IRC log for #gllug on 20140527

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08:51.56ChoHagBahaha
08:51.59ChoHagApple Forgets to Renew SSL Certificate, Breaking OS X Software Update
08:52.13Armandlolololol
08:52.31ArmandI see expired SSLs every day, but it's not my job to fix them :P
08:52.46ArmandSometimes I do, if I have nothing else to do.
08:56.19ArmandOf course, the client does need to purchase a renewal..
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12:09.52dick_turpinmorsing_ Wake up you little porpoise.
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13:03.50morsing_dick_turpin: It's Monday, so no
13:06.44Armand*cough* Tuesday
13:21.23dick_turpinIts Tuesday you cretin
13:21.41dick_turpinIt's
13:22.51gregjimmigrants
13:22.53gregj:p
13:25.31ArmandThat reminds me.. I must read up on the spousal visa applications.
13:26.40dick_turpinNo wonder we have a housing crisis
13:26.44dick_turpin:-P
13:27.07ArmandI rent, so...
13:29.07dick_turpinGasp! So it's you holding up house sales with your selfish renting practices.
13:29.42ArmandFuckin' ehh! :D
13:30.05ArmandI currently pay £450/pm and £0 for travel. :)
13:30.23ArmandCan't argue with a 10 minute walk to the office.
13:33.52dick_turpin£450 a month? What are you living in, a burnt out Cortina half submerged in a puddle?
13:33.59AndyMillarthat's pretty cheap
13:36.21ArmandA single room, in a shared house.. Not ideal, but it's cheap enough.
13:36.31ArmandI'll have to move when Kay comes over.
13:38.42dick_turpinYou must be 50 mile outside of London as that price would get you every other day in a wastepaper basket in inner London so my sources tell me.
13:39.04AndyMillarah, that'd explain it
13:39.42ArmandSlough
13:48.41dick_turpinBlimey you should get a discount for Slough
13:58.42cbzLots of demand in slough tbh
14:00.19ArmandYuh huh.. Quite a few IT companies here, especially hosting/server providers.
14:00.58ArmandWe're right in there, on the trading estate
14:14.08LeedsArmand: for what it's worth, I've heard bad things about the hassle - and price - of spousal visas nowadays...
14:14.35ArmandQuite aware of the hassle.. We're lucky that I'm a hoarder. :P
14:15.03ArmandThe cost isn't phenomenal, but our biggest concern was my pay level.
14:15.38LeedsI'd put that under hassle, but yeah
14:16.01ArmandThankfully, I got promoted. :D
14:16.03Leedswelcome to Farage's Britain
14:16.40ArmandIf he puts ANYTHING in place that blocks her moving here, he's asking for trouble.
14:17.37ArmandShe's a US-citizen, so I don't see that there would be any major complications.
14:18.23LeedsI suspect that'll be a lot easier than the specific case I've heard about, which was a Filipina
14:19.27ArmandYuh huh.. I hope we won't have any problems.
14:19.41Leedsgood luck :)
14:19.48ArmandThank you. :)
14:20.25ArmandQuestion.. What should an entry level, Junior SysAdmin expect to earn?
14:20.42AndyMillarwhere?
14:20.53AndyMillarwhat location, what business sector?
14:21.02ArmandSlough, Web-hosting.
14:21.04Armandlol
14:21.15AndyMillar28-25k
14:21.19AndyMillarif I had to guess
14:21.25AndyMillarerm
14:21.29AndyMillar18-25k
14:21.50ArmandOk.. Still learning the ropes.. I have little practical experience, but I'm a great learner.
14:22.37AndyMillarif you went into something more in the financial sector, I'd knock the upper end up to 35k
14:24.35AndyMillarArmand: define still learning the ropes
14:25.21ArmandI've been working as a Support tech for 14 months, so I'm reasonably familiar with CPanel servers but not so much on the SysAdmin side.
14:26.17ArmandThose 14 months focused on moving & fixing sites, password resets, database corrections, finding exploited mailboxes, etc, etc..
14:26.40AndyMillarcomfortable ssh'ing into servers? could you install apache/php/mysql and get a website up and running?
14:26.52ArmandSSH = easy.. installing services, not so much.
14:27.09ArmandThankfully, that's normally all in place with our servers.
14:27.23AndyMillaryeah - cpanel does all the magic for you
14:27.30ArmandYep. :)
14:28.03ArmandEverything is pre-installed, essentially.. We just tailor the individual servers/VDSs
14:28.33AndyMillarif you want to get into the sysadmin side of things, I'd at least read one of the basic RHCE course books and have a play
14:29.00ArmandI intend to, but we're handling most things on-the-job at the moment.
14:30.15AndyMillaryou don't actually need to do an exam (though that'll make you more qualified than anyone on my team at the moment if you do ;)) but it'll mean you've got a clue about what you're talking about ;)
14:31.10ArmandI do want to get my certs, but there's no requirement for me to do so.
14:33.15ArmandCurrently I only hold a CompTIA A+, dated July 2010. :P
14:37.33dick_turpinAndyMillar: Can I just turn up at your place with my books? http://www.cannon-linux.co.uk/tag/books/ :-)
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15:30.59ArmandAndyMillar: PM ok?
15:41.21AndyMillarArmand: fire away :)
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