IRC log for #gllug on 20130108

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00:29.33ChoHaghttp://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/6269523_460s_v1.jpg
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09:10.01cityLightshi
09:10.30cityLightsI am about to install a new file server for home
09:11.23cityLightsI first build a raid-1 and no lvm, then i figured I need lvm to enforce the download,video wont "eat-up" all space
09:11.31cityLightsis there any other way?
09:17.58wethrinZFS
09:18.38yaMattI would recommend ZFS but it's license is incompatible with Linux so you have to install it at the user level
09:19.15yaMattyou could go with a BSD based OS if you want to build it yourself or I would recommend FreeNAS
09:19.47wethrinNo, no you don't. Not any more, fortunately :)
09:19.57wethrinZFS on Linux is a kernel module, but not bundled with the kernel
09:19.59cityLightshi wethrin: long time no see
09:20.05wethrinhi
09:20.06cityLightssay are you going to FOSDEM?
09:20.17wethrinI'm going to be there on the Saturday
09:20.27yaMattwethrin, ah, that's handy
09:20.46yaMattI think BTRFS is supposed to have the equivalent of ZFS, but not sure if it has all the awesome features
09:21.28cityLightswethrin, so you need one partition to boot from ext3 and then another for zfs?
09:21.51cityLightsas far as I understand BTRFS isnt mature yet
09:23.05yaMattthere is that problem too, people keep saying it is, but just the doubt is enough to warn people off, you could say the same about EXT4 but people use that
09:25.08yaMatthmm... although it seems BTRFS doesn't yet have a stable release
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09:51.30yaMattzfsonlinux.org does not make things look easy
10:01.16ChoHagIt is.
10:01.45ChoHagBefore I compiles the spl and zfs packages on Debian, now I use an Ubuntu PPA. Both work without any fuss.
10:02.16ChoHagAs they're redhat packages which work flawlessly on Debian, I suspect they work fairly well on Redhat too.
10:03.35ChoHagI didn't do root on zfs though. I'll stick with lvm and ext for that.
10:04.09ChoHagAt least until it's as well integrated as in Freebsd and Solaris.
10:09.39yaMattyeah, the PPA does look easy, but what is the SPL version?
10:09.57yaMatts/does look/is
10:11.41wethrincityLights: I think that would be the safest option, yes
10:12.12wethrinzfsonlinux is actually quite easy. It's pretty much a compile, make install, and you're away
10:12.42yaMattbut there's this spl release
10:13.04yaMattas well as documentation for ZVOL and ZPIOS
10:14.04cityLightshmm, ok, Ill try this
10:14.35cityLightsas for wethrin, Is there anything to look forward to in FOSDEM?
10:14.53cityLightsseems less packed as it used to be
10:16.21yaMattthe new site design is very pretty
10:17.38wethrincityLights: I don't know - I've not been for a few years now
10:18.06cityLightsme too, but the trip is not so expensive...
10:18.16cityLightsare you taking a Hotel?
10:19.03yaMattna, I'm using the ones there
10:20.17yaMattoo... a Wine track, could be interesting
10:21.14ChoHagSPL is some linux <-> solaris api layer.
10:21.41ChoHagThink of it as fitting on your system alongside libc and friends. Or klibc perhaps.
10:22.04ChoHagIt probably doesn't, but conceptually it's about right.
10:23.05yaMattso it's like zfs sitting on a api translation layer?
10:23.24yaMattor it is the translation layer
10:24.11wethrinYes, I've got a hotel booked. Ibis St. Catherine
10:24.26yaMattah, same as mine
10:24.39wethrinooh yay
10:24.47wethrinAre you going on the Friday night beer event?
10:25.17yaMattyeah, I'll be there on Friday
10:25.20wethrinExcellent
10:25.26wethrinAre you Eurostarring? If so, which one?
10:25.27yaMattI wasn't able to last year so I'm going to make up for it this year
10:25.29yaMattyup
10:26.00yaMattI've got the 1404 from St Pancras
10:26.04wethrinAh
10:26.06wethrinI'm on the 1504
10:27.57yaMattit does excite me that people are all working separately to go to the same event
10:28.18yaMattI'm wondering about GLLUG drinks on the 31st as FOSDEM pre-drinks
10:28.24yaMattheh, in Belgo
10:31.43wethrinI'm only coming from Durham on the 1st itself
10:32.48wethrinWe used to have quite a nicely organised social outing to FOSDEM some years back - arranged the same E*s, and the same accommodation between a number of people
10:32.59wethrinThis was before I moved up to Durham, though
10:34.53yaMattyeah, I imagine most people will be going through London on the day but maybe we can catch some people who are staying the night too
10:35.18yaMattshould be good to meet up with people before hand though
10:43.58wethrinyeah
11:21.53yaMatthahah, reading the fosdem beer event page, it's pretty funny
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13:03.32morsingcityLights!
13:03.35morsingdick_turpin!
13:03.37morsingfunkyHat!
13:03.42morsing~seen trousers
13:03.43ibotmorsing: i haven't seen 'trousers'
13:19.57morsingwethrin: What's for tea?
13:20.19wethrinJust a sandwich and cheesecake
13:24.41dick_turpinCheesecake? A cake made of cheese? Ya dirty bastid
13:24.50morsingBeer
13:24.53morsingPIE
13:29.14wethrinCHEESE!
13:39.38morsingwethrin: How's Jenny?
13:42.33dick_turpinGarlic bread
13:44.00wethrinShe's good. Still living in Crawley
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17:18.07funkyHatHello morsing ⡈)
17:21.38morsingHi
17:21.41morsingcityLights!
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