IRC log for #gllug on 20140812

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10:16.26neoromantiqueHi Armand
10:16.44ChoHagHmm. uname -porn
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10:17.37ArmandHi, neoromantique .o/
10:17.44ChoHaguname -porn kills irssi :(
10:17.59ChoHagWhich is not a particularly good advert for freebsd.
10:18.43neoromantiqueThanks for that, Even though I don't often need more than uname -r
10:18.53neoromantiquefrom now on, I will only be using -porn
10:19.21ChoHagIt's a handy way to remember the useful options to uname.
10:19.31neoromantiquedefinitely handy
10:19.47Armand"Charizard 3.8.0-23-generic x86_64 GNU/Linux"
10:19.56neoromantiqueInTreat 3.15.7-1-MANJARO unknown GNU/Linux
10:20.14neoromantiquefor some reason it doesn't see my arch :C
10:20.19Armandlol
10:22.35ChoHagI can't do it. It kills irssi :(
10:22.43ArmandDerp!
10:22.54ChoHagbut: FreeBSD nettle.monnsta.net 10.0-RELEASE-p7 amd64
10:25.33ChoHagOoh security theatre.
10:26.07ChoHagA man with a very formal-looking pair of shoulder pads confirmed that my highly forgable pass is around my neck.
10:30.38neoromantiquewait what
10:30.55neoromantiquewriting "uname -porn" makes irssi crash?
10:31.02neoromantiqueSo much for #stability
10:31.11ChoHagIt's something to do with /exec & threading.
10:31.40ChoHagSince I almost never use /exec I'll be fine until I can get around to it.
10:32.20ChoHagNobody in #irssi is interested in my core file.
10:33.53neoromantiqueah, you mean /exec uname -porn?
10:34.41wethrin$ uname -porn
10:34.41wethrinuname: illegal option -- o
10:34.42wethrinusage: uname [-aimnprsv]
10:34.54wethrinpah
10:36.45neoromantiquewethrin: o_O; busybox?
10:38.17ChoHagWhat ever crappy system you're on can't get real pron.
10:38.45ChoHagAmusingly the option you lack is 'a synonym for the -s option, for compatibility with other systems'
10:39.13ChoHagHey! Let's break compatibility in the tool used to identify different systems!
10:39.15ChoHagWhat could go wrong?
10:39.56neoromantiqueChoHag: There aren't enough operating systems in the market, let's make completely new one, with $killer_Feature; BlackJack and whores!
10:40.12neoromantiqueNow windows will surely die
10:41.13ChoHagActually I think that's almost true.
10:41.50ChoHagWindows won by taking over a monoculture. If there were no monoculture, windows (nor anything else) could (as easily) win.
10:43.39neoromantiqueChoHag: Right now, it is silly to assume that windows is going anywhere, and even more so, to think that brand new OS is a good strat to shift windows
10:44.01neoromantiquein long term, it is better to strenghten Linux positions, as it'll create more diverse and competetive market
10:44.17ChoHagWindows is in its death throes because the platform it monopolised is in its death throes.
10:46.47neoromantiqueChoHag: I hear that for past 7 years.
10:47.10ChoHagYes?
10:47.25ChoHag7 years is not a long time.
10:49.51ChoHagThe industry has relegated Windows to the role of running legacy applications, just as it did with unix.
10:49.59ChoHagReality will catch up in its own due course.
10:50.18ChoHagJust as it did with unix.
10:51.38ChoHagThen with any luck some upstart uni student will create joedows (as a hobby - nothing big and professional like wine) and we'll be able to play the game all over again.
10:52.01ChoHagBut with a better GUI.
11:02.32Armandeffing routing tables. >_<
11:11.34ChoHagShoulder pad man is back. This time he has a friend.
11:11.41ChoHagTwo friends.
11:12.10ChoHagWith what looked like a plan of the office in which there are no permanent desks.
11:16.28wethrinneoromantique: No, FreeBSD 8
11:20.04neoromantiqueok, I need to do some work now
11:20.27neoromantiquegotta make website to get few hundred quid, so I can buy myself some beer while in Germany
11:21.02Armand\o/
11:21.05ArmandBeer!
