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| 11:40.52 | ChoHag | Wasn't that last week? |
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| 11:54.47 | dick_turpin | morsing: I have sweaty thighs. :-( |
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| 12:38.30 | morsing | dick_turpin! |
| 13:32.10 | gregj | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10945050 |
| 13:34.01 | ChoHag | <Unicode> Stick 2 invisible bytes at the beginning of the file? That won't break anything. |
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| 13:47.19 | dick_turpin | ChoHag: Not on my planet we're not! Human. |
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| 18:07.01 | I-saac | Hallow! |
| 18:08.35 | yaMatt | hello |
| 18:09.03 | I-saac | I'm moving to London in August 1st. It would be nice to make new friends. |
| 18:11.56 | yaMatt | oh, ok cool |
| 18:12.04 | yaMatt | I haven't been able to get anything sorted lately :( |
| 18:12.15 | yaMatt | but there seems to be a lot of interest lately so I've got to do something |
| 18:12.38 | I-saac | About what? |
| 18:13.00 | yaMatt | a meet up |
| 18:13.03 | I-saac | Ah! |
| 18:13.31 | I-saac | Is it once per month? |
| 18:14.43 | yaMatt | that was the plan that that has slipped greatly |
| 18:16.26 | I-saac | I would probably be very quiet drinking my beer because I'm not English so I don't speak it fluently. |
| 18:16.31 | I-saac | I'm Portuguese. |
| 18:16.46 | yaMatt | oh, cool |
| 18:17.04 | yaMatt | there are a fair few non-native english speakers who attend |
| 18:17.39 | I-saac | That's nice. I wouldn't be the only one. :) |
| 18:17.53 | yaMatt | oh absolutely |
| 18:18.58 | yaMatt | you'll do fine :) |
| 18:19.15 | yaMatt | just been really bad about finding time to do stuff lately :( |
| 18:19.39 | I-saac | It's okay by me. |
| 18:20.29 | I-saac | yaMatt, do you know if I can study computers in the UK and get paid to study? |
| 18:21.04 | yaMatt | hmm... you might be able to do some kind of work placement |
| 18:21.16 | I-saac | An apprenticeship? |
| 18:21.22 | yaMatt | yeah, along those lines |
| 18:21.40 | I-saac | Hmm... I need to look that better. |
| 18:21.51 | yaMatt | the company I used to work for did a scheme for university students where they part time worked and part time studied |
| 18:22.18 | yaMatt | but I don't think they do it anymore |
| 18:22.24 | I-saac | :( |
| 18:22.36 | yaMatt | and I wouldn't recommend working there, there is a reason I don't work there any more ;) |
| 18:22.41 | I-saac | Probably there are other companies that do similar. |
| 18:23.00 | I-saac | What do you usually do with you GNU/Linux? |
| 18:23.08 | I-saac | *with your |
| 18:23.35 | yaMatt | yeah, definitely there will be others around |
| 18:24.02 | yaMatt | I do a lot of SysOp stuff lately, some development, some admin things |
| 18:24.36 | I-saac | That's awesome! |
| 18:24.41 | I-saac | I only chat lately. |
| 18:25.00 | I-saac | I've been away from my GNU/Linux. |
| 18:25.11 | I-saac | I've been on my Android tablet reading ebooks. |
| 18:27.00 | yaMatt | do you run linux at home? |
| 18:27.05 | I-saac | Yep. |
| 18:27.09 | I-saac | Sadly Ubuntu. |
| 18:27.12 | yaMatt | heheh |
| 18:27.17 | I-saac | I like ArchLinux more. |
| 18:27.29 | I-saac | But it had flickers on screen even on TTY. |
| 18:27.37 | I-saac | And Ubuntu doesn't have that. |
| 18:28.01 | yaMatt | yeah, Ubuntu does seem much more stable |
| 18:28.19 | yaMatt | I'm running Manjaro at the moment and I've had so many issues |
| 18:28.25 | I-saac | I can't upgrade it however or the flickering returns. |
| 18:28.37 | yaMatt | I'm going to try Debian next |
| 18:28.43 | I-saac | Debian is nice. |
| 18:28.50 | I-saac | I used it for about 4 years. |
| 18:29.05 | yaMatt | yeah, I used to use it for a long time but it gets out of date quickly |
| 18:29.17 | I-saac | Everything is out of date. |
| 18:29.27 | I-saac | To preserve stability. |
| 18:29.37 | yaMatt | yeah, sadly |
| 18:29.47 | yaMatt | they released 7 recently though |
| 18:30.12 | yaMatt | Ubuntu is about the best for stability, reliablity and up to date, but seems to be run by morons |
