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| 12:02.21 | dick_turpin | ⫠⪠"Daddy was a bankrobber but he never hurt nobody he just loved to live that way and he loved to steal your money" ⬠⩠|
| 12:09.47 | ChoHag | sudo apt-get --purge remove openjdk-6-jre default-jre default-jre-headless |
| 12:09.49 | ChoHag | The following NEW packages will be installed |
| 12:09.51 | ChoHag | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.45 | wethrin | dick_turpin: You in Watford, then? |
| 12:38.50 | ChoHag | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEHNrqPkefI#t=33m18s |
| 12:38.52 | ChoHag | Substitue 'Apple' for 'Linux'. |
| 12:38.53 | ChoHag | Until 34m10s |
| 12:39.04 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Aye? |
| 12:39.39 | wethrin | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-13629679 |
| 12:39.52 | ChoHag | "We have to let go of this notion that for Linux to win, Microsoft has to lose." |
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| 12:44.00 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: I let go of that notion 10 years ago, in fact I've never held that opinion. |
| 12:44.22 | ChoHag | Enough people do, that they're killing Linux. |
| 12:44.35 | ChoHag | Pisses me off. They need to grow up. |
| 12:46.33 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Where the hell would I get a bomb? All I have is a bag of sherbert dabs and an elastic band |
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| 13:01.03 | antiphase | Mark Shittleworth and his crazy plans are probably more of a threat to Linux-based systems than Microsoft are |
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| 13:02.01 | ChoHag | He has plans? |
| 13:02.12 | antiphase | Well, that's one of the problems |
| 13:02.15 | dick_turpin | hugs antiphase and gives the left one a quick squeeze |
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| 13:04.25 | ChoHag | Frankly I'm finding fewer and fewer reasons to use Linux at all. |
| 13:06.12 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: You'll have to start *paying* for sado masochist seasons instead |
| 13:06.24 | ChoHag | Quite. |
| 13:06.39 | ChoHag | That is depressingly to the point. |
| 13:30.34 | antiphase | appears to be using OS X at present |
| 13:31.55 | dick_turpin | Yeah but you're cruel and mean anyway so that dosen't count |
| 13:32.35 | ChoHag | This baby still hasn't shown up. |
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| 13:42.45 | ChoHag | Oh for fuck's sake this is stupid. |
| 13:43.04 | hali | http://www.next.co.uk/model-competition-2011/vote-for-me-idgek9j984/ |
| 13:43.07 | ChoHag | Lloyds won't even let me type in the xth, yth and zth letters of the (second) password. |
| 13:43.15 | ChoHag | I have to select from a bloody drop-down list. |
| 13:44.37 | antiphase | start keylogger |
| 13:49.03 | murb | stop keylogger |
| 13:49.07 | murb | (you bad person!) |
| 13:53.14 | dick_turpin | He's terrible, I used to be so nice before I started associating with him |
| 14:29.00 | ChoHag | You can't make this shit up. |
| 14:29.11 | ChoHag | 15:28 < Heximacs> "most intelligent people have dumped Linux".... pray tell to switch to what? |
| 14:29.14 | ChoHag | 15:28 < ChoHag> OS X, Windows or FreeBSD. |
| 14:29.17 | ChoHag | 15:28 < Heximacs> FreeBSD perhaps... OSX, Windows would mean they weren't actually intelligent to begin with |
| 14:29.57 | ChoHag | You heard it here first, folks. Intelligent people don't use OSX or Windows. |
| 14:30.24 | ChoHag | Mind you considering the mactards queueing outside their temple when The Steve shits out another box, I could probably agree with OSX... |
| 14:32.52 | wethrin | Except, of course, Macs are rather popular with the crowd of people that want the computer to just work, and then be able to get on with their jobs |
| 14:33.22 | wethrin | So there's a new guy at work, and he has an Ubuntu laptop |
| 14:33.28 | wethrin | it doesn't talk well to the external monitor |