11:21.24neoromantiqueyeah
11:21.27neoromantiquebeeeerghh
11:21.38neoromantiqueI actually seen few Beck's in fridge
11:21.50neoromantiquebut i'd much rather get some cash and buy this awesoomeee Warsteiner
11:22.08ArmandI fancy some baileys and banana nectar
11:22.36LeedsI have Asahi in the fridge
11:23.25neoromantiqueBaileys? ew
11:23.29Armand¬_¬
11:23.38neoromantiqueLeeds: There's some Chinese beer over there, I didn't risk getting it though
11:23.40Armandslaps neoromantique with some taste
11:23.48neoromantiqueI did however try thai one
11:24.23neoromantiqueI've had some Baileys at NY party
11:24.30neoromantiqueit's basically chocolate syrup
11:24.46ArmandO_o
11:25.13ArmandIt's whiskey & cream
11:25.21LeedsTsingtao is perfectly decent lager
11:25.34neoromantiqueLeeds: I believe it is that one
11:26.12Leedsnice and cheap here... made in China, of course, but the company was started by Germans, using imported German equipment
11:26.31Leedswas the first full-scale brewery in China, I believe
11:27.22Leedsbut I'm quite into Japanese beer - they make it really dry and sharp, has quite a different taste from normal European stuff
11:27.28neoromantiqueLeeds: it's 0.89€ a bottle ther
11:27.30neoromantiquee
11:27.33ArmandI want some sake.
11:27.42neoromantiqueand thinking about it, I might get some this evening
11:29.47LeedsI've got a big 640ml bottle of Asahi, and a smaller bottle of a Yorkshire microbrew, which I bought in a local beer shop
11:30.11gregjlast time you schlepped over , that is ?
11:30.22LeedsI was mostly just impressed that western Hong Kong has a local beer shop that sells Yorkshire microbrew :)
11:30.24gregj(from)
11:30.31gregjoh
11:30.33gregjnice
11:31.24Leedslast time I was in the UK was Easter (passover)
11:31.35Leedsnext time will be late September
11:32.12gregjhopefully you'll be in London so we can catchup
11:32.21gregjI haven't seen you in like 10 years
11:33.39Leedsyeah... I'll be in London, at least for a couple of days
11:36.27LeedsI don't bring beer back from the UK... I normally bring shower gel, but I've actually found the brand I like here, in a supermarket which happens to be in the same building as the local beer shop
11:57.31ChoHagWhat idiot put close-tab right next to quit-application?
11:59.05gregjprobably someone from google
12:00.44neoromantiqueI was thinking
12:00.49neoromantiquewhy the fuck does XAMPP install takes so long
12:00.57neoromantiqueInstalled size: 650mb.
12:00.59neoromantiquedafuq?
12:02.03ChoHagHah!
12:02.05ChoHagHave fun with that.
12:05.59neoromantiqueChoHag: I need to do some php dev, I figured xampp will be the fastest way
12:06.52neoromantiqueXAMPP:  Another web server is already running.
12:06.54neoromantiqueffs
12:07.04ChoHagApparently not.
12:07.20neoromantiquedafuq
12:07.26neoromantiqueChanged port to 100% unused, same shiet
12:08.04ChoHagRemove bullshit.
12:08.06ChoHagRetry.
12:09.59neoromantiqueaka just setup nginx/php5/
12:10.07neoromantiquewithout xampp bullshit?
12:10.16ChoHagshrugs
12:10.21ChoHagAny bullshit present, remove it.
12:10.28neoromantiqueUh oh
12:10.34ChoHagOr don't do php development. Either way works.
12:10.38neoromantique# rm -rf /*
12:10.48neoromantiqueChoHag: I, too hate it
12:10.48ChoHagThat works also.
12:10.51neoromantiquebut I need some moneys
12:10.53neoromantiqueso
12:11.01ChoHagAh yes I know that feeling.
12:11.03neoromantiqueSo I have to :(
12:11.20ChoHagSee: jobs passim.
12:11.28neoromantique"passim."?
12:11.35ChoHagIn that case stop caring and have your $idiot_employer provide you with a development environment.
12:11.47neoromantiqueChoHag: Freelance.
12:12.20neoromantiqueI'll probably just do the eidts on server, w/o local environment
12:12.20ChoHag<repeat/>
12:12.36neoromantiqueI like living on the edge
12:13.22ChoHagDoes a 650MB web server count as on the edge?
12:13.54neoromantiqueChoHag: Editing in Live environment sure does
12:14.04neoromantiquebut hey, I can't get any more unemployed that I currently am, can I?
12:15.47ChoHagI'm sure that is possible.
12:15.54ChoHagDo you have any dependents?
