IRC log for #gllug on 20130507

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10:24.36mindbendermorsing!
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10:46.32morsingmindbender!
10:46.34morsingw1bble!
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12:40.48ChoHagWhat are the standard questions interviewers ask to 'prove' you know tcp/ip?
12:40.56ChoHagDescribe the handshake, obviously.
12:41.26dick_turpinWhat does tcp and ip stand for? :-P
12:41.46ChoHagI think if they ask that I might just hang up.
12:43.29ChoHagI find most questions they ask these days are a variation on "of the facts which can be found through a quick internet search, does the subset which you happen to remember include <this>?"
12:44.46ChoHagOr the utterly benign "describe how you would fix a fault with the web page"
12:45.53morsingArmand!
12:45.54morsingdick_turpin!
12:46.02Armandmorsing!
12:46.32morsingChoHag: I used to be asked "How do you stop TCP/IP" and the "Correct" answer apparently was "You stop inetd"
12:47.03ChoHagGod I hate those.
12:47.39ChoHag"How do you do <thing which doesn't even sound coherent unless you misunderstand technology exactly like I do>?"
12:48.20dick_turpinmorsing: bd
12:50.14dick_turpinI know someone who went for an interview and the question was "Which is more important, the CEO's desktop wallpaper. Or, a network outage?"
12:50.45ArmandChoHag, at my interview they asked if I knew what CIDR was.. not to explain it. :)
12:51.49ArmandI gave a very brief explanation, as I haven't used it as yet.
12:52.29dick_turpinThe answer, if you can believe it, was the desktop wallpaper!
12:52.35morsingdick_turpin: I would have said "From the board's point of view, or the CEO's?"
12:52.35dick_turpinApparently
12:53.08yaMattGoogle's questions for me were surprisingly mundane
12:53.31morsingyaMatt: Maybe they went by your reputation?
12:53.51ChoHagKeeping the CEO happy may be persuant to keeping the job which as sysadmin is likely to be best for the company in the long run than a run-of-the-mill network outage.
12:53.58yaMattthings along the line of: describe the 3 messages of a tcp handshake
12:54.01ChoHags/best/better/
12:55.54ChoHagThat is an awful use of the word persuant.
12:56.20yaMattits ok, I don't even know what it means
12:56.34yaMattmentally I just replaced it with the word "badger"
13:04.58dick_turpinyaMatt: Bwahahaha
13:05.23dick_turpinyaMatt: Bastard! You made me laugh out loud
13:06.08mindbenderChoHag: what port ping/traceroute uses, I got asked that
13:06.19ChoHagDepends.
13:06.19mindbenderChoHag: difference between tcp/udp
13:06.27ChoHagThere are many ways those traces can be run.
13:06.41mindbenderChoHag: DNS using udp vs tcp another one I had
13:07.02jpdsmindbender: Now, what do TCP and UDP have in common?
13:07.31mindbenderjpds: in general ?
13:07.43jpdsThat's a more interesting interview question.
13:07.49mindbenderjpds: they deliver packets?
13:07.59mindbenderjpds: surely, you can't deny that when I was it this way.
13:08.06mindbender*I answer it this way
13:08.40morsingWhat port ping uses...
13:09.48mindbenderbeen asked a fork bomb as well, but It was supposed to be funy.
13:09.49mindbenderfunny
13:13.07ChoHagBeing able to detect a fork bomb is useful.
13:13.12ChoHagPrior to running it I mean.
13:13.15ChoHagAnd other such things.
13:15.59mindbenderI rather be on holiday.
13:16.29mindbenderwhich I will be soon enough to be fair.
13:21.03mindbendermorsing: yeah, it's port 25, isn't it ?
13:28.35morsingmindbender: ...? Seriously?
13:37.59mindbendermorsing: maybe you're getting dumber afterall
13:46.50dick_turpinBwahahahaha
13:58.08morsingdick_turpin: How's Sharon?
14:02.54dick_turpinI suspect kidnapped by well hung Himalayas
14:06.03ChoHagThe only question I got asked was how to make the load balancer redundant.
14:06.20ChoHagWhich nobody else got.
14:10.08morsingHimalayas?
14:12.09mindbenderhuh
14:17.31morsingWell hung Himalayas... The Himalayas point up, more than hanging down...
14:46.50dick_turpinNot if you live in Australia
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