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| 08:22.10 | ChoHag | 2012-07-30 18:04:23 Got fatal error during xfer (fileListReceive failed) |
| 08:22.17 | ChoHag | fileListReceive failed eh? |
| 08:22.33 | ChoHag | Well that tells me *everything* I need to diagnose this problem. |
| 08:23.15 | ChoHag | I swear to god every single fucking application this place has chosen is the worst choice out of a range of godawful open source choices. |
| 08:24.13 | ChoHag | No docs? Check. No useful logs? Check. Log to file which isn't logrotated? Check. Broken init scripts? Flakey networking? Buggy SSL? |
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| 08:59.08 | yaMatt | yes, but they market it well to the managers who bought it |
| 08:59.16 | yaMatt | that's why it gets chosen |
| 09:10.32 | ChoHag | Oh I forgot. |
| 09:11.05 | ChoHag | Comically bad hippy/engineer marketing that makes microsoft's marketing department look like gods? Check. |
| 09:11.18 | ChoHag | It's not been chosen by a manager. |
| 09:11.26 | ChoHag | It's been chosen by the rockstar developer. |
| 09:22.54 | yaMatt | ah, of course |
| 09:23.03 | yaMatt | the other evil |
| 09:32.41 | ChoHag | In other news, your nerves transmit electricity chemicaly. This has been freaking me out since I found about about 6 months ago. My head refuses to accept it. |
| 09:33.37 | ChoHag | Rather than moving electrons, it moves ions back and forth across a membrane to fiddle the voltage. |
| 09:33.44 | ChoHag | IT'S TOO WEIRD. |
| 09:42.35 | yaMatt | heheh, I seem to remember learning something like that in biology |
| 09:42.42 | yaMatt | I try not to think about it too much |
| 09:44.39 | wethrin | ChoHag: Is that any weirder than the piezo-electric effect? |
| 09:45.13 | ChoHag | Lots of things are weird but I don't understand most of them. |
| 09:45.15 | ChoHag | This one I do. |
| 09:48.30 | wethrin | You're actually talking about within the nerve cell itself, rather than between the cells? |
| 09:48.39 | ChoHag | Both. |
| 09:48.58 | ChoHag | Although naturally they're both weird differently. |
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| 10:37.49 | samwho | *waves at gllug* |
| 10:38.59 | yaMatt | hello |
| 10:39.34 | samwho | I've just moved to London and I'm hoping to be at the meet up on the 11th :) |
| 10:39.40 | AndyMillar | hai |
| 10:39.48 | AndyMillar | there's a meet up on the 11th |
| 10:39.51 | AndyMillar | wonders where he is then |
| 10:42.51 | yaMatt | samwho, excellent :) |
| 10:43.17 | samwho | The big city is a little intimidating so I'm hoping to meet some friendly faces. |
| 10:44.03 | yaMatt | hahah, well I'll be there |
| 10:44.11 | yaMatt | can't guarentee about the rest of them |
| 10:46.27 | samwho | yaMatt: Awesome! I'm looking forward to it. |
| 10:49.04 | yaMatt | me too, I hope we get a good turn out, but having people turn up here out of the blue is a good sign |
| 10:49.21 | yaMatt | next meet I promise won't be any where near a holiday |
| 10:49.28 | samwho | Just moved to the city a few days ago. Where I came from there were no user groups for anything. |
| 10:49.40 | samwho | So this will be my first user group. |
| 10:49.59 | samwho | So are you the organiser, yaMatt? |
| 10:50.18 | yaMatt | of this and the last, yes |
| 10:50.32 | samwho | Well, thank you for the excellent timing :p |
| 10:50.45 | yaMatt | London has an insane number of groups for different things, it's kind of difficult to get people interested in a new one |
| 10:51.09 | yaMatt | the place this one is at has a Perl and PHP meet in the previous week |
| 10:51.19 | yaMatt | samwho, where did you move from? |
| 10:51.30 | samwho | Never got into Perl but I've done a fair amount of PHP in the past. |
| 10:51.49 | yaMatt | this is the best meet though ;) |
| 10:51.51 | samwho | North Wales. I studied my degree in South Wales. Only graduated a few weeks ago :) |
| 10:51.56 | samwho | Hah! I bet. |
| 10:52.22 | yaMatt | ah, cool, in Aberistwith? (my knowledge of Wales is pretty poor) |
| 10:52.29 | samwho | Nah, Glamorgan. |
| 10:52.46 | samwho | Veeeery south. |
| 10:54.05 | yaMatt | ah, ok, I know a guy who has just finished at Aberystwyth uni and has just started at Google |
| 10:54.12 | samwho | Woah. |
| 10:54.46 | yaMatt | lucky bastard :D |
| 10:55.08 | samwho | Totally. |
| 10:55.19 | samwho | I'm working with Forward, I don't imagine you've heard of them. |
| 10:56.37 | yaMatt | can't say I have |
| 10:57.04 | samwho | Based in Camden. They seem like a really cool company to work for. I'm starting tomorrow, should be a laugh. |
| 10:57.36 | yaMatt | it's good you've got any work really, a lot of grads I'm in contact with are finding it really tough to get jobs, or have been in the last 2 years |
| 10:57.52 | yaMatt | Camden is a pretty cool area to work |
| 10:57.56 | samwho | That seems to be the consensus at the moment. |
| 10:58.15 | samwho | I was friends with lots of Computer Security people and they got into grad schemes with people like Logica and GCHQ. |
| 10:58.20 | samwho | Neither of which interest me in the slightest. |
| 10:58.31 | yaMatt | hahah, I work for Logica and I have friends in GCHQ |
| 10:58.40 | yaMatt | I don't blame you really |
| 10:58.50 | samwho | Hah! You may meet some of the people I was friends with at Uni ^_^ |
| 10:59.06 | samwho | It's just not a field I think I'd thrive in. |
| 10:59.16 | yaMatt | that's possible, though I work client site so I don't see the guys often sadly |
| 10:59.54 | samwho | They did a lot of courtroom stuff. |
| 11:00.07 | samwho | I just wanted to write code. |
| 11:04.45 | yaMatt | yeah, fair enough |
| 11:04.52 | yaMatt | what do Forward do then? |
| 11:05.26 | yaMatt | obviously not your typical Silicon Roundabout type company |
| 11:05.43 | samwho | They own uSwitch |
| 11:05.49 | samwho | They own a lot of different companies... |
| 11:06.01 | yaMatt | oh right |
| 11:06.07 | samwho | They're primarily doing web stuff. Lots of different technologies from what I remember in the interview. |
| 11:06.14 | samwho | From PHP to Ruby to Clojure |
| 11:08.02 | yaMatt | I guess they must do a fair amount of server to server comms too |
| 11:08.19 | samwho | I'd be surprised if they didn't :) |
| 11:10.22 | yaMatt | I always wondered if they did a lot of screen scraping or they had actual protocol specs |
| 11:10.40 | samwho | You would hope for the latter. |
| 11:10.48 | samwho | Screen scraping is a nightmare. |
| 11:11.00 | yaMatt | yeah, it's definitely not fun |
| 11:16.16 | samwho | yaMatt: So, I guess this is a common question in LUGs: Which distro do you run? :) |
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| 11:28.38 | dick_turpin | New game for Twitter users called 'Account Smackdown' see how long you can stay on line by sending hurtful tweets to someone. Extra points if your front door gets kicked in by your local friendly bobby. |
| 12:20.30 | w1bble | good game :) |
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