12:16.36neoromantiqueChoHag: No contract, no nothing
12:17.51neoromantiqueChoHag: Fast job, money via paypal
12:29.41ChoHagApparently providing an easy service to China is a priority for the Home Office.
12:30.00ChoHagBut not to the extent of answering phones or providing any other sort of support outside of UK working hours.
12:35.36neoromantiqueAren't the call centres in India anyway?
12:42.35ChoHagI can't see the government outsourcing the home office to India.
12:42.50ChoHagThis place is officially xenophobic.
12:42.52ChoHagOfficially.
12:43.25ChoHagExcept to the Chinese, because that's apparently where the money is.
12:43.43ChoHags/bec.*t's/so/
12:43.56ChoHagMeh.
12:44.00ChoHags/because/so/
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14:22.58dick_turpinwethrin: What the hell have you done with morsing? This is starting to rattle me now. I have questions backing up for him.
14:24.37Armanddick_turpin: Did you check under the stairs?
14:38.45dick_turpinArmand: he's not with the gimp
14:41.59ArmandDown the back of the sofa?
14:42.29dick_turpinI hope not, that's where I keep my loot!
14:58.12wethrindick_turpin: He's been K-lined from the IRC server
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15:17.24ArmandLast seen  : Apr 10 21:10:01 2014 (17 weeks, 4 days, 20:06:58 ago) ??!
15:32.42gregj"notification centre" or "notifications centre" ?
15:32.55gregjnaming shit in english - question
15:33.48gregja place where notifications are displayed, I guess the latter then - but just asking in case someone knows better
15:35.33wethrinNotification Centre is usual
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15:56.31ArmandI almost miss morsing asking me about the ex that I haven't seen in 3 years.. :P
16:14.13AndyMillarwhat was her name?
16:14.22AndyMillarAmanda?
16:17.51ArmandNot even close
16:17.54AndyMillarAmy?
16:18.00AndyMillarVeronica?
16:18.02ArmandNope
16:18.04ArmandCloser
16:18.40AndyMillarVictoria?
16:18.44ArmandYup
16:18.50AndyMillarexcellent - how is she?
16:19.57ArmandNo idea.. Fucks not given.
16:25.23AndyMillar:p
16:25.34AndyMillarI'll keep asking for you :)
16:26.09LeedsI do wonder who morsing pissed off enough to get k-lined
16:26.43AndyMillarperhaps Victoria heard about morsing
16:50.10ArmandYeah, being stalked by morsing would piss me off. :P
16:59.50ChoHagWell at least it's a fan not a hard drive...
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19:16.47neoromantiqueArmand: How's Victoria?
19:17.01neoromantiqueI knew one Victoria, and she was nice for a while
19:17.15neoromantiqueand not so nice after a while
19:17.24Armandwaits for the obvious hilarity to subside....
19:17.31ArmandOhh, done!
19:17.42neoromantiqueLuckily I moved to UK with words "Sure, I will keep in touch"
19:17.52neoromantiqueAnd now she's somewhere in Netherlands
19:17.54neoromantiqueso yeah
19:19.14neoromantique<PROTECTED>
19:19.36ArmandBeer! \o/
19:19.41neoromantique"Tsigntao"
19:39.21neoromantiqueLeeds lied.
19:39.33neoromantiqueIt is pretty bad
19:39.40neoromantiqueI'd say 3/10
19:39.49neoromantiqueWorth noting, though, that I'm not really into Lagers
19:40.29ArmandYou can't really take someone else's advice on food and drink.. lol
19:41.13neoromantiqueYeah
19:41.15neoromantiqueI mean
19:41.19neoromantiqueit's 0.99€
19:41.24neoromantiqueso not much of a loss
19:41.28neoromantique(I bought two of 'em though)
19:41.43neoromantiqueI'll have to go and get some proper Warsteiner tomorrow
19:42.25ArmandI might go sake hunting this weekend.
19:44.15neoromantiquesake hunting?
19:44.23ArmandSake!!
19:44.38neoromantiquewhat's that?
19:44.52Armand"rice wine"
19:45.05Armandhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sake
19:46.07neoromantiquepardon my french
19:46.36ArmandO_o
19:59.48ChoHagApparently the internet got a bit bloated today and farted out a few Ciscos.
20:01.01ArmandYes. ¬_¬
20:01.07ArmandIncluding two of ours.
20:01.30Armand"512wwhhhaaaaaa" *dies*
20:03.49ChoHagI have this mental image like a bubble bursting on a thick gooey pool of something nasty.
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