IRC log for #gllug on 20130709

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07:18.59ChoHag*poke* What is this weird thing?
07:19.09ChoHag*poke* *poke* It does everything in the opposite way to everything else.
07:19.11ChoHag...
07:19.15ChoHagOhhhhhh! It's a DJB.
07:19.55ChoHagFucking Dan Fucking Bernstein. Dear god what a horrible specimen.
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08:17.48wethrinBut it's secure!
08:35.30ChoHagUnusable is quite secure.
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10:19.41*** topic/#gllug is Greater London LUG | Next meeting: TBA | http://www.gllug.org.uk
10:49.37halibecause people generally dont give a shit?
10:49.50haliim happy using an @gmail.com address, i dont use it for business
10:56.06morsingWeirdo - People are just odd, so rather be john16622@gmail.com than john@wilson.net
10:56.25morsingThis is why the world is in the state it is
12:31.25wethrinBut you still need something to handle mail for wilson.net
12:32.54AndyMillarmorsing: hold on, do we agree on something?
12:33.37AndyMillarthough to answer your question... 1. they don't know that they can; and 2. they don't know how :(
12:42.35morsingAndyMillar: Absolutely
12:42.47morsingwethrin: No, you don't, that's the whole point
12:42.56wethrinYes you do
12:43.15wethrinEven if you point the mx records at gmail.com and get Google to handle it
12:43.18morsingNo, you don't
12:43.32wethrinYes. Because if you have no mx records, you're not going to be handling mail
12:43.34morsingWTF?! You're just being daft now
12:43.54wethrinHow would you handle email, then?
12:43.55AndyMillarwethrin: not true
12:44.03AndyMillarMX records are not required for working mail delivery
12:44.05wethrinAndyMillar: Using A records is Not The Right Way
12:44.19AndyMillarit's valid though :)
12:44.36wethrinSure, and McDonald's is valid food ;-)
12:44.36morsingOk, WTF seriously?!?!?! gmail needs MX records just as well as everyone else do. What a dumb argument to start.
12:44.46morsingCompletely irrelevant to the discussion
12:44.50wethrinmorsing: You've misinterpreted my point
12:44.57morsingNo, I haven't
12:44.59wethrinYes you have
12:45.06morsing*sigh*  Goodbye
12:45.06wethrinUtterly and completely
12:58.11AndyMillarthere was a point?
13:03.14wethrinYes, which was if you have a domain that you want receive email at, you need to have some mail server for it to point at
13:03.42wethrinWhether you run that yourself, or if you're using Google's mail hosting magic
13:08.13wethrinIf you register a domain, it won't magically handle mail until you set it up
14:29.36gregjit is bit sad, when manager sits next to you, and thinks you can't hear him because of headphones, and says someone that you are not so good and too expensive
14:29.42gregjfffffing bitch!
14:30.24gregjs/him/her/
14:31.38morsinggregj: Time to leave anyway, I think
14:35.59AndyMillarheh
14:36.07gregjit's a contract
14:36.11gregjso f her
14:36.13AndyMillargregj: "meh", if they don't think you're too expensive you're not charging enough
14:36.24gregjI'm charging £320 pd
14:36.31AndyMillaryou're not charging enough :)
14:36.32gregjif they think that's expensive, ....
14:36.41gregjbut that's not in greater london
14:38.22AndyMillarah, where is it?
14:40.40morsinggregj: You need to charge more
17:11.54ChoHag"It took me a while to convince business to move to Exchange. Never looked back, other then every few years at the license renewal."
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19:03.13yaMattheheh
19:07.38morsingChoHag: Move from what, though?
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