| 14:33.44 | wethrin | so he can either not see most of the picture, or run it at the same resolution as the laptop display |
| 14:33.50 | wethrin | both of which are rather useless |
| 14:34.02 | ChoHag | You had me at Ubuntu. |
| 14:34.20 | wethrin | heh |
| 14:35.26 | ChoHag | Is anybody else not bothering with the latest Ubuntu? |
| 14:50.21 | dick_turpin | Hoardes are flocking to Linux Mint |
| 14:51.01 | dick_turpin | Mint's next release will be Gnome3 by default which is awesome |
| 14:51.30 | dick_turpin | Unity is a pile of 5 year old shit |
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| 15:20.27 | antiphase | Gnome 3 is total wank |
| 15:20.39 | antiphase | I started using Xfce to get away from it |
| 15:27.51 | Azundris | antiphase: Is that good or bad? |
| 15:28.09 | Azundris | Wank, I mean. I know that Xfce is ... um ... "not for me." |
| 15:30.21 | antiphase | Gnome 3 is rubbish |
| 15:30.32 | Azundris | Hm, OK, thanks. |
| 15:30.40 | Azundris | I thought it might well be. Haven't test it yet. |
| 15:30.47 | antiphase | It doesn't do anything that earlier version didn't, but just takes more CPU power to do it with more bugs |
| 15:30.52 | Azundris | :-/ |
| 15:31.03 | antiphase | Some people seem to love it though |
| 15:31.04 | Azundris | And I trust they continued on their "no options for anybody" course? |
| 15:31.07 | antiphase | looks pointedly at dick_turpin |
| 15:31.27 | antiphase | I certainly couldn't customise it in any way, and the fonts were all fucked up |
| 15:31.35 | Azundris | Blah. #$%#$%#@$%@# idiots. |
| 15:31.37 | antiphase | You have to write XML plugins or some total nonsense to get it to work |
| 15:31.51 | Azundris | It all went downhill after G1. |
| 15:32.10 | Azundris | Heck, Gtk2 has some good stuff, but GNOME2 was already a mess. :( |
| 15:32.16 | antiphase | I do struggle to see the difference between Gnome or KDE of 10 years ago and now |
| 15:32.50 | antiphase | Has windows, does clicky stuff. Is still jsut a shim on top of the same X, albeit X.org rather than XFree86 |
| 15:32.50 | Azundris | They changed something in KDE. I'm not sure what, but I don't find it insufferable anymore. Maybe, I'm just dead inside these days. |
| 15:33.29 | antiphase | I know what the difference is. NetworkManager! |
| 15:33.44 | Azundris | And once more, I'm not quite sure whether that's good or bad. :-D |
| 15:34.19 | Azundris | never quite grew to trust that, had a set of byzantine scripts on her laptop instead. :-D Nothing for a production machine, of course. |
| 15:36.09 | antiphase | I admit that NM makes it less of a pain in the arse to deal with wireless, but otherwise it's fairly hateful |
| 15:38.04 | Azundris | I hear the infrastructure is abominable, yeah, but I woulda been ready to live with that. I was a too-early-adopter though, and it was just flaky in the beginning. |
| 15:40.19 | dick_turpin | antiphase: I love you as well by the way |
| 15:56.57 | ChoHag | Network Mangler is a turd. |
| 15:57.10 | ChoHag | It only looks good compared with the competition, which is nothing. |
| 15:57.30 | ChoHag | At least if you only count Freetard software then it's nothing. Otherwise OSX and Windows have some pretty nice offerings. |
| 15:58.21 | ChoHag | Windows wireless is Yet Another example of where Microsoft royally fucked up (anyone remember configuring wireless on XP? Fun.) and yet Linux spectacularly failed to take advantage of it. |
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| 16:16.50 | Azundris | Yeah, wireless is one of the few things that actually "just works" on OS X. |
| 16:17.16 | Azundris | Vanilla wireless anyway. |
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| 16:28.53 | ChoHag | How ironic that upowerd is taking up > 50% of the CPU. |
| 17:16.34 | ChoHag | Our garden is full of feathers. |
| 17:16.35 | ChoHag | No dead bird though. |
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