IRC log for #gllug on 20140506

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09:02.30morsinghttp://www.wired.com/2014/04/openpower/
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09:33.42ChoHag"The factory that's being built behind me is an example of an America that is within our reach-an America that attracts the next generation of good manufacturing jobs," Obama said.
09:33.45ChoHag[Intel] eventually mothballed the $5 billion factory,
09:33.45ChoHagMuahaha
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11:29.59ChoHagMySQL: If innodb_flush_method option is set to O_DSYNC, InnoDB uses O_SYNC to open and flush the log files
11:30.18ChoHagIt doesn't use O_DSYNC, which is also a valid open() flag, because that would be sane.
11:30.40ChoHagNor does mysql name the option O_SYNC in its configuration file.
11:34.03ChoHagOf course none of that is explained in the documentation, I had to go look at open(2), and mysql doesn't have a great track record with any of the things important to databases (like logic and consistency), so I can't be sure which of O_SYNC or O_DSYNC the code actually uses.
11:34.12ChoHagAnd one is a subset of the other. Because Linux.
11:34.54ChoHagflags it SEP and moves on.
11:34.59cbzsep?
11:35.08ChoHagSomeone Else's Problem.
11:35.35ChoHagI'm here to set up linux, not tune mysql.
14:45.49gregjSEP ? Single Engine Properller
14:45.55gregjis what that means to me
14:46.45gregjso in the advent of just-eat, and similar services (which I pitched to investors in London 10 years ago, and was shot down) - i wonder if it would make sense to create business now, that is only a kitchen and delivery service. I.e. - no walk in/take out nor restaurant.
14:46.53gregjthat would probably save up some cost.
14:47.52Leedsa) I'm not sure it would save enough cost to be worth it
14:48.40Leedson the other hand, I think it's quite common here for nearby restaurants/pubs/etc with a common owner to use a single shared kitchen, either in one of the locations, or somewhere else
14:48.48gregjLeeds: so how was the bucket of lettuce ?
14:49.26Leedsgregj: she'd washed it in a colander, left the colander in the bowl, I just ate like that
14:57.47wethringregj: Investors are generally idiots. No foresight. And it might be handy to at least have a window at the restaurant to pick food up from
14:58.20wethrinCertainly if the takeaway is nearby, I'd rather walk up and pick up food than wait and pay for delivery
14:59.04gregjLeeds: :-)
15:00.11cbzit's easier to pitch an idea that someone is already doing than something new
15:00.21cbz"Food at home? What a mad idea, that would never work!"
15:01.07cbzThe thing is the likes of just-eat are predicated on a model where the income stream from the website/deliveries generally are complementary to each other or other stuff
15:01.35cbzThere are similiar things though to what you described - in terms of the websites that offer 'a home cooked meal' and the like
15:03.43gregjback then I was rather naive and when someone said no, I accepted that
15:04.16gregjbesides, their argument was that it is too early, and it wouldn't bring monies back within year - which I could agree with. Then I moved on to a voip business(es) in canada, which failed as well
15:04.22gregjoh well, story of my life, failure after failure
15:04.39cbzThats the story of most business people until their big hit ;)
15:04.54cbzOTOH the cemetaries are also filled with serial failures.
15:05.14gregjthat assumes that I keep on trying, instead of working on large per day sum contract by my self
15:05.24gregjis spoiled these days
15:06.20cbzAlso, the hyper local small chef thing also works better in countries other than the UK.
15:06.23cbzheh
16:11.46ChoHag"In countries or markets where consumers have multiple Broadband choices (like the UK) there are no congested peers," Level 3 said.
16:11.55ChoHagFirst time I've heard something good said about our internet.
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