IRC log for #gllug on 20140714

08:13.29spunesBooyakasha
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09:10.16ChoHagWhy the hell is C:\Windows 17.2GB?
09:22.21spunesThat must be almost 5 or even 6% of your whole disk
09:25.18ChoHagThat VM has 24GB.
09:25.19ChoHagSo no.
09:25.25ChoHagWell done for playing though.
09:27.05spunesMaybe you just need to clean up all the porn in your temporary internet files
09:27.29ChoHagWrong again. Never navigate porn sites in windows, even in a VM.
09:28.10spunesYo momma
09:29.45ChoHagWhat it mostly is is 9GB of C:\Windows\winsxs, which is apparently Microsoft's answer to dll hell, viz. store every dll ever compiled.
09:30.43ChoHagAnd for some reason a bunch of enormous font files.
09:34.33spunesMust be all those foreigners that don't use ASCII
09:41.25ChoHagI am being applied for security clearance. My references have been contact solely to ask them to account for the periods in which I was neither working nor claiming unemployment benefit.
09:41.53ChoHagIs it so hard to believe that 365 days per year of wage slavery is not actually a life requirement?
09:42.30ChoHag"I was doing fuck all, because I can, because I don't work a dead-end job like you."
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12:23.26toxboiChoHag: that quote will expedite your security clearance procedure :P
12:28.33ChoHagI know you're not supposed to, but drac is a heap of shit, so how can you run ssh with a password noninteractively?
13:00.40cbz__expect?
13:01.35ChoHagexpect is never the right answer.
13:02.17cbz__You are already asking the wrong question, so why would you assume a right answer?
13:03.00ChoHagTouche
13:03.56ChoHagContent from the website listed below is being blocked by the Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration.
13:03.59ChoHagabout:blank
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13:20.34dick_turpinmorsing: Have you ever 'done it' on a park bench?
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21:15.08neoromantiqueAlrighty
21:15.12neoromantiqueI've landed an interview.
21:15.18Armand:)
21:15.33neoromantiqueCompany will even pay for my transportation fees to get there
21:15.39ArmandAwesome!!
21:15.44ArmandWhere at ?
21:15.44neoromantique...to York
21:15.48ArmandOhh
21:15.56neoromantiqueI guess, anything works better than P'Boro
21:15.57ArmandNot so bad. :)
21:16.02ArmandYep
21:16.04neoromantiqueAt first I applied for Manchester office at Bytemark
21:16.27neoromantiquebut got offered position(interview) at York instead.
21:16.55ArmandIf you get it, will they assist in your relocation?
21:17.07neoromantiqueMost likely, yeah
21:17.11ArmandWinning!
21:17.25neoromantique*haven't talked about it yet, obviously, but signs are pointing that way*
21:17.33Armand:)
21:17.38ArmandI hope you get it
21:17.41neoromantiqueBut that's only interview
21:17.44neoromantiqueand to be completely honest
21:17.46neoromantiqueI'm completely lost
21:17.55neoromantiqueIt's Junior System Administrator role
21:18.10neoromantiqueand I only have general knowledge of general stuff, no idea what I should practice beforehand
21:18.17ArmandSame here..
21:18.22ArmandI'm learning on the job.
21:18.50ArmandMy opinion (strictly that!) is that as a Junior, they shouldn't expect that you know everything.
21:19.17ArmandYou should show a good capacity to understand what the job is and the capability to learn and adapt to the role.
21:20.16neoromantiqueHopefully, yeah
21:20.21neoromantiqueI'm really proud of my cover letter
21:20.36neoromantiqueand it really is nice that I got reply the very next day :)
21:20.53neoromantiqueI decided to move away from usual "Hi, I'm X and I want job Y"
21:21.23neoromantiqueand did some emotional writing about how I first fired up console/Apache and how in love I am with that stuff to this day
21:21.42neoromantiqueI figured it'd work nice for Junior role
21:21.51neoromantique(aka hoped that HR will understand what I mean)
21:26.03AndyMillarneoromantique: interviews (ime) are usually about how you think and not about what you know
21:26.51Armand^
21:27.14AndyMillaryou having the right thought process and being a good fit with the team is far more important than if you know /proc/sys/net and can recite all the config options and what they do :)
21:27.57ArmandYou'll certainly know your 'cat' from your dig in no time. :P
21:28.07ArmandSorry...
