IRC log for #gllug on 20140430

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08:39.28wethrinCope: I am now
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09:42.02ChoHagWhat the fuck is this? Obvious spam with a .scr in a .zip payload.
09:42.03ChoHag"Status:
09:42.05ChoHagScan finished. 0 out of 21 scanners reported malware."
09:42.14ChoHagFucking useless.
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10:17.19Copesmiles at wethrin
10:19.58wethrinHow goes?
10:20.04Copesplendid thanks
10:23.16wethrinExcellent
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11:34.07ChoHagWhy does oracle linux, which purports to be redhat with added security, obtain the key with which it verifies downloaded rpm files from an http site and not, say, use the identical file included on the installer CD?
11:36.43ChoHagOr the one it installed into /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-oracle
11:37.02ChoHagHmm actually that may be there from having been downloaded even though I said no.
11:42.48ChoHagNo. No. The installer placed that file there, and then ignored it so that oracle's "Unbreakable" platform can be MITMd.
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12:08.30dick_turpinmorsing: I can't find any Tube drivers to hurl abuse at.
12:09.36ChoHagAre they not driving the trains again?
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12:29.54dick_turpinApparently not?
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12:41.56ChoHagI can't verify the integrity of the rpm which sets up the mysql repository and its signing key.
12:43.02ChoHagOracle have extensive (too extensive) instructions for downloading and using their public key to perform verification, but don't include the signature file associated with the repository installer (which contains the public key used to very files downloaded therefrom).
12:43.51ChoHagThey do give an md5 hash of the file, but md5 is broken and it's provided over http anyway.
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15:59.37cbzhttp://www.zdnet.com/four-of-swedens-telcos-stop-storing-customer-data-after-eu-retention-directive-overthrown-7000028341/
16:26.20gregjsweden isn't in EU
16:52.43Elleogregj: sure you're not thinking of switzerland?
16:55.11Leedssweden is in the EU, but not in the Eurozone - maybe that's what he was thinking
16:59.51gregjscratches head
17:00.17gregjI got bombarded by UKIP and BNP crap yesterday and today, so I'm quite confused these days.
17:00.34Leedsready to send yourself back where you came from? :)
17:03.29gregjyou might be joking, but I'm about 5 months from applying for citizenship, and seeing all this crap on BBC and few banners on streets - I do feel rather bad. Even tho I'm not guilty of any of the things they claim 'foreigners' do/did.
17:03.53Leedsyou went over there and got a job...
17:04.43gregjI'm self employed, and pretty much every job I ever had was given to me with claim that they couldn't find anyone else to fill the position for quite a while, with similar skill set.
17:05.03gregjSo fuck UKIP and BNP neo-nazis, but it does make me feel rather bad to read and listen to all this crap.
17:06.11LeedsI would say that's what they're trying to do, but actually it isn't - they're trying to make *Brits* feel bad, so they can promise to make them feel good by kicking out all the foreigners
17:06.48gregjhence me calling them neo-nazis, cause this did happen few times in the past ...
17:06.51Leedsthey don't really care how you feel
17:07.21gregjI guess I'm taking things too seriously, but then how does one suppose to feel about this.
17:09.21Copehugs gregj
17:10.12LeedsI think I'd say that most brits aren't racist/xenophobic bastards, but they are a bit dumb and easily misled sometimes - and they're still feeling a crunch on their wallet, which makes it easy to scapegoat
17:12.36Leeds*very* odd seeing a brief video on BBC News showing Anglo-Indians complaining that immigration is too high...
17:14.21gregjprobably time to refresh my contacts in Canada then
17:14.47Leedsit does cross my mind sometimes that I'm both a migrant (aka expat) and an ethnic minority (also a religious and linguistic one, around here)
17:15.46gregjnobody told you 'brits out' yet ?
17:15.58gregjyou'd think this would be popular idea in HK
17:16.01Leedsonly once, in 9 years of being here
17:16.12Leeds(yes, it's fscking *9 years*)
17:16.15gregjit's been 9 years already ? blimey
17:16.31Leedstechnically it'll be 9 years on Monday, but what's 5 days? :)
17:16.37gregjyour chinese must be quite good by now
17:16.42Leedsnah, terrible
17:17.03gregjjust like my english then :-)
17:17.12Leedsyup, exactly
17:17.46gregj:-)
17:18.10Leedsthe only time I've had anything explicit was when I 'wandered' into a protest at my bank - there was a bit of a local scandal a few years ago with mis-selling investment stuff, particularly Lehman stuff, and some angry people had blockaded my bank to complain
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