Copegw280: come to devopsdays
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16:02.01gw280Cope: what are those?
16:03.50Copehttp://www.devopsdays.org/events/2011-mountainview/
16:16.53gw280oh
16:16.56gw280I don't live anywhere near MTV :P
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18:08.40gw280Cope: are you in the bay area these days then?
18:13.42Copeno.... just in june
18:18.33gw280ah ok
18:18.38gw280I may be there in june for orientation!
18:18.41gw280if I get the job
18:18.42gw280mwahahaha
18:30.27Copehehe
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