IRC log for #gllug on 20130429

06:23.34morsingLeeds!
06:23.55morsingz00dax: Fido is pretty much dead
06:24.13morsingThink there are a few hardcore users left, but what's the point?
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09:43.49ChoHagI have more free and/or wasted RAM in a case haphazardly strewn over the desk than existed when I was born.
09:43.57ChoHagMost of what is in use, is in use by Chrome.
09:50.37yaMattheheh
09:50.41yaMattit is a bit of a memory beast
09:50.47yaMattor has become a memory beast
09:50.56yaMattpeople used to complain about Fx being a memory beast
09:56.09w1bbleo_O
09:56.16w1bbleback in teh day
11:03.22z00daxmorsing: you mean the adsl provider or the bbs fidonet thing
11:14.18ChoHagThe system rescue CD's default shell is zsh.
11:14.24ChoHagJust what you need when you're trying to fix an emergency - the tool with which you interact to be subtly different in non-obvious ways to the tool with which you are experienced.
11:19.50yaMattheheh
11:24.25mindbenderi've never understood the difference between those shells
11:24.32mindbenderI only use ls, rm, fsck
11:24.42mindbenderthat's what sysadmin is about.
11:24.57mindbenderif you need a better shell, surely, you must be doing something wrong.
11:39.37ChoHagThere is very little practical difference.
11:40.40ChoHagBut when it's dark o'clock and you have 3 hours to get the entire storage system back up before everybody starts working and you're running on 18 hours of looking after a toddler, very little looms very large.
11:41.30ChoHagOh and you ended up not sleeping much the night before because you started hacking on something and forgot about the time and what does it matter because it's the weekend and nobody breaks things on the weekend.
11:42.22ChoHagThe first difference likely to bite you here are the interactive ones - zsh completes differently and the word-movement keystrokes react differently.
11:42.54ChoHagEspecially helpful when you're queueing keystrokes over n agonisingly slow and unreliable layers of console connection.
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11:54.26morsingz00dax: ?
12:11.00ChoHagGod damn this house.
12:11.48ChoHagI am 6'2". The ceiling ranges from about 5'8" to 6'4" above the floor. Doorways are shorter.
12:12.54ChoHagI think the piece of wood which holds up the ceiling at the bottom of the stairs is quite possible the hardest piece of wood I have ever seen.
12:12.57ChoHagOr felt.
12:17.52z00daxmorsing: sorry, i meant - is that about the ISP called fido.net or the old bbs network fidonet
12:18.07z00daxmorsing: i was actually surprised to find an ISP in london called fido.net
12:27.11morsing... Sounds like a doomed ISP
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13:01.10mindbenderChoHag: well, that's why you don't sit on a computer unless you're gonna play computer games on a weekend. Who hacks stuff in the weekend anymore? People get paid for these stuff nowadays during the week.
13:01.44mindbenderChoHag: I could understand If It was 10 years ago and you were quite enthusiastic about learning the WWW and trying to find a way to have free access to pr0n.
13:01.56ChoHagIt's called 'having fun'.
13:02.11ChoHagI like programming, have ideas for various projects, and sometimes get time to work on them.
13:02.12mindbenderPersonally, I spent the time you spent on hacking on a house party
13:02.21mindbenderIt sucked tho
13:02.25mindbenderI'm sure you had more fun than I had
13:02.41ChoHagExcept that time I was forced to socialise at another party, yeah.
13:02.52mindbenderhuh?
13:03.01mindbenderwho socialises nowadays? we've got FB.
13:03.15ChoHagYou do? I don't.
13:03.16mindbenderIt's hard to be asocial afterall
13:03.37mindbenderChoHag: that's the place I can keep a tab of the girls. You're married, you don't need FB.
13:07.43mindbenderChoHag: are you going to spending the bank hol. weekend with hacking?
13:07.46mindbender*be spending
13:07.57ChoHagshrugs
13:09.37ChoHagIf I have time to kill I might.
13:18.45morsingKill who?
13:19.05mindbenderthe process.
13:19.21mindbendermorsing: what are you up to in the bank holiday weekend?
13:19.28mindbendermorsing: surely, It must be something very very interesting.
13:19.34mindbendermorsing: please, share with us.
13:21.54mindbenderI had 2 of my wisdom teeth taken out on Thursday, I strongly not recommend anyone to go through that
13:22.07mindbenderjust stick to antibiotics and painkillers, It's not worth it.
13:22.24mindbenderI should have figured that out when NHS decided not to do it.
13:30.24morsingmindbender: Working
13:30.33morsingWhy interesting?
13:30.39ChoHagIf they decided not to, why did you get it done anyway?
13:35.29mindbenderChoHag: they said, if you get an infection again, we'll consider doing it
13:36.15mindbenderthey were like, If it repeats every now and than yeah, we'll do it, in the meantime here's some antibiotics,  so I had an infection again but didn't wanna go through the whole NHS process, so I just paid up for it to the dentist
13:36.45mindbenderbesides NHS wanted to put me in sleep whereas the dentist suggested that he'd do it with local anesthesia
13:36.59mindbenderI figured NHS don't wanna spend money on these stuff.
13:37.35mindbenderIt's been aching for a month, It was quite depressive, It's still depressive tho.
13:37.54mindbenderHi My name is mindbender, yes, I am depressed and I have my wisdom teeth taken out.
13:38.11mindbendermorsing: because you are an interesting man.
14:00.18morsingI am?
14:07.13dick_turpinmindbender: Are you on drugs?
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14:14.39mindbenderdick_turpin: yeah
14:14.58mindbenderdick_turpin: nurofen + penicilin + coca-cola
14:18.00dick_turpinNo wonder morsing appears interesting to you.
14:35.28mindbenderdick_turpin: why?
14:49.00dick_turpinmindbender: Clearly you are drugged up to your eyeballs. Toe nail crud is more interesting than morsing
14:51.31mindbenderdick_turpin: but he's a bit strange, don't we all agree on that?
15:01.19dick_turpinA bit?
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19:11.43morsingzzz
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