21:29.24AndyMillaralso, don't practice, that's counter-productive. Go in with what you know, don't bullshit, and give it your best
21:30.00AndyMillaryou'll either get the job or not, and that'll be more to do with how your attitude comes across than anything else
21:30.12AndyMillarif you don't get it, then go for the next interview :)
21:30.28neoromantiqueAndyMillar: I'm really hiped up for this one ^^
21:31.10AndyMillarneoromantique: if you're excited about the role then it'll show in the interview, and this is a good thing. employers want someone who's eager
21:31.11neoromantiqueAndyMillar: I mean brushing up my protocols/RJ45 colour order wouldn't hurt, I think
21:32.04neoromantiqueAndyMillar: I am kinda confident about my Linux/CLI knowledge, as I've been trully passionate about it since 2007, without intentionally learning it, but instead just tinkering around.
21:32.08AndyMillarT568A or T568B? :p
21:32.19neoromantiqueAnd the fact I had shitty hardware which always broke only helps
21:32.26neoromantiqueAndyMillar: I know 'em as A/B :P
21:34.20AndyMillarthen you probably know the colour ordering better than I do; the real question is why does the ordering matter, especially with gigabit ethernet which is auto mdi-x
21:35.08neoromantiqueAndyMillar: Compliance with standard even though it's obsolette? Helps everything from becoming utter mess, I guess.
21:36.40AndyMillarseems a reasonable reason, I'd also argue it makes it easier for someone else to come along and continue/repair your work and not cock up
21:37.10AndyMillarbut the why is more important than the how. The how, to some extent, can be taught :)
21:39.58neoromantiqueI'm so clueless at this point
21:40.15neoromantiqueI've never been to interview as a such
21:40.40neoromantiqueMy previous work interview was like: Yo, can you code $lang? ; me: Yeah, sure.
21:40.44neoromantiqueThat's it
21:41.09neoromantiqueThis will likely be way more serious
21:41.30neoromantiqueand I've got so many questions and so few answers, and overall am quite surprised that I even got reply
21:41.41AndyMillarjust go in and be you, that's the best you can do :)
21:42.41neoromantiqueI guess
21:43.07neoromantique...Now to get NI number, lol.
21:51.20ArmandFU696969CK
21:51.27ArmandThere ya go! :D
21:51.31neoromantiquelol
21:51.35neoromantique80085
21:51.39ArmandFYI: Don't! use that :P
21:52.18neoromantiqueNah, need to go to Job Centre and get it sorted
21:52.22ArmandIndeedy.
21:52.24neoromantiqueWasn't in UK when I was 16
21:52.59ArmandI didn't properly get out of the country until I was... Errrmmmm.... 32?
21:53.15neoromantiqueM, I didn't get _IN_ the country then ;p
21:53.33neoromantiqueLast year I've traveled across good chunk of Europe for less than £200 %)
21:53.43neoromantiquenot even last year
21:53.45neoromantiqueat this NY
21:54.07neoromantiqueleft  in dec. 2013, got back in early February ;p
21:54.29neoromantiqueAlmost shat myself when I realized I have no right to enter country at the time, and I might be left at France.
21:54.45neoromantique(I was 17, so I had to be accompanied by an adult with paperwork)
22:02.31neoromantiqueArmand: By the way, how old are you?
22:02.38neoromantiqueArmand: You sure seemed younger to me
22:05.43Armand35
22:06.36neoromantiqueWell, you seemed younger :)
22:07.02neoromantiqueI guess then, my ambitions and emotions right now look kinda childish, heh
23:23.14Armandneoromantique: Not at all.

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