| 18:30.13 | I-saac | I didn't know that. |
| 18:30.40 | I-saac | I wanted my ArchLinux back... :( |
| 18:31.02 | I-saac | It's stable, simple and above all it's fast. |
| 18:32.23 | yaMatt | I just don't have the time for it any more |
| 18:32.37 | yaMatt | it eats too much of my time to sort it out |
| 18:32.47 | I-saac | Yeah, I bet. :) |
| 18:33.19 | yaMatt | and at the moment it's making my laptop run far too hot |
| 18:34.20 | I-saac | Using Manjaro? |
| 18:35.02 | yaMatt | yeah |
| 18:35.39 | I-saac | I never tried it. |
| 18:36.18 | yaMatt | it's like an Ubuntu philosophy to Arch |
| 18:36.40 | I-saac | Yes, I googled it. |
| 18:36.49 | yaMatt | it's quite cool |
| 18:37.00 | I-saac | Is it pacman? |
| 18:37.06 | yaMatt | yup |
| 18:37.25 | I-saac | I'm not sure if it would work in this notebook. |
| 18:37.32 | I-saac | Many have failed to work here. |
| 18:37.37 | yaMatt | it's all Arch but the packages are delayed 30 days and there are several ISOs for different window managers |
| 18:37.42 | I-saac | Except Ubuntu and Tiny Core. |
| 18:38.00 | yaMatt | what laptop is it? |
| 18:38.08 | I-saac | It's a Portuguese brand. |
| 18:38.15 | yaMatt | ah right |
| 18:38.22 | I-saac | Insys Dnote WVC03 |
| 18:39.19 | yaMatt | yeah, don't recognise it |
| 18:39.21 | I-saac | yaMatt, do you know Walthamstow? |
| 18:39.29 | yaMatt | I know of it |
| 18:39.33 | I-saac | Do you live nearby? |
| 18:39.39 | I-saac | I'm moving there. |
| 18:40.12 | yaMatt | not really, I'm at the other end of London now but I grew up in Enfield which is just next door |
| 18:40.30 | I-saac | Alright. |
| 18:40.57 | I-saac | 15 pounds per night. |
| 18:41.04 | I-saac | It's a very good price. |
| 18:41.13 | yaMatt | wow, that's very cheap |
| 18:41.28 | I-saac | Yeah, it took us 2 weeks to find such. |
| 18:41.48 | I-saac | I hope he lets us stay for a long time. |
| 18:42.01 | I-saac | Working, studying, living, whatever. |
| 18:42.05 | yaMatt | it is very expensive to live in london, you did very well to find something that cheap |
| 18:42.15 | I-saac | I know. |
| 18:42.41 | I-saac | I hope to not waste more than 1000 pounds per month. |
| 18:43.56 | yaMatt | I have a friend who moved to Germany and has lost his job now |
| 18:44.06 | I-saac | Did he return? |
| 18:44.15 | yaMatt | don't know yet |
| 18:44.56 | I-saac | That sucks... When someone goes abroad with better expectations and everything goes wrong. |
| 18:45.26 | yaMatt | yeh, it must be very difficult for him |
| 18:45.44 | yaMatt | he's in Wimbledon so not a cheap part of London either |
| 18:47.35 | I-saac | I'm going to smoke a cigarette. brb |
| 18:47.41 | I-saac | I know it's a lame thing to do. |
| 18:48.35 | yaMatt | heheh |
| 18:56.42 | I-saac | back |
| 18:59.01 | I-saac | I miss the old days of computing when I had an interest for everything. |
| 18:59.22 | I-saac | I tried to code in Bash, Python, Perl, HTML and C. |
| 18:59.45 | I-saac | But I could only read the books and nothing more. |
| 18:59.51 | I-saac | So I didn't succeed. |
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| 20:41.12 | frangdlt | ahhh, to mobe or not to move... that's the question :) |
| 20:41.42 | frangdlt | I have to say that finding qualified linux engineers is probing more and more difficult |
| 20:42.07 | frangdlt | ie, my company can't find qualified candidates in germany even offering > 60k/year |
| 20:42.29 | frangdlt | oh, I-saac left |
| 21:04.45 | yaMatt | wow |
| 21:05.37 | yaMatt | we struggle to find qualified people too, tend to hire windows engineers to convert to the dark side ;) |
| 21:27.22 | frangdlt | really? and does that work? |
| 21:27.42 | frangdlt | we have trouble finding microsoft skilled people too |
| 21:28.01 | frangdlt | maybe we have the wrong recruiting company :P |
| 21:29.28 | frangdlt | but yes... finding anybody with more than 5-7 yrs of senior technical positions is impossible |
| 21:30.03 | frangdlt | post of them got "promoted" to mgmt or other non hands-on positions (ie, presales) |
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