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| 13:04.42 | ChoHag | Who the fuck willingly puts their balls in a vice? |
| 13:05.22 | ChoHag | The mere admins have access to the web and app servers, but only the (known throughout the business to be shit) MSP has any access to the database server. |
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| 13:23.28 | dick_turpin | wethrin: You got snow up there in the back of beyond yet? |
| 13:24.28 | Leeds | dick_turpin: I'm considering getting out something with long sleeves... maybe in another week or two |
| 13:26.47 | dick_turpin | Does it get cold in Hong Kong? |
| 13:27.24 | Leeds | depends on how you define cold :) |
| 13:27.54 | Leeds | when it goes below about 20 degrees - which might happen next week - locals tend to bring out their ski jackets, fur-lined boots, etc. |
| 13:27.59 | dick_turpin | So anything over 9C is a fecking heatwave in the UK |
| 13:28.28 | Leeds | there are a few nights in the year which are cold enough to get a touch of frost on hilltops out of the city |
| 13:30.12 | dick_turpin | Well you live and learn. I was always under the impression it was generally warm all year round there. |
| 13:31.47 | Leeds | yeah, Jan/Feb can be a bit nippy - but autumn and spring can be *lovely* - dry, clear, sunny, warm but not too hot |
| 13:33.53 | Leeds | which is why we're going to Oz in Feb to sit on the beach :D |
| 13:34.14 | dick_turpin | I'm glad we had extra radiators fitted at Castle Cannon last year. |
| 13:35.33 | Leeds | I think we have a heater somewhere... |
| 13:36.43 | Leeds | but I've got the aircon on right now :) |
| 13:39.12 | dick_turpin | My heart bleeds. :-P |
| 13:50.09 | Leeds | it's hard, but someone has to do it |
| 13:51.01 | dick_turpin | LOL |
| 13:51.42 | dick_turpin | I admire the way you grin and bare it with such fortitude |
| 13:56.35 | Leeds | also, we're going to Japan for a weekend in January - where it'll be a little colder than here... mostly just because Japan is cool! |
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| 14:03.12 | dick_turpin | I'd love to go to Japan, sadly it will never happen. |
| 14:03.47 | morsing | dick_turpin: Why not? |
| 14:03.51 | morsing | Japan is awesome |
| 14:03.52 | Leeds | it's a long way from the UK... |
| 14:04.03 | morsing | dick_turpin: Ask Sharon to take you |
| 14:04.24 | Leeds | this trip in Jan will be the 5th year in a row that we've been - we're lucky that both flights and Yen have been getting cheaper and cheaper |
| 14:06.05 | Leeds | the Yen has fallen by almost exactly 1/3 since the first time we went - makes quite a big difference |
| 14:17.30 | dick_turpin | morsing: Sharon often takes me |
| 14:22.24 | Armand | ChoHag: Windows Admins. |
| 14:23.18 | Armand | Also, ChoHag... "The mere admins have access to the web and app servers, but only the (known throughout the business to be shit) MSP has any access to the database server." Who? |
| 14:28.22 | ChoHag | Attenda. |
| 14:30.54 | ChoHag | Thoroughly incompetent. |
| 14:41.18 | Armand | General IT services ? |
| 14:41.48 | ChoHag | Web hosting. |
| 14:42.11 | ChoHag | But with added job security (theirs). |
| 14:57.22 | Armand | lol |
| 14:57.41 | Armand | You know I work for a hosting provider, right ? |
| 14:58.01 | ChoHag | Yes. |
| 14:59.57 | ChoHag | Hmm. Asking 'please create database foo for user bar because I needed it yesterday' is met with a request to fill in an 8 page form. |
| 15:00.06 | Armand | What ? |
| 15:00.10 | Armand | O_o |
| 15:00.14 | ChoHag | Indeed. |
| 15:00.48 | ChoHag | docx |
| 15:01.34 | Armand | create database data_db; |
| 15:01.34 | Armand | CREATE USER 'user_db'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'pass'; |
