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| 10:20.13 | unixdaemon | Hello, does Frank scott ever come on here? |
| 10:24.10 | morsing | No, never has |
| 10:24.43 | unixdaemon | morsing: has he been active recently? He wasn't at fosdem this year and I've not spoken to him for a while |
| 10:28.07 | morsing | unixdaemon: It's been a couple of years (maybe 5?) since I last saw him |
| 10:28.19 | morsing | I think he's posted on the list this year, hasn't he? |
| 10:28.37 | unixdaemon | Not that I saw in the archives |
| 10:28.57 | unixdaemon | Thanks for the sounding board |
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| 10:29.03 | morsing | Dec 30th on the Social list |
| 10:29.08 | morsing | WTF - idiot |
| 10:30.17 | morsing | wow - lol! Social list is dead too :) |
| 11:03.45 | wethrin | That's Jason's fault |
| 11:04.22 | wethrin | He never recovered the Gllug list server after the last system failure |
| 11:04.31 | wethrin | Which is why Gllug is now hosted on mailman.lug.org.uk |
| 11:05.06 | wethrin | But Martin could only add the addresses of people who posted to Gllug, not lurkers |
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| 11:15.09 | dick_turpin | morsing: Are you Charon? |
| 11:54.25 | morsing | wethrin: Martin has issues, don't know why he was ever made responsible for anything |
| 11:54.41 | morsing | dick_turpin: No, are you braindead? |
| 11:56.01 | wethrin | morsing: No one else volunteered to run a backup list? |
| 12:00.00 | dick_turpin | morsing: So you cant ferry me across the river Styx then? |
| 12:02.15 | morsing | dick_turpin: No |
| 12:04.28 | dick_turpin | Some friend you are. |
| 12:20.39 | gregj | AndyMillar: testing the ssds here with the raid server, turns out - ssds are quite slow in raid 1 hardware, but very very fast in raid0. go figure |
| 12:21.55 | wethrin | What about raid5? |
| 12:23.33 | AndyMillar | gregj: do you have other SSDs to experiment with? |
| 12:23.45 | wethrin | and is this reading or writing? |
| 12:26.09 | gregj | AndyMillar: they don't want to buy any more ssds for now |
| 12:26.38 | gregj | AndyMillar: even tho the testing have shown, that database speed wise - single server with two ssds in raid 0 beats two db servers with spinning drives in cluster, by mile and something |
| 12:26.53 | gregj | wethrin: I would need 3+ drives for raid5 |
| 12:26.55 | gregj | I only got two |
| 12:27.03 | gregj | cos the idea was to use them for caching |
| 12:27.14 | gregj | at least initially |
| 12:27.26 | gregj | but that was so so, and cache size was as bit as the spinning drives size |
| 12:27.28 | gregj | so what's the point |
| 12:28.22 | wethrin | More RAM, and ramdisk |
| 12:28.24 | wethrin | Simple! :) |
| 12:28.54 | gregj | it's a database |
| 12:28.57 | gregj | there's loads fo writes |
| 12:29.02 | gregj | and you want some resilance ;) |
| 12:34.13 | wethrin | RAIDed RAMdisks? |
| 12:34.15 | wethrin | And a UPS |
| 12:34.28 | gregj | my accountant: 'I see some expenses in London, but no travel costs to and from london (I live in belfast)' |
| 12:34.36 | gregj | good man, it's essential to employ pros |
| 12:34.53 | gregj | wethrin: right :-) |
| 12:45.00 | dick_turpin | gregj: You should have got some flight tickets from the bins at heathrow for every day and claimed it all back from the tax man |
| 12:45.28 | dick_turpin | Not that I'm encouraging fraud by the way. :-) |
| 12:47.43 | gregj | http://invaleed.wordpress.com/2006/07/10/install-and-configure-djbdns/ nice CSS |
| 12:48.02 | gregj | dick_turpin: I need to have the expense on my bank account too, so that wouldn't work |
| 12:48.11 | gregj | dick_turpin: of course not ;) |
| 12:53.48 | dick_turpin | produces statements from the "Whizzo bank of Irishland" with the relevant transactions |
| 12:57.02 | gregj | ;] |
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| 13:05.33 | gregj | what other simple to hacking (source code wise), apart from bind - dns servers woudl you guys recommend ? |
| 13:07.24 | gregj | first of all, why on earth dns servers are always so complicated.. |
| 13:11.01 | morsing | gregj: SIP |
| 13:11.04 | morsing | z00dax! |
| 13:11.25 | z00dax | morsing: check it |
| 13:12.15 | gregj | morsing: SIP is far simpler ;> |
| 13:12.33 | gregj | as an added bonus, dns protocol is actually used for more things then just domain name resolution |
| 13:12.57 | z00dax | gregj: https://speakerdeck.com/jpmens/multiple-choice-dns-servers-on-centos |
| 13:13.12 | morsing | gregj: NIS? |
| 13:13.22 | z00dax | gregj: apart from a few slides, that isnt CentOS specific - but its a great overview of the state of DNS servers |
| 13:13.24 | morsing | gregj: upnp? |
| 13:13.41 | morsing | appears to love UDP protocols... |
| 13:14.12 | gregj | morsing: :-) |
| 13:14.22 | gregj | it is also used in voip to resolve routes |
| 13:14.38 | gregj | (can't remember name of the protocol, even tho I implemented it once for one of my startups) |
| 13:15.39 | gregj | lol, bind 10 |
| 13:16.07 | morsing | gregj: What protocol can't you remember? |
| 13:16.29 | gregj | if I could I would tell you, doh |
| 13:16.38 | morsing | What does it do? |
| 13:16.53 | z00dax | I could tell you a UDP joke, but you may not get it |
| 13:17.08 | z00dax | https://twitter.com/superninjarobot/status/339543840719503360 |
| 13:17.14 | gregj | you give it a number, and ti give you termination + route |
| 13:17.18 | gregj | for voip call |
| 13:17.23 | morsing | gregj: SIP? |
| 13:17.25 | gregj | I implemented it using bind 8 + postgresql 8.1 |
| 13:17.37 | gregj | required some indepth hacking of bind |
| 13:17.43 | gregj | sip is for something else |
| 13:17.48 | morsing | ... |
| 13:18.42 | gregj | this is a protocl that is used internally |
| 13:18.56 | gregj | you as a client don't have to implement it |
| 13:19.03 | gregj | fsck, can't remember |
| 13:19.08 | gregj | it's been a while, 2005 or so |
| 13:19.55 | morsing | ... It's SIP, honestly |
| 13:21.07 | gregj | hmm |
| 13:21.15 | gregj | I used to know a lot about voip |
| 13:21.23 | gregj | and as far as I remember, it wasnt sip |
| 13:21.25 | gregj | but maybe |
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| 19:06.20 | morsing | Armand! |
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