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| 07:44.09 | yaMatt | wethrin, I don't think he has a problem with me, but I find him a bit difficult to get along with |
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| 09:34.39 | yaMatt | jQuery conference up in Oxford on April 19th |
| 09:34.53 | yaMatt | feel it's a bit too far to go and a bit expensive to get in |
| 09:34.59 | yaMatt | especially considering the sponsors |
| 09:35.14 | yaMatt | the talks better bloody blow your head off |
| 09:35.18 | wethrin | Get your employer to pay |
| 09:36.06 | Nafallo | get wethrin's employer to pay |
| 09:36.12 | yaMatt | yeah, I guess that's what you're banking on |
| 09:36.18 | yaMatt | Nafallo, hahah, perfect |
| 09:36.28 | yaMatt | they're banking on, rather |
| 09:38.57 | yaMatt | uk government so they're happy to send me on management courses, but technical lectures... "well... you know, it's difficult. Will you really use it? Couldn't you do something free instead?" |
| 09:40.02 | gregj | lol |
| 09:40.09 | gregj | and yet they pay google for services, which are shite |
| 09:40.12 | gregj | go figure :-0 |
| 09:40.33 | yaMatt | they pay google now? |
| 09:40.53 | gregj | dunno, you mentinoed something about google fucking up |
| 09:41.00 | gregj | thought it was related |
| 09:41.20 | gregj | besides, jquery, I mean seriously, what's there to have conference about |
| 09:41.25 | gregj | 'its shit, everyone go home) |
| 09:42.03 | yaMatt | oh, na, that's just LUG stuff |
| 09:42.17 | gregj | oh |
| 09:42.30 | yaMatt | they did get back to me, turns out the contact I had in Mozilla has left and the contact I had in Google has left |
| 09:42.48 | gregj | and you care because ? |
| 09:42.56 | gregj | you pay, it should work :-) |
| 09:43.06 | yaMatt | I like jQuery but the whole model is definitely a hack |
| 09:43.15 | yaMatt | it's a shame about the Mozilla guys, they're good people |
| 09:43.16 | gregj | whole web 2.0 is a hack |
| 09:43.23 | yaMatt | Google just get on my nerves |
| 09:43.28 | gregj | altho it got much better with css |
| 09:43.32 | yaMatt | they have a bit of a high and mighty attitude |
| 09:44.30 | gregj | google is evil, for quite a while now |
| 09:44.47 | wethrin | My employer won't pay! |
| 09:44.49 | gregj | anyone with that amount of power and information is bound to go roug |
| 09:45.04 | yaMatt | certainly eventually |
| 09:49.53 | gregj | plus they employ tons of useless people |
| 09:50.14 | gregj | and take off the market people who used to contribute a lot, but now they are pretty much spoiled to work for this big corporation |
| 09:50.23 | gregj | no amount of good can come out of this |
| 09:50.28 | yaMatt | that's a fair point |
| 09:50.41 | gregj | I know opensource folk loves google, but this is just a PR stunt |
| 09:51.49 | wethrin | RedHat at least makes people contribute to Linux |
| 09:52.17 | yaMatt | so they do give a lot back to linux and FOSS but Google does have that privacy side which should be viewed with a healthy amount of distrust |
| 09:52.32 | wethrin | What privacy? :) |
| 09:52.39 | yaMatt | but if they want to give us free stuff, why not? Doesn't mean we have to trust them |
| 09:52.46 | yaMatt | wethrin, well, lack of |
| 09:53.25 | gregj | that's the problem with people, they get some free stuff, and forget about everything else |
| 09:53.34 | gregj | to me google are nto doing much good, and are pretty much economical trolls |
| 09:55.26 | AndyMillar | hmm, apprently we're hiring again |
| 09:56.48 | gregj | good for you's |
| 09:58.14 | yaMatt | AndyMillar, where? |
| 09:58.28 | yaMatt | gregj, I kind of see what you mean, but they can't hire everyone |
| 09:59.29 | yaMatt | but I do see that they do have an interest in hiring good people just to keep them on the market, but then you're moving in to conspiracy theories |
| 09:59.46 | yaMatt | I've not met anyone who works there who doesn't work their ass off |
| 10:01.43 | gregj | they can't hire me, they tried, but I resisted |
| 10:01.59 | gregj | it's not a conspiracy theory |
| 10:02.04 | gregj | it is simple fact |
| 10:02.15 | gregj | of course they will use people for their own business needs, that's what employment is about |
| 10:02.49 | gregj | and mixing up the argument that they release some stuff for free is not really working |
| 10:02.50 | AndyMillar | yaMatt: West London, one junior windows/linux admin and one senior Linux admin |
| 10:03.38 | yaMatt | think I need to sort out the mailing list properly so we have an announcements list for stuff like that |
| 10:04.47 | wethrin | There is an -announce mailing list |
| 10:04.49 | wethrin | Oh, no |
| 10:04.51 | wethrin | There was one |
| 10:05.01 | wethrin | Until Jason failed to get the list server running again |
| 10:07.31 | yaMatt | yup, exactly, this list was a place holder until I could work out what was happening with the old one |
| 10:07.38 | yaMatt | Jason has even used the new list apparently |
| 10:08.00 | yaMatt | probably about time it became a bit more perminent |
| 10:08.53 | yaMatt | I don't want to separate it out too much though, it gets more confusing to people unafamiliar with mailing lists |
| 10:09.05 | yaMatt | AndyMillar, good to see some places advertising senior linux roles |
| 10:12.57 | AndyMillar | I'll probably mail t'list once I've got an actual job spec |
| 10:36.28 | yaMatt | suggestions for a collective noun of linux people: either a root, or a beard, any more? |
| 10:37.20 | wethrin | A sandal? |
| 10:37.26 | wethrin | cabal |
| 10:37.41 | wethrin | A tedium, if they're like Richard Stallman |
| 10:37.45 | yaMatt | hahah |
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| 21:11.22 | ChoHag | Firefighters were called to a high rise block of flats on Webber Street in Southwark just after 3am this morning after neighbours reported seeing smoke from a downstairs balcony. Crews found a barbecue which had burnt through timber decking and started a small fire. |
| 21:11.32 | ChoHag | 04 April 2013 |
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| 21:34.58 | ChoHag | What's the cheapest form of removable storage these days for sheer size? |
| 21:41.42 | wethrin | External hard drive |
| 21:43.08 | ChoHag | Is it practical to backup to? |
| 21:43.54 | ChoHag | I'm considering the merits of something that sort of (physical) size compared to, say, a box full of SD cards. |
| 21:45.40 | wethrin | Sure, why not |
| 21:53.42 | gregj | i.imgur.com/Un2nFHx.jpg |
| 21:53.52 | gregj | the new bluescreen |
| 22:22.15 | ChoHag | but but but |
| 22:56.16 | gregj | ;] |
| 22:56.17 | gregj | no buts |
| 22:56.23 | gregj | this is probably hardware that's faulty |