| 15:01.34 | Armand | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON data_db.* TO 'user_db'@'localhost'; |
| 15:01.34 | Armand | FLUSH PRIVILEGES; |
| 15:01.43 | Armand | Wow... SO difficult!! ¬_¬ |
| 15:02.04 | ChoHag | One of the questions is asking which servers should have access to it, from a given list. |
| 15:02.11 | ChoHag | The list does not include the servers which require access. |
| 15:02.26 | Armand | O_o |
| 15:03.07 | Armand | We don't use forms, except initial ticket submission via the client account.. |
| 15:03.25 | Armand | BUT! you can just send in an e-mail with all the essentials. |
| 15:03.32 | Armand | Simples. |
| 15:05.13 | ChoHag | They want my name and phone number to provide them with a password. |
| 15:05.18 | ChoHag | This is hilarious. |
| 15:18.45 | ChoHag | Forms are a great way to mask ineptitude. |
| 15:19.30 | ChoHag | It was so hard to write that email without filling it full of snark. |
| 15:22.34 | Armand | Snark it up! |
| 15:23.31 | ChoHag | The fact that I didn't at great personal cost will be used for brownie points with $boss. |
| 15:34.18 | ChoHag | Mind you, this is what we're working with on our end: |
| 15:34.24 | ChoHag | Hi Ivan, |
| 15:34.24 | ChoHag | The stage tomcat ifa10web86:/opt/tomcat-agraadmin/ is not working. Could you please fix this. |
| 15:34.26 | ChoHag | Thanks. |
| 15:51.41 | Armand | tom.... cat... |
| 15:59.47 | ChoHag | I try not to think about that. |
| 16:01.21 | ChoHag | It's actually quite a nice way of ensuring java remains embedded within organisations that could be vastly improved by instead hiring real programmers. |
| 16:01.31 | ChoHag | So it's got that going for it. |
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| 16:01.43 | gw280 | hrm. hello. |
| 16:01.49 | Armand | lol |
| 16:02.14 | Armand | We don't have many clients using tomcat, thankfully.. |
| 16:02.20 | Armand | Also, Plesk. >_< |
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| 19:45.09 | Bernte | Armand, the BeBox is left over - do you want it? It looks nice, but I can't promise that it still works. |
| 19:45.24 | Armand | For sure. :D |
| 19:47.10 | Armand | When are you looking at heading down? |
| 19:47.42 | Bernte | I am located in Lewisham - you should be able to pick it up when you have time. |
| 19:48.35 | Armand | That would be the weekend.. I work 11am to 8pm during the week and I don't have a car. |
| 19:49.02 | Bernte | Weekend is fine ... |
| 19:49.14 | Armand | What's your nearest train station ? |
| 19:49.25 | Bernte | Lewisham |
| 19:49.36 | Bernte | 5-10 min walk from there. |
| 19:59.49 | gw280 | people still use beboxes? |
| 20:58.17 | Armand | Bernte: Do you have any pictures of this one? |
| 21:16.57 | Bernte | Armand, it is a standard one ... don't have a camera here, but they all looked similar. |
| 21:18.55 | Armand | Coolies.. Blue box, right? |
| 21:26.41 | Bernte | Yes - has a 3.5 disk drive and a CD-ROM in front ... |
| 21:27.27 | Bernte | and tons of hackable connectors in the back ... ;-) |
| 21:27.52 | Armand | LAN port ? |
| 21:28.11 | Bernte | Has a 10 MBit twisted pair and coax card. |
| 21:28.19 | Armand | Shweet! |
| 21:29.09 | Bernte | The only thing I am not sure is if you can get it to run - haven't switched it on for ages. But last time I used it, it worked ... |
| 21:29.54 | Armand | Looks like a standard AT/ATX power supply with a 3-pin D-plug. |
| 21:30.14 | Bernte | Yea - they used standard stuff ... |
| 21:30.28 | Armand | Even a VGA port. ^_^ |
| 21:30.35 | Armand | D-Sub |
| 21:31.48 | Bernte | I think IR ports, Midi ports, 4 serial, joystick ... |
| 21:33.18 | Armand | Should be fun getting that fired up in the office, next to an i5 3GHz with Gb LAN. :P |
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